Tuesday, August 28, 2007

'Big Brother 8' - Live Feeds Through the Night Into Tuesday


Nah, Evel Dick isn't burning anyone with a cigarette. And, I'm pretty sure he isn't a gang member. He's outside talking to Daniele in the wee hours. Here are the late night happenings from that Big Brother House of Misfit Toys:
  • The houseguests watched a private viewing of the Daniele/Amber appearance on The Power of Ten, but aren't allowed to talk about it until Tuesday night. I guess the show wanted to air it, but doesn't want live feed watchers knowing the outcome of the game show.
  • Amber thinks that Jessica nominated her to show Dick and Daniele they're not together while Zach was nominated to make him think they're not with Daniele and Dick. My head hurts at her logic.
  • Dick told Jessica that Zach told him that she turned on him.
  • When Eric said the DR told him his Abercrombie and Fitch necklace looked gay and he shouldn't wear it, the BB voice said, "Eric, stop that!"
  • Dick read into Julie Chen's comments to him that he may not be looking good on the show.
  • The houseguests all think this is a boring week for both them and the feeds watchers.
  • BB called each HG into the diary room tonight and most just wanted to nap.
  • Daniele told Eric he should say he swore on Amber's daughter that he won't keep her in the house.
  • Eric told Dick that Zach wanted them to backdoor him (Dick) this week.
  • Daniele and Dick had a pleasant talk about the game, Daniele's plan to go to DisneyWorld and more.

54 comments:

barbwire said...

maybe Jameka is a camp counselor - so i vote that they paint garden gnomes, & then she can help Amber paint the best gnome !!

I'm sorry, but Eric & Jessica's romance would be so cute... if they were 15 !! these are 2 adults ??

they are all so bumbling & stupid, i hope they all vote each other out accidentally, & no one is left in the running for the money !! that's my "vision"

amber has been reading the bible, i wonder if she's gotten to the part where God loves every one the same ?? probably not yet

Anonymous said...

Good morning,
I must say that I have to read what went on in the house while I was sleeping. Looks like I didn't miss much. Of course I can't understand how Jackie knows what's going on every minute. Doesn't she ever sleep? Here's to hoping Amber goes packing this week. She doesn't even realize that America dislikes her... a lot like BB6 when Maggie and Co (aka The Nerd Herd)when they thought all of America loved them.

Anonymous said...

(posted this on the last entry, but in case anyone misses it, am reposting here...sorry it's long)

was checking out Dani's live journal. There is a picture of her and Dick and then someone had commented about her (dani's) dad
being a cool guy. Dani responded

"thank you. My dads def. one of my BFFFFF :]"

That post was in Dec. of 2004. Then someone commented that she and her dad should go on a tv show together and she said "haha, what kind of tv show?"
Of course, those were from 2004, but someone else has found the site and recently posted in reply to that post "how about bb8"? There are several current posts after that, then it goes back to the 2004 posts.
Someone asked her if she and her dad get along and her reply was

"yeah we always hang out. my dads one of my best friends."

Now I wonder if everything between her and Dick are for game. I know that in some of her posts, she does down her family, like everyone does, saying stuff about how weird their families are, or how stupid, how they make you so mad and so on. So maybe the "rift" between them isn't all that serious like they are making out on the show. After all, the other 2 "surprise" guest couples problems weren't all that much either, Carol/Jess and Dustin/Joe.
OMG...she is dressed up as Alice in Wonderland in Oct. of 2004. Maybe the theme this year being Alice In Wonderland has to do with Danielle!
Also read on Dick's journal entries where someone wrote that Dick was friends with Erika Landon. Was that "Erika" from last year? And Jen knew Boogie? Does everyone on the show this year know someone from past bb shows?
Mind is in "Detective" mode I guess this morning, lol, but I'm seeing a lot of ???'s here.
LOL, maybe that explains Dick & Dani still being there. Not that I'm complaining. I was rooting for the two of them.
bbfan

Anonymous said...

