Monday, May 31, 2010

The Bachelorette Summer 2010 Blog Discussion

I received a few requests for a blog discussion post for the new season of The Bachelorette which airs on Monday evenings at 8 PM on ABC. The official website is right here. I don't watch this one, so I won't be blogging about it. However, this is a place where you and your friends can comment on the episodes. Enjoy!

193 comments:

Rochelle said...

OK, I asked for it, so here I am. I am at least watching the first two eps. I put some comments about the first ep on last season's discussion blog.

So far, Ali's constant one note giggling is getting to me. I know she's all great gal and down to earth and such but I won't make it thru the season if she can't go a little deeper. Actually it has to be really hard to be up and all for it with 17 different guys, 8 at a time on a date when you're the only girl... so if I were her age, maybe I'd giggle all the time and say little with any weight too.

Hopefully she will be able to relax as time goes on.

Delee said...

Who is more irritating...the weatherman or Craig M. Both different but not for her.

Sydney said...

eek! She grilled Craig M and then was like, OK great! I'm glad we had this talk! TRUST YOUR GUT. Or the weatherman.

Craig M was bugging other guys too, right? But they just focus on the weenie weather guy. I laughed ar your comment Delee!

Sydney said...

I likey Chris L!

Rose ceremony... oh Pluheeze let Craig M go!

Sydney said...

And Kurt.

Delee said...

Fell asleep missed the rose c. ugh. Hope to catch it later!

ML said...

Thanks Jackie, you read my mind!

Rochelle, I agree her constant laugh is so annoying. I think it's a nervous habit. But I'm not here for Ali, I want the guys! Craig M. is the nutso guy this time. Did you see the faces he was making when talking to Ali and he couldn't give her an answer when she asked are you interested in me. I'm so glad he's gone. Dangerous I don't know, but he definitely creeped me out, and the weatherman seemed downright scared of him.

Ali seems to be keeping more guys. Only 8 went home the first night and 3 tonight. I have to say that none of the guys are really memorable. I do like Chris L. and Roberto, mmmmmmm. The other 2 that got roses on the dates tonight seem nice and all, but I can't even remember their names. And Frank is a little too over the top quirky and thinks he's all that.

Ali is different now that she's in the driver's seat (literally) than she was as a contestant. I suppose that's good, however, I still don't really care for her. I remember who she can be, jealous and spiteful. The men all seem so taken with her; she must exude something different in person than comes off on TV.

So far it's kinda boring. Is the nutso bully Craig the most interesting they've got?
ML

auntlisa3 said...

oh there's lots more to come, don't worry. spoilers out there about all sorts of "scandalous" stuff. Hope it plays out more interesting than it sounds (ridiculous!). It seems to me like they are LOOKING for scandal now. I guess "girl looking for great guy" story got too boring.

Anonymous said...

Hi fellow fans

The 1 spoiler I heard is that the
wrestler has a girlfriend.

I do like Frank and Roberto, looks
like they are there for Ali

Estelle

rozee said...

I have to say that I really like Ali. I think she is giggly and nervous having all the attention paid to her. More than Craig being mean to the weather man was all the guys sitting around him and cracking up too. Wish I knew who they were by name, but no one stood up to stop the foolishness. Craig was just plain mean and what about him playing up to the camera. Just too full of himself.

RJM in SC said...

I agree about the giggling. It irritated me so, I had to turn the channel. will tune back in when hopefully she gets more relaxed and tone it down.

Sydney said...

good point Rozee, I saw that while they painted Craig M as dangerous, all the other guys on the couch were laughing each scene they showed him doing it. Now at some point one of the guys must have stepped in and they may not have shown it. Didn't he start in on a different guy before the weatherman? I feel like he was doing this to more than one person but the editors chose to pit the two of them together.

There are lots of spoilers on Reality Steve. I usually avoid that until the very last two eps because I like the suspense but I think I will read it this time to create some, lol

Glad to see so many posts here though! It makes it all so much better to talk about it with you all.

AlbGlinka said...

Please keep spoliers off this site, or I can't visit-- and you want a gay guy's comments right???

Hi Sydney!!!!!

Ali annoys me-- I wish they'd chosen the NYer from last season, can't think of her name, but she was too "ethnic" I think.

Frank reminds me of some of my Retail co-workers-- always ON. when's he going to tell her he moved back in with Mom & Dad?

Sydney said...

OMG Albglinka! That's what I mean.... a bad show is made so much better by coming to Jackies to discuss it and read what everyone else has to say! I will put no spoilers here, I promise!

ML said...

I have to say ditto to all of your comments Rozee, RJM, AlbGlinka, and Sydney. Hi all! Yes, we the bloggers must create some excitement for this one. And I'm loving the blogger buddies.
ML

AlbGlinka said...

Okay, so agreed: no spoilers here. That means you, Anonymous!

That Craig was an aging bully, but unfortunately some of the others were going along with it. If I were "The Weatherman" I would have said to him: "I'm not going to respond to you unless you call me by my proper name, and if you put on my clothing I will have the producers get on your ass-- it's my personal property."

I know I really should be worrying about oil spills off the Gulf Coast or something....

ML said...

I agree AlbGlinka. I sat at a traffic light for 2 minutes yesterday watching lots of cars/people go in and out of a BP station right across the street from an equally priced Shell station. Around here I don't think some people feel it yet except of course school children and teens from current events. And what about the lives lost? Everyone seems to forget them.

Ok, I digress. This is about Ali..... I don't have anything to say.
ML

monty924 said...

Hi gang,

I have to say that I love Chris L. from Cape Cod.

I'm not crazy about Ali because I think she was a bully to Vienna last season, but having said that I hope she finds a really true and geniune guy. I think that's Chris L. :)

Delee said...

The guys look so different when they are not in suits and ties. Roberto looks so much younger. At this point he is my fav.

Delee said...

I am so lonely! Where is everyone?

Delee said...

The "rock video" was plain stupid! Ali can not run, an actress she is not!

Rochelle said...

I see that Ali slurs the way she talks a little whether she's been drinking or not.

Sydney said...

Hi Delee -- I'm sorry, I have a conference call every MOnday night and tonight I had TWO. After a long day's work too.... but I tivo'd the Bachelorette and am watching a little right now.

ml said...

I only saw parts of the show, so I have to wait til it comes online to watch the whole thing. I must have missed Roberto's date, because he had a rose already at the ceremony. I caught the end of the video shoot. She basically just took turns making out with each of them while the others watched. Kinda creepy. Actually, just eeeewwwwwww. Why was the weatherman crying? Must have missed that, too. He's just not for her, and always seems to have an excuse for his odd behavior. I also did not see the tatoo Ali and Chris L. talked about. I will have to reserve judgement about it til I see it, but it sounds strange.

Ali seems to be a little more charitable about Vienna from last season, likening her to Justin. His whole 'walk to her mansion' came off as very contrived. And Frank has commentary on everything, and apparently likes to watch. They are setting him up for something. He gets a lot of screen time.
ML

dla said...