Good Morning and Thank you Jackie, Just like a poster commented earlier, I find myself much too involved in BB and having a let down when it is over. I used to think it was the people on the show that were drawing me in, but I don't now. I really don't, after this season. But, the show itself is fasinating to me. Watching and listening. Even watching boring people who seem to lack the creative gene. Part of the let down, and to a certain degree some anger, I get is because it isn't done better. For all the fan time put in, 'they' (producers, hgs, whomever) ought to be giving us a better product. I keep coming up with theories, but no, the hgs just keep prodding along in their own fashion...nothing new or exciting, nothing brilliant. Just same old same old. And I keep hanging on every redundant word. I also like it when CSPAN sets up a camera at a venue and just lets it run. One time they did that at the top of an escalator at some event and I was glued to TV for hours. Obviously, it says more about me than the show. Maybe I am just waiting through the non-action for someone to get their evening dress stuck in the escalator or for the high and might to fall. Not sure I even want an answer. I just keep watching. Thanks Jackie, for addingt he commentary to the camera image. Sue

Anonymous said...

Jackie I must say that I feel the same way in that whenever Amber speaks I get this headache say to to myself "WHAT". She doesn't make any sense when she speaks.

I hope she goes this week. Get Zach next week.

Anonymous said...

I saw no Boogie this am when I logged on. Thank you Jackie. He is such a publicity hound, he was hijacking your board just to get watched. BB usually changes occupations to make them sound better than they are, so maybe Jameka is an aid in the counseling office at her school. I am now a Jessica fan after hearing how hard she works outside of the house. First time I have someone to be 'for' and not 'against' in this house. Jess saying she worked multiple jobs did it and outweighed how much the cutsie routine grates on me. They should rename Daniele "Mikey' 'cause she hates everything. Sue

Anonymous said...

What's with all the hate on Jameka's education? I am 39 and have two masters and i just found out what mensa meant four years ago and i am by no means sheltered or dumb. It seems to me that she is the only one in the house with any kind of degree except maybe Zach. Maybe the only HG period. I did hear her say that she has a Masters in Guidance counseling and getting a maters in anything is nothing to take lightly.

I think Jameka's problem is she is playing too nice and she is concerned how she will be portrayed (Lord knows we don't need another Omarosa), but maybe that will change now that she has planted seeds of doubt in Jessica's head about eric.

Chauncey

Anonymous said...

Hey Chauncey, Jen had two degrees one for Child care and I forgot what the other was for.
It's not that we're all getting down on Jameka's education. It's that we're all thinking if she has a degree in counseling, how can she not see how Amber is delusional and why does she encourage her delusions. I'm the one who started it. I just found out that she's a career counselor and not a mental health counselor but she's obviously not very good at that either. She keeps encouraging Amber to become a model; when anyone with half a brain can tell you that Amber is a. too old to be a model. b. not skinny enough to be a model. c. not exotic looking enough to be a model. Why does Jameka encourage her in this when she obviously has no chance of succeeding. Jameeka needs to encourage her to pursue her nursing career. It's a worthy profession with good benefits for both Amber and her daughter. It's one of the things that Amber wants according to her, to do more than anything. It's also something that is within her reach. By encouraging Amber to pursue modeling she's not building her up; Amber is going to be so hurt when she gets out of that house and hears how people have made fun of her for wanting to be a model.


Kay

Anonymous said...

Just a few comments...

Barbwire - nowhere in the Bible does it say God loves every one the same - remember the lambs and the goats. Some people go to heaven, some people are eternally damned. That ain't equal love!

I think it is interesting that everyone is jumping on Jameka's education. Frankly, I have a Ph.D. an MS and two bachelors degrees, but that doesn't make me omniscient!!! I teach at a university and my students, even the doctoral students can be very naive at times. Again, I think it is the 12 year olds on this board that are tossing around the hatred of Jameeka; anyone older (like, unfortunately, myself) is much more prone to understanding that we all have limited knowledge and understanding.

That said - Amber is an idiot!!!

...just kidding...but she is clearly delusional. Although, speaking as an educator, that is verrrry common. The entire educational system has been turned into a self esteem factory where it the education is no more important than how the students feel about themselves and their education. Everyone is smart, unique, beautiful, tough. All viewpoints are equally valid. Amber is a product of her generation and should be a little pitied. (And, yes, I admit that I can't help but laugh at her myself.)

God bless God.


Joe in NY

Anonymous said...

I forgot to say that she's really really going to be hurt when she realizes that Jameka lied to her. Even if Jameka honestly truly thinks Amber could be a model, Amber's gonna feel like she was playing her for a fool and making fun of her behind her back. And I'm sorry but that makes Jameka sorry in my book.

kay

Anonymous said...

I would suspect that as a guidance counsellor, they are supposed to be encouraging, so Jameka is probably just trying to make Amber feel like she can accomplish what she puts her mind to. We all know Amber doesn't have a mind...so there you go.

I agree however with Kay that she should be encouraging her in her love of nursing, cause a model candidate she ain't!

Anonymous said...

Kay - I'm on your side. I understand that Jameka may not have a lot of pop culture knowledge or common sense, but to encourage Amber to be a cover model is just harmful to Amber. There is absolutely NO WAY she has the physical qualifications to do that. She should encourage her to do something else like the nursing thing.

I think Daniele would make a great model. She's thin, pretty, whiny, bitchy and controlling. She's got the total package...looks, body & attitude! Somebody call Tyra Banks!!

Anonymous said...

Once BB ends, we all have withdrawal, but Survivor will start shortly after! Not as time consuming as BB for Jackie either.

Wonder if A or D won anything on Power of 10? Can not wait!

Still think Eric is hiding his real sexuality...something is so off about him.

Anonymous said...

So, what does everyone think of the new Fox show American Band? There's an article on E! News about the judges & host.

I have mixed feelings...

Anonymous said...

Oh,I so agree,delee,I think Eric may not really understand himself where he stands on the whole sexuality thing. Sometimes it takes years to even admit to the possiblity of liking the same sex and he may be confused. He certainly doesn't act like a 27 year old who has been in "serious" relationship,the way he acts with Jessica. Zach even acts more mature than Eric in that area. I think Eric is a lot of smoke and mirrors and he's all talk and not much action.Not that I want to see that happen,mind you....I think Eric is pukey,not my type at all.First I'd have to gag him....lol.

Anonymous said...

Orkmommy, I love rock, so I'll probably give American Band a try. Whether I'll stick around, who knows? I watch Idol, though, and that's mostly not my kind of music at all.

Besides, I've always thought that Johnny Rzeznik is pretty attractive!

Sky

Anonymous said...

barbwire said "I'm sorry, but Eric & Jessica's romance would be so cute... if they were 15 !! these are 2 adults ??"

Maybe that's why all the 15 year old girls keep voting for things like woobies and kisses from Eric to Jess. CBS knows their audience (or the audience their advertisers want.) I wonder if Eric does.

Anonymous said...

Oops,that sounded kind of kinky...not gag him in THAT way.....LOL. By the way,my Booger jump is gone too! Whatever you did,Jackie,thank you...a thousand thanks!!

Anonymous said...

About Eric: and to quote a song lyric, 'its in his kiss'. He is fond of Jessica, probably very much wants to believe there is affection for and from her. But,body language is screaming that it just ain't so!. There are no involuntary touches, or saying their names in 'that way' that gives true feelings away. They are both, imo, making the most of a bad situation. I hope they don't come out of the whole experience hating each other.

Joe & Kay: both made great posts that touched me.

About Jameka: I just read here at Jackie's that Jameka is a career counselor. It would depend on the age level and sex of her students, but a big deal is made to teen girls about their building self esteem. A laughable concept in some ways, since a child needs to do that in more ways than just having someone at school say the words. But, that might explain Jameka going so far telling Amber about being a model. Not saying it is what she should be saying, but maybe she was using some of her training and forgetting to listen to herself while she talked. She was basically telling Amber that A could be anything she wanted to be and to go for her dreams. That is not the right route to take with an adult woman who has a tenuous hold on reality, but it is probably in the guidance counselor book on how to talk to teens.

About Amber: If she had a drug/alcohol problem in the recent past (as has been said) then being clean in the house would really be sobering. Pun or not, I think the term fits. If we are seeing the real Amber, then I can understand why she would try to self medicate in the real world and is using her prayers as she would have used drugs in the past. Being locked up in BB is either the best thing that could happen to her (if it gets her help before she goes back to old ways) or the worst (hearing her reviews).

More about Amber and BB: I was horrified to realize that some of Amber's 'praying' on Sunday's show was done sitting in the DR chair and obviously done on demand from BB to show us how you pray.

Mensa: I love smart people soooo much. I agree with, Joe, that getting advanced degrees doesn't give a person an edge in social skills. I think Zach shows us that. I don't know how far he has gone in school, but I see him as intelligent and logical. I have enjoyed his humor from the beginning but lately am wondering if the joke was on me and that he wasn't trying to be funny. I wonder how the hgs would line up in an IQ test?