Hi there! I did not see that Jackie put up a discussion post until too late tonight!

I had the TV on but playing online while I "watched" again this week.

So far, I do like Roberto and Chris L. Should be interesting to see how things play out for the wrestler....

I am finding the spoilers to be the most interesting thing about this season so far, but I will continue to watch. Can't seem to break the habit.

Hi, I am DLA, and I am addicted to reality TV! lol

ML said...

So forget Ali, I want Roberto. I hope she does not pick him in the end because I want him to be the next bachelor!
ML

Leslie said...

Should be Roberto and Chris L at the end. The others are a bit off. Don't like the lawyer guy. Really don't like the weatherman. I'm on the fence with Justin. I remember how he was with his grandma at the beginning of the show, so I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt - but the way he acted when what's his name didn't come back from his date with Ali was just plain mean - not classy at all.

ML said...

So after finally watching the whole episode, it appears the weatherman is too emotional and immature. I'm an easy crier but he's too much. I also don't care for Craig the lawyer. Sometimes I wonder where these guys get off being so judgemantal and critical about the others. He's arrogant.

It is clear from the start that Ali pretty much knew she was going to get rid of Steve and John C. She didn't include them on any dates this week, while she took both Jesse and Frank on group dates when they had already had one on ones with her. It was also obvious that she had no chemistry with Hunter and was awkwardly pulling away from him the whole time. While it appears that Justin's stunt of hiking to her mansion cut hours off her time with Hunter, it would not have mattered.

Finally, that whole video shoot came off rather slutty on her part. After watching the whole thing, if that had been the bachelor rolling around making out with a bucnh of different girls while the others watched, there would have been trashy comments regarding him, too.
ML

Sydney said...

I had to sign on to say I am SO over the geeky weatherman. Enough with the loser talk. Bleech to quote Mad Magazine. They have had so much of him on tonight I think he's getting eliminated.

Also, the wrestler last ep was so gloating when he came back from walking to Ali's (while talking to some guy in the hot tub) that he revealed his true character then. I believe he loves his mother and grandmother. I believe he thinks he'll be a great dad and value family. But he has ISSUES. If he was really cool, he would not have gone in secret to Ali's and then come back and egged people on in conversation... I can't quote it exactly but you all remember it right? Something like the guy with him would say how great it would be to go up to see Ali and he'd say something like: Really, how long do you think it would take to walk up there... knowing he just had. If he had class he wouldn't have played that game.

I hope both go this week. It's Roberto (is that his name? The hottie) or Kirk and Chris and I think those are the only real contenders. I know she liked that guy from the first date... Frank I think... if that's her taste, Roberto is the opposite, and they have real chemistry.

Does anyone like Kasey?

Sydney said...

Why oh why did his go in with his sleeves up to show the bandage? And then lie when he got in? He's not as evil as the wrestler but it's really kinda dumb. Ugh. Ali, pick a normal guy please!!!

Delee said...

No was hoping he showed his tattoo to Ali tonight but alas he did not. If he had I am sure he would have been gone.

Glad the weatherman is kaput. Esp when he brought out that guitar and started singing to her. UGH

I agree with Roberto hanging around for awhile but he seems quiet. What am I missing besides his good looks?

Not sure about Justin's motives, I liked him at first but now?

Guess they got stranded in Iceland longer than they wanted to be there with the erupting volcano. Wonder how they handled that and if the guys got extra time with Ali?

Nana in the NW said...

Well Syd, I really liked Justin until last week. It wasn't so much that he walked to see Ali but they way he taunted the other guys. He seems like he enjoys stirring up trouble. He did get me with he talk about his family and being a great dad. However, after reading People mag. and knowing that he had 2 girlfriends while filming I am hoping Ali sees through him and lets him go soon.
I do believe Ali has put him at a disadvantage on their dates. Why would you pick someone who is on crutches to go on a date at the beach?? And the other group date she runs ahead with the other guys and leaves him trailing behind. Oh well......I would like to see the F3 be Roberto, Kirk, and Chris L. but I think Frank is going to be in there.

Nana in the NW

Sydney said...

yep DIxie, I bet the producers are so happy that the volcano erupted.... now they can promote that as the one that sent all that ash over Europe and destroyed airline service for about 6 weeks.

And thank you Nana, I wanted to see if anyone else was affected positively by Justin's story of his family but then saw a different side when he was taunting after his secret visit to see Ali.

GF or not, that said enough to me.

SYDNEY said...

Check this article out ladies --



Justin, the guy with the cast hobbles 6 miles on foot (and is not sweating) to get to ALi's house right????



And he's been hobbling on the right foot. Well for a few seconds coming up the driveway he's on his right foot, with the cast on the other. That is SO hard to believ that if they are faking this they got it wrong that I want to say that somehow the footage got erversed, which can happen, but that is hard to believe because Ali is in the foreground of the shot, and the subsequent shots match up.


The other thing that is off is that the camera gets all jerky when she sees him, to add to how unespected it is to film that... when any real camera person would be able to rack focus and zoom in without jiggles that dramatic.



Hisssssss!



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AlbGlinka said...

NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!!

They're keeping the freaks (tattoo dude)on the show just for ratings I think.

Kudos to Ali for highlighting Broadway.

I'm rooting for Chris L. but I think Ali wants someone like Kirk.

Sydney said...

I like Kirk, Chris L and Roberto. Get these lame geeks off the show. She let two go at last... But tatoo strange man has to go now. It's funny, when one guy was describing him it sounded like how the girls described Tenley on the blooper reel for The Women Tell All show.... cartoon hearts, sh*ts rainbows...

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Delee said...

We now know how big a snake Justin is!!!! He deserves every bit of venom Ali dishes out! This will be good!

ML said...

So I finally got my computer fixed! It's been a rough few weeks without, but just in time for BB! It appears no one cares about Ali the bachelorette anymore, but I shall comment anyway.

Justin self-destructed and left a smaller man. I don't think it will matter much one way or another for his career, I mean he's in SPORT"S ENTERTAINMENT for goodness sake. Buh bye. Casey was just weird. Nuff said.

I don't think Ty will last much longer now that the reason for his divorce has come out to Ali. She had Craig to get rid of this week (no chemistry whatsoever), so she didn't have to get rid of Ty because after Justin left she had to only get rid of one, and we saw how she didn't even need a rose ceremony; she knew Craig was a goner long before. So she could afford to be generous about keeping Ty, but you can't change ingrained things about yourself that easily. His marriage failed because he didn't like his wife working. Major red flag to anyone- controlling! (Not to mention archaic thinking.)

Ali seems to have cooled a bit on Frank. Perhaps quirky isn't quite enought to build a relationship on. Or she knows more than she's letting on. The previews seem to show some heartbreak there.
ML

ML said...

I finally watched the first part of the Iceland dates. Kirk and Ali are cute together and they have physical chemistry. Is he all better now? No lasting ramifications from the asbestos/mold? That was kinda scary.