They are all a mixture of sad and funny. I laugh and then apologize (bless me for I have sinned) and then laugh some more. I think God appreciates a good sense of humor.

Sue

Anonymous said...

Anyone have a clue who they are going to evict? I'm crosssing my fingers it's Amber!

Anonymous said...

I really believe that Jameka thinks that Amber can be whatever she wants to be including a nurse, she has encouraged her in that also. I believe she is sincere in her conversations with Amber and has not lied to her. Besides, strategy wise, why should she say something that might put a wedge between them.

Amber does have issues and she should have never been on this show. It is pretty sad how everyone knows she has problems yet she still gets dogpiled on. It is not funny, it is just sad and CBS is part of the dogpile.

Chauncey

Anonymous said...

I think that Eric has a girlfriend that he is trying not to piss off or that he really does not have any game when it comes to women, because Jess has done almost everything possible to let him know that it is okay "go for it" yet he still holds back. Jess is an attractive woman that a majority of men would love to recieve the kind of attention from her that she gives to Eric. I don't think that he is gay (not that there is something wrong with that....lol).

Chauncey

Anonymous said...

Chauncy - I agree that CBS does quite a job of portraying Amber in a bad light, but she acts the same way in the live feeds. The producers are only giving us a "best of" snapshot during the shows.

Amber put herself in that situation and the reason we watch these shows is so we can watch idiots. At least that's why I watch the show. I don't look at reality shows as a true showing of people in general. If they didn't want to be ripped on, dumped on, talked about and made fun of then they should stay at home and watch other idiots like the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

On BB changing people's job descriptions to make them sound more interesting:
How about the fact that almost everyone that has been on the show is an actor? They might as well, instead of "occupation", state "day job".

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You know, towards the end of Jen, I was actually warming up to her a bit. She was entertaining and funny, and definitely odd. I was almost in her camp when I was reminded of how she cried when she saw her own photo. Then I remembered why I didn't like her.

--

I'd really like to see Amber gone this week because I find her so irritating, plus I'm starting to notice that Zach may actually have some game up his sleeve and that intrigues me.

Anonymous said...

Orkmommy, you are right about watching the idiots, but this is different to me because this woman really has some issues that i can't laugh at. At first she just got on my nerves with all the crying and "i love (insert name here) soooooo much, but the more i watch her the more i realize she should be in intensive inpatient pysch therapy.

Chauncey

Anonymous said...

A million thanks to Jackie for her help in evicting Boogie/Will video.

It scares me, but does not surprise me to think that Eric is telling Dick about Zach wanting to backdoor him. We just might be stuck with Amber for another week. Of course Eric is not wanting Zach to stay anyways, so it is a smart move on his part. I do not believe he thinks Amber or Jameka are a problem/threat to get out later. He still needs to be careful.

If for any reason one of the D's is evicted before E&J, it will look good to them that they held up the bargin of them in the F4 and the vote could land in their favor.

It is looking like it could come down to a battle of D&D vs E&J for the F4.

It ain't over till it's over!

Anonymous said...

These HG's are boring!! I'm between projects and have nothing to do and they're sleeping!! There's no updates on Joker's because they're not doing anything!! How am I supposed to use them for entertainment at work WHEN THEY'RE SLEEPING???

Ok...I'm better now :-)

Anonymous said...

I taped the show for a friend and when the credits were running something caught my eye so I re-wound (wined?..I'll check with Amber on this one).. and this is what it stated: "This program is not affiliated or associated with the estate of George Orwell and is not based on the novel 1984"...
Does anyone know what this means?
Della

PlaidChick said...

I'm not bashing Jameka's education, I have my degree in psychology. I did have to laugh when I found out Jen had her degree in child development because to me I could do that course work in my sleep. Psych is a bit more scientific. And I didn't understand why she also got a degree in architecture. But to each their own.

Jameka has mentioned many times she works for a school. I don't think she's a guidance counselor. She could very well just be doing class scheduling and vocational stuff for kids. Who knows.

I know lots of people who have multiple degrees, and are not "street smart"

Anonymous said...

Plaidchic - I don't think Jen actually got her degrees. Wikipedia says "Jen never completed her double major in Architecture and Early Childhood Development."

I couldn't find any information anywhere else on her education, but my guess is that she quit school because of her modeling career...