Chris Harrison looks old in his jean getup. He's more of a suit guy I think. Roberto looks good no matter what. I could take a season full of him. But up to now, through the last episode in Turkey, I think they're a good match. Although I like Chris L., he's a bit sappy, but I'll be ok if she picks him and we get Roberto as the next bachelor.

I just have to say that after seeing how Ali handled Justin leaving, I like her much better. She showed strength and the proper amount of disgust with him. I hope I'm not speaking too soon; it appears there's trouble up ahead with Frank from the previews. I hope she doesn't lose it over him. I don't think they are right for each other. He's too introspective, and will require too much emotional energy from Ali. And he seems to enjoy acting as a shrink for Casey.

Looking forward to tomorrow and who doesn't get the hometown date. I think it's Ty.
ML

ML said...

I want Roberto.
ML

ML said...

Ali is always the one initiating the kisses with Frank. He's holding back. It looks like trouble for Kirk ahead, too.And I might have missed it. Did she kiss Ty, too, when they talked?
ML

ML said...

I realize I'm talking to myself here. There seems to be some sort of tension or something missing with all of them so far (Frank, Ty, Kirk) that wasn't with Roberto. Let's see how it is with Chris.
ML

ML said...

Ok so I've decided it really is best to watch the whole thing before you start commenting, because the editing really leads you on before commercials. That is of course unless you're ACTUALLY TALKING TO SOMEONE.
ML

ML said...

Chris is very simple. I'm not sure in the long run how that will play out. She never calls Roberto's name first. Maybe we will get him as the next bachelor..?

Jake and Vienna are just pathetic, but afterall the show brought them together so it is only fitting that it also see them torn apart. Vienna just needs to accept the truth. Baby he's just not that into you. ABC and Chris Harrison clearly treated Jake with deference, Vieanna.....not so much. So hopefully that's the last we hear about it/them.

ML

ML said...

I had a feeling Kirk was going. I think she really liked him but just didn't see herself in his life. What is his life? He just visited 2 different households. That's it.

Chris seems like one of the nicest guys but gosh I hate to say it, boring. I think he and his family may be a little too deep for Ali. Did you notice that both the daughters' inlaw looked very much like Chris' mom? At first I thought they were Chris' sisters because the one looked so much like the picture of the mom. Then I realized he had 2 brothers. Ali would break that mold (unless she let her hair grow out the obviously natural dark color it is).

I find myself wondering about Frank and what she sees in his whiny personality and questionable fashion sense-hometown date. There must be something beyond what we see. Are there any common religious affiliations between Ali and any of them? Are all these people really totally non-religious, or just on the show? But I digress...

Again, I think Roberto is the one. Things seem easy, natural, fun, romantic and he seems totally normal. Actually that's scary. Maybe he is too perfect for her.
ML

Sydney said...

yep, Frank is the guy you get along with great and he's all twisted up with emotions and fears --- it's a losing situation unless he matures.

Ricardo is hot and she feels he's sexy and he's grounded and mature and really great. Why is he single??? But I do think she'd be very lucky to be in Chris's family. I would choose him and run to the Cape in a heartbeat (then promptly die from his having a dog and the shellfish, so he would never choose me). But he's totally my type -- tall, broad shouldered, collegiate like (yet I've dated only a few of those). But I do think that life is too sedate for her. He did live in NY before his mother died, so maybe she could convince him to move back....

She better not not end up with either one. I think Frank is her #1 but my sense from the previews is that Frank's bomb that he drops will leave her so crushed she will not be able to get over it in time to accept from one of the other guys... and/or will not believe enough in love so fast after he burns her to accept. I hope she at least agrees to date whomever proposed because == as we all know -- I've been around, lol, and good men ARE hard to find.

At least this season was far better than the last few. They seemed like more mature guys who were genuinely not playing games once she got down to the final 5. Except for wishy washy Frank.

Sydney said...

Interesting how She was so afraid to go on the first copter ride and last ep she took off in the millionth one with Ty and Frank and didn't flinch a bit. Was the first one acting to see how the guy reacts when she's scared (or just that the producers said to do so?) She seems pretty fearless in every other regard.

Sydney said...

ML -- I just love your comments and am nodding at everything you have to say. I'd have coffee with you in a millisecond, lol. Do you live anywhere near Houston? I know -- probably not!

I hate to say it, but I don't think Chris would be so interesting... um, in the dark. He would be probably very present and attentive and all that, but... zzzz after awhile. Still, I might trade that for all the rest for life.

And I think a lot of what Vienna said about Jake is absolutely true, and as much as I like Chris, he tries to sound fair in his blogs, but it was totally slanted toward Jake. Not that Vienna is so hot. She has a job she likes and a new apartment and hopefully she will do well... and Jake is indeed going to try to turn this into the career he wanted in the first place, and I really don't blame him for going for that. But it's pretty clear he has a temper, is a perfectionist and prissy. But very good looking. We shall see what happens.

ML said...

Sadly Sydney I'm in IL where we are smoldering, but that would be fun! And I agree about Chris. I think it would all be too deep for Ali. Yes I said it.
ML

ML said...

So tonight is the big Frank reveal. I have been hearing Ali doesn't pick anyone in the end. Does that mean she was actually going to pick Frank until he left? Maybe all she really wanted was celebrity in the first place. In a way I hope so because maybe Roberto will be the next bachelor. Maybe more people might watch and comment? Of course with BB going strong now there is really no need to watch/comment this show; I'm mostly talking to myself!
ML

Sydney said...

ML-- NO!!! I signed on to keep you company!!

dla said...

Ladies, I am here to add my two cents from the West Coast... I am assuming Reality Steve was also accurate about tonight's episode??

Sydney, thanks for the invite! :)

dla said...

ML, Roberto is definitely my fave of this season... although, from what I have been reading in the rags, I hope to still feel that way in about a month!

Sydney said...

well, I do think she was going to pick Frank, and I just saw the part with Nicole and it looked pretty real... I mean, it had to be a set up but it looked less like the other set ups they do on this show (like Roberto tossing the Lion King CD into his suitcase last, lol.

SPOILER ALERT:









It's all over the gossip mags what you said -- that she ends up with no one. I was thinking she has enough connection with Roberto and Chris that she could have accepted either's proposals. But(and I may have said this here before)I think Frank's departure tonight freaks her out too much to proceed with the others, but that's just conjecture. She has so much chemistry with Roberto, why would she not accept his proposal??? Hottie Chris, who would be my choice, will be too boring for her in the end, but we've both said that,lol

I'd like to hear other's theory of why she would not accept to at least KEEP DATING either of the last two guys left...


I think Frank and she would have eventually broken up, but because he's a mess and she has her fears too and they come out with him.

Sydney said...

DLA!!! weeeee! Yay!

What you hear about Roberto-- hmmm, I am trying to think of what I read. Seeing him now say all this great stuff about her on the show, how could he be a cad? He doesn't have cad energy it seems.

I get how the guys on the bachelorette version of the show, being men and therefore competitive by nature (not that the women can't be, but it's a different brand), can be just about winning, and winning to beat out the other guys, as opposed to being about winning for the girl, or feeling just not that into her. But Roberto has been unusual in that I don't get that from him.

Sydney said...

arrgh, now I just want to get to Frank's part. Hope they don't make us wait till after Chris, but maybe they don't want it to affect her first dates with Roberto and Chris?

Sydney said...

ML -- are you gone? Have to wait for commercial to see. And I was just in chicago this weekend. I grew up on the north shore..... are you close to there or further south?

And do you watch BB?

Sydney said...

What Roberto isacting like he doesn't know what the envelope from Chris Harrison is? Um....... Dla, should I eat my previous comment?! lol

dla said...

I have had a thing for baseball players since the 80's, so that may explain part of my attraction to Roberto, in addition to his natural charm!! :)

I just read something in a magazine over the weekend that has me concerned, but hoping it is inaccurate. Even if it is not, I still like him!

I also like Chris - if she was looking for stability, that was her guy... Sounds like he has been doing just fine with the ladies, per my magazine article.

I read Reality Steve at the very beginning of this season, but have still enjoyed watching even though I know the outcome at the end... Never thought she had it in her to pull off a season, but she has done OK.... especially with some drama thrown in from the boys ;)

Sydney said...

Woah, for once the fantasy suite is actually a fantasy suite. They had to walk thru the shallow water to climb up a ladder to get there.

lol,and she waster no time taking his shirt right off. Smart girl :-0

dla said...

OK, now I am really looking forward to tonight's episode...

Sounds dishy! LOL

Sydney said...

Dla, I caved and read R.Steve too and feel the same. I have still been interested, but had I not read it, I could swear this season would have turned out with a genuine love match with one of the last 5 guys.

I think we read the same mag about both guys.

Sydney said...

are those pearls (and clams, which are just sitting on the surface of the sand PLANTED?

dla said...

Syd, totally with you... Had I not read it at the beginning, I would not have believed it.

And, with his proven track record of spoilers, there was no reason to think that he was not spot on.

dla said...

LOL about the pearls / clams... :)

Sydney said...

FINALLY, the frank stuff. I tell you the stuff with Chris looked pretty sincere. Though I have dated a ton of guys who were that sincere in a month or so and were gone in a month or so too.

Sydney said...

what? he's telling Chris like he didn't know the producers sent him hone to CHicago before Tahiti and FILMED IT?

Nana from the NW said...

I have no idea what Reality Steve said but I would guess what happens with Frank has Ali so upset and unsettled about finding true love that she choses to not accept a proposal from either Chris or Roberto. But does she not even want to continue to date one of them?? That's really dumb....unless she has been doing a good acting job with her feelings for both(especially Roberto).

Sounds like the show is really good tonight.....I'll be watching in a few hours.

""Hi"" Dla

Sydney said...

oh the frank thing does not disaapoint. I think the producers were jumping up and down for real life drama.

dla said...

Hi Nana :)

Sydney said...

What's funny is that poor ML has been here by herself, and tonight we came to keep her co and she's not here. She may check in after the show but it just ended. Thanks for keeping me company gals. Now when it's in your time zone, I will check in to see what you have to say. It is a pretty great ep.

dla said...

Syd, the countdown is awwwwwn....

I am looking forward to it! :)

Sydney said...

I can't wait, lol

dla said...

Commercial break -

I giggled when Roberto threw the Lion King cd into his bag...

Staged product placement - lol

From a continuity standpoint, he was packing a red suitcase and then threw a black suitcase into the trunk of his car... Makes me crazy :)

Sydney said...

I know... and Chris packed two teeny suitcases, but he is in new clothes everytime I see him. An Orange tee in Tahiti with plaid shorts... Of course they must give them some clothing on the set!

The season when Petals knew someone on the show, didn't she say that the girls all had to do their own hair and MU and get all their own clothes? Maybe....

dla said...

Maybe...

One of the things I have appreciated about Ali is that her wardrobe may not be the most glamorous, but she has definitely been "real life"...

Here we go again... Roberto and Tahiti sounds a-okay to me :)

dla said...

Roberto makes me smile at the TV :)

What a cutie!! ML, he would make a terrific Bachelor!! I would certainly tune in each week...

Sydney said...

I wonder if they will end up asking him... I know everyone would go for Chris too, Mr. Aw Shucks. Kinda reminds me of a John Kennedy type in demeanor... but I think he wouldn't do it.

Where are you now in the show? I think you must be on to her date with Chris. She really connects with all three in very different ways.

Sydney said...

Well Dla, I am going to get ready for bed ... It's beyond 11 PM now. That is not fair! I will check back to see whatever comments you might have put before I shut off the computer and will hope ML will come back to write a few things tomorrow.

Thanks for joining me, and I can't WAIT to read what you may think!

dla said...

Terrific ep without too much over the top drama -

I suppose, at the end of the day, that Frank's feelings for two women are not that much different than Ali's feelings for three men... Although, she did not know about the girl at home, and the guys are in it to win it.

Thought provoking and seems to me that she falls into the "once bitten, twice shy" category. I don't wonder that this had everything to do with her "final" decision.

Not really looking forward to Men Tell All ep next week - but I know I will watch! What else would I do?!? :)

ML said...

I'm so sorry I missed you guys; thanks for leaving the great comments-now I got people to respond to! (They can put the straight jacket away now.)

First Sydney, yes north shore and of course BB! I generally comment after. I tend to miss too much of the actual show if I try to chat at the same time in a different room.

I think we are all reading similar articles, but my impression was more that perhaps the guys did not turn out in the end, not necessarily that Ali didn't choose one. I think she probably chooses Roberto (dammit) but subsequently they break up or he vanishes on her as he had done to a previous girlfriend.

Yes, dla, Roberto is a cutie. I fear he may have committment issues, but that doesn't matter. Me gusta. Me quieres. LOL

Maybe Chris was so dejected after Ali turned him down in the finale that he now comforts himself with nightly barflies. He's probably a minor celeb in the Cape bars now and is propositioned by these gals who are undoubtedly looking for a solid family like Chris has. @@ He would not make a good bachelor. He's too emotional and would bore us all to death at the same time. I do think it's funny how he responded to the fantasy suite invitation. He acted like well uh, sure what the heck. What kind of guy would turn down that? Free sex in paradise? Unlike the BB house, the bachelorettte can close the suite to the cameras.

And Frank. I'll have to post a separate tome about that one...
ML

Sydney said...

Yay ML!

Can't wait to hear more.

My sis lives in Evanston, my brother used to live in German Town and now lives closer to Second City... or Steppenwolf, lol.

And my parents lived in Northbrook. Glad you are commenting on BB -- tho I have not been there much this season.
Based on our comments, I think you, dla and I could have lots of fun having high tea somewhere, or cocktails or something.

dla said...

If only geography were not in the way, I would be so ready for that! :)

Sydney said...

Hi gals-- It's the Men Tell All tonight. Sadly, I really don't want to hear the words guard and protect your heart in that weird voice, nor do I want to see the weather man ever again in my lifetime (I know, I'm being so hideous right now). I am interested to see/hear Tye and Kirk. And I signed on to chat with you all...