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna throw in my two cents regarding Jameka encouraging Amber to try modeling. I believe Jameka was being sincere. I'm no fan of Amber's, but if you stop and look at her objectively, try to forget how irritating you find her to be and picture her without red eyes, she's a nice looking girl. She has very pretty hair and her body's not bad, just needs toning. I have watched every season of ANTM and they have had some girls on there that make Amber look like Miss USA. So it's not inconceivable to me that she could try out for that show and possibly get a spot. With that said, she'd probably have a total mental breakdown the very first week and Tyra would send her butt home!

Rbennie

Anonymous said...

I know just what you mean Orkmommy. I need entertainment now...not at 2 in the morning their time. And, what is worse, without them performing, I will have to do that stuff I don't like to do. Which reminds me. How do people manage to get away for months on end. Even without the pay check issue (which would be an issue for me!) just taking time away would be difficult. Do you think it will be this quite in the house the rest of the season? Even when they are awake, there is not much going on. Have we already seen all the fireworks? Sue

Anonymous said...

Rbennie - I disagree. I don't find Amber attractive at all and she's very out of shape.

That's just my opinion though... :-)

Deanna said...

I do wonder about Ambers mental state. Last night she was in the back yard laying on the couches there and was clearly chatting away and it wasn't a prayer. I asked my husband if someone was in the spa or something and he said that frighteningly she was alone out there. She was rattling off the HG's names over & over... It was really odd. I think CBS does more damage by exploiting a possible head case like Amber, than to have Dick on a rant. He is sure of who he is and Amber is sooooooo lost. Scary...

Deanna said...

I agree Orkmommy as does my husband, Amber has gorgeous hair, but the rest isn't much. This is of course just our personal opinions. ;)~

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:59

George Orwell's "1984" was a novel about Big Brother watching everyone and everything.

~~Silk said...

2:59 PM, Anonymous said...
"This program is not affiliated or associated with the estate of George Orwell and is not based on the novel 1984"...
Does anyone know what this means?
Della"

In Orwell's novel "1984", society and all aspects thereof were controlled by the government, "Big Brother"

Anonymous said...

OMG Deanna - Did we just agree on something??? Holy crapola!!

:-)

Anonymous said...

I was just sitting here picturing myself in the house amidst these HGs and thinking about how I would be feeling and reacting. If for some strange reason I had managed to last this long in the game, I would probably be closest with Jessica and Jameka. I would try to stay away from Amber as much as possible, and when I had to talk to her I would talk really slowly and not use any big words. I would probably find Eric amusing, but be suspicious of him because he's always twitching and biting his nails. I would be up and down with Daniele - like her just fine when she's not HOH, but find her unbearable when she is. I don't think Zach and I would have much rapport. As far as Dick goes, I would have to do my best acting job to pretend to stomach him, and if he ever went off on me like he has done to Jen, Kail, Jameka and Amber, well let's just say there would be police and ambulances involved, because I do not have that much of a tolerance level, LOL.

So how do you guys think you would fair in the house?

Rbennie

Anonymous said...

Nope,I have to agree with Orkmommy and say I don't care for Amber's look. Something about her eyes are funny and I hate the way she wears that hair off her forehead,which is huge,BTW.She'd never make it on ANTM,she's not focused enough,she's all over the place.And,she'd probably be the one that they'd shave her head or make it 2 inches all over!

I think if J&E keep to their promise to stay true to D&d,then the fireworks are over in this house.They will pick the other two off and then start gnawing on each other. So if Jess had hoped to win this thing,she probably should have made a big move this week,and she didn't,so she will probably be the first of the four voted out,cause they will think they can't win against her,UNLESS,she can pull a "Janelle"(shout out to Anybody...) and win,win,win to the end.

Anonymous said...

I have noticed when Dick is not angry he seems to have a good sense of humor and is witty(i.e. Zach on the treadmill and Dick saying"Run, Forest, run".)
He also has ALOT more patience than I would with Dani and her attitude!! I had to laugh when she described her perfect man--most of it did not match Nick!!

Barbwire--I agree about Eric/Jess--they are like two kids in junior high...
He is sooo socially delayed!!

I have noticed that Jam is spending alot of time with Eric/Jess. She knows Amb. is going to be leaving and probably realizes she needs to work on her alliance with them.