Sydney said...

I mus tsay she handles herself very diplomatically. I don't think at her age I would have had the same comportment. Nice to see Kirk again. He had nothing but the nicest stuff to say to her.

monty924 said...

I've read all the spoilers and I still say she picks Chris L. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat. The producers are editing Chris to be the next Bachelor, but if he isn't the F1, I say he turns it down. JMO

LOVE CHRIS L.!!!

meb said...
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meb said...

monty... I like Chris, but I don't think he's the one for Ali... neither is Roberto in my opinion even tho I like Roberto too. If it were me, Roberto would have been my pick. Love 'em dark and handsome. (Is he tall too?)

It would have been Frank she picked, but he would have been a poor choice. Not that he's living at home with his parents... if he had a job, that would have indicated he was saving his money. He wasn't.

I just hope she didn't let them propose and then turn them both down. That would be mean.

Now that I look back at all of them, I think Kirk would have been a good choice for her... and he really did care for her. Love?? Not too sure... but then there are those 'love at first sight' kinds of relationships that last, so maybe in a month you could fall in love and then have your heart broken... it could happen!

I don't know that I want to hear Frank next week. Who cares now. He did what he did! Over!

Please, never again do I want to hear G & P Y Heart. I surely hope Kasey never says that to his next girl. If he does, I hope she socks him a good one!!!!!

Wonder if Justin's ex goes back with him, especially now that she knows about Kimberly (whoever that was).

PLEASE! No Chris as the next Bachelor... PLEASE! No one we know as the next Bachelor or Bachelorette. Let's get some new faces in there!

(That removed comment was me...I needed to correct a sentence that didn't make sense).

Sasha said...

Hi All...I have a question and am interested your opinions, please.

Ok, Frank decided he had to leave. I think he was basically well-intentioned and ultimately he had to follow what's best for him. Unless I'm losing my memory (entirely possible), Ali herself left the show (Bachelor) at some point close to the end because she had to follow what was best for her (in her case, she chose her job). At that point, she chose to leave even though she supposedly was falling for Jake (she dodged a bullet there, admittedly). SO, am I the only one who found it a bit ironic that Ali kept saying that Frank was selfish for what he did? She, too, made a decision in her season that she felt she had to do for herself. I realize one was for a job and one was for a former gf but I see more similarity than difference. My question...buried in all those words (sorry) is what do you guys think of what Ali did v. what Frank did?

btw, I like Ali, she's the only reason I still watched the show after losing interest after Jake chose Vienna (blech). I like Frank, too. I'm just curious if my thinking is wonky on this one :)

Thanks!

Sydney said...

Brilliant Sasha, I totally didn't make that oh so obvious connection. Hers wasn't because she had a former flame she was still in love with, but....

Sydney said...

If Chris is the next Bachelor, I'm joining the show!

ML said...

Hey Sydney et al, I've been out of town and unable to comment, but I'm back and will be catching up here. I haven't commented on Frank yet! As for Chris, if the gossip sites are correct he will need a major STD test before anyone will touch him!
ML

meb said...

Shasha, the difference with Ali leaving was that she did it before the meeting of the parents... in other words, she didn't take it as far as Jake. And she had said early on, when Jake kept picking Vienna to stay, that if Vienna was what Jake saw for a wife, then she wasn't the one for him. She just should have left sooner. She didn't leave until the powers to be decided she would be the next Bachelorette. IMHO

ml... I agree.. and really, don't see what anyone sees in Chris in the first place. To each her own... but he dresses sloppy, he walks funny..like he has something up his butt... and he gets all blotchy... I just don't see it... but then that's just me.

Sasha said...

Thanks, Sydney and meb, appreciate the input. Tomorrow night we'll know for sure what happened (even though the 'net has supposedly already told us). I'm not good at watching the show and commenting but I'll be here after the show to see everybody's take on it. Thanks again,
Sasha

dla said...

Sasha, I have spoken those very words since the exit of Frank... A bit of a double standard, IMHO, as he followed his heart and she is following her heart... What do I know?!?

I will be watching tonite and posting later, as I am also no good at watching & posting simultaneously. Tonight, I don't want to miss a thing! I know we already know the outcome, but I want to see it go down....

Enjoy ladies, and I look forward to everyone's thoughts later ;)

K in WI said...

Ach! Thank God it's over. If I hade to hear Ali's giggle one more time I'd have to scratch my ears out.

Thought tonight would be very boring and disappointing. Well, it was disappointing although not that boring in that I didn't see that coming AT ALL!

joyn said...

I haven't watched this season but watched tonight. Have been reading your comments all season long.

I'm glad that she chose Roberto. Like Meb, I like 'em tall, dark and handsome. He seems so in love with Ali. Hope it works out for them. And I hope Chris finds his own love.

K in WI said...

Just want to clarify--when I said it was disappointing, I'm not disappointed that she chose Roberto, just a little disappointed that Chris didn't get his last date although I suppose it's kinder that way.

I was convinced she wasn't going to pick anyone, so I'm glad she did pick Roberto and I wish them a long happy life.


Anyone think Chris would make a good next Bachelor? Not sure myself. Think he may be too sensitive.

ML said...

K, I do he think Chris is too sensitive (obviously his skin is too), but more than that, I think he's too boring. He's very good looking but even Ali's family visit was the same. All they could say was he's a great guy, but there was something missing. The idea of him was great but not much beyond that.

Are Roberto and Ali still together today? I haven't read any other spoilers and this after the final rose was filmed a couple weeks ago. I hope so. I hope Roberto isn't too good to be true. He says all the things a woman wants to hear and it comes out of a devastatingly handsome package. It was so apparent at the end when Chris asked them about wedding plans, they are obviously waiting for an offer for a televised wedding ceremony. They've taken all the steps, the apartment, moving his business and her starting fresh in San Diego. I'd watch just to see Roberto again.
ML

ML said...

I never did get a chance to comment on Frank after his departure, but there really isn't much to say. I think he took the bird in the hand, what he thinks is a sure thing. End of story. How Ali or anyone else could consider him over someone like Roberto (and others) is beyond me. Quite frankly, (haha pun intended) I'm glad he didn't show up tonight; I don't enjoy watching him squirm.
ML

ML said...

I'm making up for the two weeks I missed by commenting to myself. We need fresh blood for the next bachelor. I don't want a rehash of any of these guys. However, it looks like we're going to get a lot of the also rans in this bachelor pad thing. It looks like all trash and no substance- maybe that's a good thing. I will probably watch (at least until Survivor's back) and comment. Should we continue that here on this post?
ML
ML

dla said...

I had read the "update" to the spoilers today, so knew what to expect tonight... I am so happy to see this turn out the way that it did!! So much more interesting and fun than her choosing neither of them as previously thought.

I have said it before, and will say it again... Roberto is HOT!

I wish them well, and hope that, no matter how things turn out, they never make *sses of themselves on national TV in the manner of Jake / Vienna...

ML, I will see you here for Bachelor Pad! Looks like total trash TV, but I plan to watch until something else catches my attention! :)

K in WI said...

As a huge Big Brother fan,I'm actually kinda looking forward to Bachelor Pad. I think it should be very interesting IF it is more game-play than sleazy sex play. From the previews, I'm afraid it might be too much of the latter. But I can hope.

ML said...

I haven't read too much about it, so we'll have to see what the object of the 'game' is next week. I was a bit surprised to see a couple of people in the previews though, especially the supposed 'sweet' one I can't remember her name, something like Carly, you remember the one who was overly peppy, dancer, **it rainbows, etc. They must have pitched a different show to her or she's not who we thought either. Elizabeth (blond now, she was a very dark brown on Jake's season) the one who played hard to get kissing games with Jake is now all over everybody? Gia the maxim model with Wes, Jillian's country singing scoundrel, and they brought back the weatherman? For what? So I do think K that it will be sleazy sex play mostly (weatherman excluded) but at least it won't be all Rachel and Brendon 24/7.
ML

ML said...

Yes dla I agree, and it's worth repeating, Roberto is muy caliente!
ML

Sydney said...

I will join you al for Bachelor pad too ladies. K in WI, it does look a little like the season of Big Brother that was all about sex and drugs, literally. I will wince through the Wes's and the friggin WEATHERMAN to see what happens with the people I like. If Tenley and Kipton connect in a serious way that lasts beyond the show, it will all be worth it.

I can't believe I had to work last night so late that I came in at 8:58 Though I was TIVO ing it, the TV took just a sec to warm up and I saw ROberto putting the ring on her finger. Talk about a spoiler to a two hour show!! But I was not going to wait all thru the thing to find out. I have to go to bed but will read your stuff tomorrow and come back to comment.

Roberto IS hot, I doubt they will ever make arses of themselves no matter what happens and I would still take Chris in a heartbeat, though life might become a tad snoozy.

Sydney said...

Hi Joy, glad you watched and good to hear from you.

dla, I need to get to Reality Steve because his insistence that Ali is single looks off base, and he usually is dead on with his spoliers and gossip.

I thought they'd pick Chris as the next bach but apparently this season with Ali saved the ratings so much that maybe they will regroup before picking the next person -- and pick that one carefully to get another success story, if that's possible.

And K in WI -- ITA on the giggle! I was thinking that last night on the final rose show. I was like, ENOUGH already (even though she did it far less after the first few shows).

ML said...

Hey Sydney, I was wondering where you were. Tenley was the name I meant before not Carly. Thanks for reminding me, and I look forward to chatting about Bachelor Pad -hope it's chat-worthy.
ML

Sasha said...

Thanks, dla...I agree with the bit of a double standard about 'following the heart'.

Well, they managed to have me thinking she may not have chosen anyone but I'm glad she chose Roberto. I liked them both well enough but after the whole Jake/Vienna debacle, I am kind of cynical about the whole franchise and really have little confidence that any of these couples will truly make it. And yet, I watch.

And I most likely will watch Bachelor Pad or at least give it a shot. Why I'm not sure but if nothing else I can be glad I'm way past that stage :)

Sydney said...

ML, it might be more like retch worthy to watch Bachelor Pag, but I think I may be in till the bitter end, lol. And now that folks are chatting here again, it will certainly be more of a motivation!

Sydney said...

ML, I laughed the first time I read them but in skimming over dcomments again you've got me cracking up over "quite Frankly" (GOOD ONE!) and Chris is sensitive and so is his skin once more.

Sydney said...

Sunday night -- going to set my tivo for Drunken Debauchery House....

ML said...

Sydney, I shall be watching- no TIVO here. I don't know if I'll be able to comment during the show, although I just saw it's on for two hours, so maybe. I am sure I will have plenty to say afterward though. The thing is Sydney, the drunken debauchery sounds like fun-to do, not to watch!
ML

Sydney said...

Lol ML. I am watching but have to go to the grocery store tonight so I am TIVOing too and will watch what I missed. Tenley was first and she welcomed everyone... cheerleadery.

I want to see Kypton and she get togehter, but it sounds like they've dated several times. If he hasn't gone further, isn't that her answer?

Amazing that everyone thinks Gia is hotter than anyone else... with all those beautiful girls. And she came in in a white tee and jeans... very covered up.

Now starting to see the rules.

Can the weatherman hook up with ANYONE? Besides that wacko brunette who told the cute doctor (who is now on his own TV show) that hse was ready for the reproduction stage?

Sydney said...

OF COURSE, twister in your bathing suit. Will there be any crotch shots of the men or only the women? Hmmm, I could win in Vegas on that bet.

Sydney said...

Craig is not even listening to what Elizabeth is saying. He is just looking her up and down. She does not look that good as a blonde.

And who knew Jessie was hiding such an uberhot body!!

Sydney said...

Didn't I say I was going to the store??? The sun is going down. I'll be back to see what y'all wrote.

meb said...

I missed the first half hour of Bachelor Pad... so I don't know what went down with Juan and K (name?). Whatever it was, it was his downfall.

I may just enjoy this. I can't believe that Elizabeth is the same girl who wouldn't let Jake kiss her and now she's already in love with (name again). She is really wacko! She actually turned the women against him and then told him he had to go tell the girls that he was in love with her! What?????

So glad Michelle is already gone. I couldn't stand her the first time around.

Craig is still crazy, probably dangerous as they originally said he was on Ali's reign... and I just really don't like him.

Weatherman obviously can't last long... he has no one.

Tenley and Kypton do like each other, so that'll be fun to watch.

Enough... I'll wait and see what you all think.

Sydney said...

love hearing what you had to say Meb. I haven't watched the last 45 minutes, so I will check it out on Tivo and come back to comment on that and read everyone else's/

ML said...

Thanks for holding down the fort Sydney and Meb. Oh where to start. First, they are going to have to have more than one date for an episode that long in the future. It was actually a very long two hours. I just get the overall impression that they just took a a few handfuls of previous rejects and threw them together for some bizzarre adult multi-week sleepover. Oh that's right; that's what they intended to do.
ML

ps-I have more to say but my computer has kicked me off twice and I lost the tome I was writing so I'm going to split it up so I don't lose it again!

ML said...

So first off, the person I most want gone is Elizabeth. She makes Michelle look sane. Does she think that by dying her hair blond (which, by the way, does NOT look good on her) that she can hide who she is? She was still playing the same games (remember the kiss taunting with Jake?) only worse. She was actually trying to extort a relationship from Jesse. She actually told him that he had to go around this show with cameras everywhere and not only profess his love for her but tell everyone how much of a jerk he was and how sorry he was for hurting Elizabeth. Excuse my language but WTF? And this after she came back from her 3 on 1 date where she told Craig he has to win her over. Uh, I'm no Craig fan but who died and made Elizabeth Queen?

I actually feel sorry for her, though. Jesse pretty much said to her face in so many words, 'hey, I'm just not that into you', and her response is to threaten him with eviction if he doesn't love her back and thensome? Desperate doesn't even begin to describe her.
ML

ML said...