Being in this house would have been the perfect time for Amb. to work on getting her "small" body in shape--too bad she waited until the week she was going to be evicted!!
Another commenter was right about her modeling. Given today's standard she would be considered a plus-size model(in which case I wonder where that leaves me?)

The house is pretty dull--we need a good fight to shake things up!!! LOL

Anonymous said...

I need help here...

I'm reading Jokers and Dick/Eric/Jessica are talking about something with numbers. The number 80 came up and Dick said it was the number of days left in the game. Now, I divided 80 by 7 to see how many weeks that is and I got almost 11 1/2. Am I right? Are they insane?

Anonymous said...

Nana - If Amber is considered plus-sized I'd like to know where I'd be too!! My problem with plus-sized models is that they wear size 12 or 14. Where I live, 12 & 14 isn't in the plus section!!

barbwire said...

joe in ny

God cares for every bird in the air (or something like that) he loves all of his children - we all have free will, so where we end up is in our hands

If Amber just came thru drug rehab, i know that she was told not to make any major changes in her life, & i would bet a dollar that her counselor told her NOT to go on the show - also, whoever is watching her little girl ( i haven't heard, her mother, maybe?) i'm sure, also told her not to go on the show - she needs to make amends to the people who love her, especially her little girl, for all the years she was on drugs - instead of trying to strengthen the bonds of love with the people who do truly love her, she is looking for someone else to love her, the audience, us !! and we don't - she's looking for love in all the wrong places

just my opinion - but i know people like her, so she really rubs me the wrong way, & i don't at all feel sorry for her, she made her bed, etc

on a lighter note, i too can stare at the tv for hours, watching wierd & unusual things - i think we all love to analyze people, & BB gives us the perfect forum for doing that - because BB seems to bring out the worst in most people - but like most of you, it's my summer hobby & i love it !! SO MUCH sob sob sob

barbwire said...

sorry - in my 3rd paragraph, i said i know people like amber, i didn't mean i know that people like amber, cause i don't think anyone does - i meant i know people that are like amber

Anonymous said...

if i was on this show i would be able to get along with everybody pretty much, but i might have gotten kicked off listning to ED. But i am 6'3 270lbs so he probably would not have messed with me. I think i would have went for an alliance with Zach, Mike and tried for a showmance with Jameka.

Chauncey

Anonymous said...

deanna.....perhaps when amber was talking to herself outloud she was going over in her mind (studying) who was hoh, who was pov and when, thinking that the next competition would be questions to that effect.

joe in ny....i am a teacher and can tell you that we are indeed watching the results of an educational system gone sour. too bad reading, writing, and 'rithmetic is no longer required to be mastered. but we DO have a lot of people who "believe" they are the greatest things in the world!!

Anonymous said...

Ok, I'm confused. Is ORKMommy & barbwire the same person?

Jan

Anonymous said...

Anon - 2:59 - George Orwell's novel :1984" - Government, i.e. "Big Brother" uses cameras to watch over citizens to make sure they comply with laws of the land. Sort of like President Bush's government.

Anonymous said...

I JUST HAD TO SAY IT!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Jan - Barbwire is my mom. What made you think we were the same person?

Anonymous said...

YOU GO JOY!! I LOVE IT.
HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY,,HEE HEE
BESIDES I'M TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT AMBER!! BORING...ALSO LIKE OUR GOV'T...
G in FLA

Anonymous said...

I don't think Amber could handle nursing, it involves making rational quick decisions even during your training, as a student you have to be able to show your capable of handling situations during a crisis mode, also in many states you have to pass a physiological evaluation, my mom's a Nurse Recruiter, although in many states there's a Nursing shortage, probably because entry level is very strict, all student applicant's have to pass a pre-entry Nurses exam, pass a separate mathematic problematic exam, and terminology exam, If applicant isn't able to pass math exam, they are not accepted until they're able to pass it, unlike years ago, To get accepted into a Nursing Program Students have to pass more exams than any other Major degrees, plus after you've completed Nursing School a student has to pass Nurses State Board Exam in order to obtain their Nursing license, in some states they no longer approve applications from people who were former drug addict's, felon's, DWI convictions, Applicant's on various medications whether it's just one mood stabilizer aren't accepted, I seriously doubt Amber would pass her pre-entrance exam, Amber's emotional state, could be reason she would not be accepted.

Anonymous said...

And she'd have to get some work done even to get a job at Hooter's.