My last wv was 'suptene' as in wassup ten(ley)? Which brings me to Tenley. I still say, who names their kid Tenley? With names like that she and Kipton (???) deserve each other.

Names aside, Tenley is still over emotional. She geeted everybody like a cheerleader greets football players running onto the field. A tad over exuberant for all but not Craig, nor Chrissaly (sp?) (again with the names). I don't know who said it, but everytime I see or hear Tenley all I can think of is her $&itting rainbows, because it is an apt description.

When it came to Michelle, no I wouldn't want to be in her path of wrath, but Tenley's response was a bit over sensitive and childish. If there had been any threat of potential violence ABC would have played it up big time. I found myself saying out loud to the tv, 'what, you think she's going to murder you on a tv show?' Tenley surprised me coming on this show in the first place. She is too naive and emotionally fragile.
ML

PDX Granny said...

Can you say "Stalker?"

Elisabeth wasn't the least bit subtle as she was explaining to Jesse K why he needed to be nice to her. It sure sounded to me like she was threatening him. It sounded like that to him too. She's the one who should be watching out now, not him!

ML said...

Poor Michelle. All of her efforts and now her second show (she probably goes to all the reunions, too) and all she earns for herself is the label of psycho? She was likened to Lorena Bobbitt!?! (How in the world did I even remember-without Googling it- the name of the appendage chopping woman?) I'm not sure if someone else in the house made a refernce to it or I just thought it, but I found myself thinking when she went into the bathroom with Tenley, I hope there are no bunnies in this house. Tenley would be ruined for life! So maybe it's best she's gone already. I don't think ABC was going for macabre with this show.

And poor Gwen. Who was it who referred to her or said they see her as the mom? These singles are quick to judge and shallow.

Craig isn't dangerous, he's just nothing. Him thinking he can win Elizabeth over is as deluded as she is making him try.
ML

dla said...

My name is dla, and I am clearly addicted to reality trash tv... :)

I found the entire thing highly intriguing... saw such a different side to most of them than we saw during their "respective" seasons on Bach / ette

Elizabeth is wacko - I always thought she was a nut with the kiss me / oh no you don't, but... Poor poor Jessie Kovacs!! I am quite certain he had NO idea what he was getting into, so to speak...

And, ladies I totally agree. NOT good as a blonde!

Can't wait to see what everyone thinks... how did I get to the place that I watch this stuff?!? LOL

PDX Granny said...

Best quote of the evening!

"It's hard to put rose on a straight jacket." The Weatherman about Crazi Michelle

Craig couldn't have been any smarter when he told her he didn't vote for her. If he had admited it, she definitely would have been taken out in the special jacket!

ML said...

You and me both dla, haha. PDX Granny, that was my favorite quote of the night! The weatherman should stick around just for his comedy. I wonder if he's still a weatherman? Sydney, I wonder the same thing- would anybody hook up with him? Micelle might have been his only chance.
ML

ML said...

Where and when did this one-sided love affair with Jesse start for Elizabeth? She came into the house already in love with him.

And Sydney I just looked back over your earlier post. It's Kypton with a Y? That's even worse!
ML

ML said...

Omg Sydney we were both wrong. Yes, I looked at the official site for something and !?! Kiptyn? Who could ever possibly spell that right? I bet you to this day he still gets mail from eldery Aunts who haven't the foggiest idea how to spell his name, they just know they're related.
ML

Sasha said...

My name is Sasha and I have no idea how I came to watch this show! Maybe it's so I could see all of your comments and get a laugh or two? Yeah, that's it! I think I'll not admit watching this to show to anyone except you guys. Thanks for guarding my secret ;)

Nana from the NW said...

Hello, my name is Joyce(aka Nana in the NW)and I am addicted to reality TV...trashy, crazy reality TV. I personally blame Jackie for my addiction. She has provided a place that enables me to comment and want to watch these shows!! LOL

I found the show quite entertaining. I do think that only people who have watched Bachelor/Bachelorette will like Bachelor Pad. What made the show funny was knowing the history of the players.
Many of the HG are together quite a bit after their seasons doing charity events. I believe that is how Jesse K. and Elizabeth hooked up. I think they have been dating for several months. She was really pathetic....does anyone remember Glenn Close and "Fatal Attraction"?? I would like to see Kiptyn and Tenley really commit to each other. I think they have the same values and are both looking for love. I think the question is...will Gia cheat on her boyfriend with Wes?? The previews seem to indicate that.
Does anyone remember....wasn't Natalie the girl on Jake's season that was pretty full of herself and when she was let go talked about how she had plenty of guys waiting at home for her and Jake couldn't give her the material things she was used to?

Glad to have you all here to talk to about this show!

ML said...

Hola! My name is ML and I do heartily enjoy some blatantly trash tv, like, but not limited to, the Bachelor Pad. Mostly though, I love chatting with all of you on this great forum we have here on Jackie's blog. Otherwise my only option would be to chat with my two cats, and while we have lots of converstaions, they run from the room when Rachel laughs and are thoroughly disgusted by Matt with his hands constantly in his pants. My female cat does find Britney very funny, however she does not understand why people call her 'catty' like it's something negative. So because of all you people, I will continue to watch so I can chat.

Sasha your secret is safe with me, and I hope for the same. Joyce, I, too felt the Fatal Attraction similarity, hence my earlier reference to potential bunny violence, but by Michelle. Elizabeth could easily be heading down the bunny trail, too. I think that woman worships herself, and no one will be able to meet her expectations, nor match her own self devotion.

If Gia cheats on her boyfriend (or even someone she just once winked at on the street) with Wes, that says a lot about her judgement. It's not like Jillian who didn't know about Wes. Gia is doing it with eyes wide open.
ML

ML said...

Oh my, the trash tv has eroded my brain. I realize my last post referenced the BB house! While that is all true, my kitties had no reaction to the Bachelor Pad, so they would be very poor blog company indeed.
ML
my wv is coxyh- most of the Bachelor Pad guys and gals are quite coxyh.

Sydney said...

I'm glad I have you all here to talk about the show with too. I have to write to Joy N and see if she is going to watch too.

for those confessing to being reality TV addicts (um, I think that was all of us,lol) I have an announcement.

I read a few pages of a book last night. Yes, I know, I've fallen off the wagon of all bottom feeding all the time.

I used to watch deep art films, foreign, independent and noir. I used to only read literature, and books about things like quantum physics (no kidding).

Though I subscribed to the Wall Street Journal and the New Yorker (and canceled Star Magazine) in an attempt to put my brains back into my head, I still reach for Us and People... and am checking this site with great glee to see what you all have to say. I still have to watch the last hour of the show that I recorded...

Sydney said...

ML said:

Craig isn't dangerous, he's just nothing. Him thinking he can win Elizabeth over is as deluded as she is making him try.

Astute!

Sasha, of COURSE your secret's safe with us. We stick together, lol.

I'm with you ML, WES stay away from Gia.

Yes Nana, the previews seem to point to him winning her over. PLEASE GIA don't fall for it... and you have a boyfriend too! That guy must be really charming or something because I don't see how he gets such interest (Jillian then Gia) at ALL. I mean just his ride home in the limo on Jillian's season would show what he's made of. The comment, only guy in history to make it to the F4 with a girlfriend... can't say that the producers edited him to look like the villian character like he has said on all his clean-up press post show.

dla said...

ML said "Elizabeth could easily be heading down the bunny trail, too."

OMG, that one made me LOL, literally!! Thanks for the giggle!

Sydney, in the beginning years of reality TV, I firmly boycotted all shows and didn't watch any of them... Look at me now! ;)

ML said...

I do not see the attraction to Wes on any level.

Sydney you hit the nail on the head regarding literary magazines and other intellectual pursuits when you said "(I)am checking this site with great glee to see what you all have to say." That is me exactly these days haha.
ML

Sasha said...

Thanks...what a relief!! I knew I could count on you guys to keep my secret safe. Of course I would never betray you, either.

I have to admit I'm not completely up on everyone's name on the Pad because I've only been watching Bachelor/ette for a few seasons but I'm sure I'll catch up. And to think, I'd almost sworn off watching any of it after Jason and then the Jake/Vienna debacle. Luckily (?) I tend to persevere LOL.

Still the best part is coming here and reading your posts! Best 'til next week,
Sasha

Sydney said...

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Sahsa, I know I swore it off for about three seasons in a row... the one before Jason's -- I did NOT like Deanna. But I watched the first show to see what it would offer, and the guys or something other than her was interesting enough to get thru it, though I didn't hang on it.

And then I DID like Jason, at first. Thought he might be one of the ones to be sincere... and since he's married, I guess you could call it a Bachelor success story but, meh to Mesnick.

I was very surprised that Ali's season turned out to be decent. And from a bunch of not so hot guys, she ended up with a great F4 or 5 and two hotties in the end. I am in denial about Frank altogether.

The gossip rags have pulled up pics of her with bongs and silly teen girl diary like notes... ugh, who hasn't got some of that. It would suck to have my little diaries or college photos from parties exposed to the world.........

ML said...

So from a much earlier season remember Byron the professional sports fisherman who chose Mary the woman from Bob's season? She's been arrested agian. This time DUI. Previously she was arrested for battery a couple times (of Byron at least once I think). So Jake and Vienna were not the only pairing that ended badly.
ML

Sydney said...

OMG, she's been arrested again? I think that makes three times for her. She can't keep saying it's because she's a passion-in-her-blood latina.

Sydney said...

It's Bachelor Pad time!!!

I'm going down to the gym (in my building) to watch it while on the treadmill, and I'm also TIVOing it so I will not be commenting much in the first half or so...

Talk to you all soon!

Sydney said...

What is Gia thinking??? Oh all of you STOP thinking with your loins!

Sydney said...

And the weatherman, taking the brunette from the other side then not giving her the rose... he can still pursue Gwen romantically, even if he doesn't know he's got zero chance with her. She would not be going home this week in any case. I can understand why he gave it to her, but then he shouldn't have revealed the plan to the brunettes.

Sasha said...

Sydney, best idea yet! Watching Bachelor Pad while using the treadmill makes it seem so productive.

Yes, I confess I watched it again but I'm not sure I'll last. I probably will because it's summer and I only have the most basic cable you can get and well, I've become an addict of sorts. There, I said it. LOL

I'll let you know if I come up with someone I'd root for but so far, no one moves me in that direction. Oh well. Have a great week, all!

dla said...

Oh my! This is beginning to take on traits of Mean Girls in high school... The "outsiders"?? Really???

I so wish I could say that I won't watch, but I know I will... Always ready for mindless entertainment on Monday nights, so I know I will be there! Def talking to the TV, but, still...

Just one bad decision followed by another and then another last night... Well, I guess we can say that they weren't predictable in a predictable sort of way.

Looks like a lot of tears and drama next week... Ugh. :)

ML said...

Hi Sydney, dla, Sasha. I missed the show but watched it online finally. I can't believe I did that just to watch people puke and get bullied by Elizabeth. Now I know why she's on this show. She is so awful I'm sure she has absolutely no friends and went on the show to meet someone, anyone. Exactly who died and made her Queen? I never saw Mean Girls but I'm sure just from the title it fits her.

As Elizabeth has appointed herself Queen for the girls, David seems to think he runs the show for the boys. He definitely was just using Jessie. Her goodbye in the limo is sad; she thinks there may be some romantic future with him. What is it with these attractive and seemingly or at least somewhat inteligent women that they fall for these scumbag guys.

Look at Gia. In the previews she's talking about Wes as being so talented so wonderful he's better than Shakespeare? He's singing the same song from Jillian's season to her and she acts as though it was written for her. Did she not watch that season and see him? No, we don't have it all wrong about him. Girlfriend back home or not, he is scum of the earth and not the least bit talented (nor attractive). YUCK! In all this time he couldn't have a second or different song to serenade her? Even if it was a cover of someone else's? Gia's guy back home must be an even bigger jerk/loser if she thinks Wes is all that. Wow I'm on a roll.

Although I don't like cliques, Nikki sure did the 'outsider' group in, didn't she? And for what? I'm sure Kypton wouldn't hesitate to oust her. She just seems so insecure and ill-equipped for these kinds of shows. Is she that desperate? I don't understand why she's there.

I'm sure I have more to say about the others but no more time right now.

ML
my wv is atyphy- I think my brain will atyphy (atrophy) if I continue to watch this garbage. Brain atrophy here I come!

Sydney said...

Oh please don't threaten to leave now due to not wanting to see junk programming, lol. Please. I'm here to the bitter end... only 4 eps to go.

That said, the new Project Runway is 90 minutes and really is very good. I have to get over there to comment. Are any of you watching?

I suspected they put something into the pie filling to nauseate everyone. Either that or these people eat like birds if it were making so many of them throw up just to eat the equivalent of two or three pieces (they started retching before they were half way thru...

I was amazed that Tenley allowed herself to be seen vomiting. It's such a paradox. PS: She reminds me of a version of Jennifer Aniston, looks wise-- anyone else?

ML said...

Oh Sydney I have no intention of leaving- did you see I said 'brain atrophy here I come'? If I'm here I will watch, trash or not. So I'm looking forward to tonight, but no more puking please.
ML

ML said...

Trash, trash, trash, and I'm lovin' it haha. First, I cannot stand Elizabeth. In the preview she told Jesse to kiss her a&& on elimination day and he'd be safe. Second, she practically devoured those men, kissing them like a barracuda. The men didn't like it apparently, and her spiiting and wiping her mouth after the weatherman was uncalled for. The guys should have done that to her.
ML

ML said...

Krisaly is not in the same league as the rest of them, not that that's a bad thing. She's just not an overt tramp, that's all.
ML

ML said...

I would expect nothing more from Natalie. That's who she is.
ML

ML said...

Ok so I'm trying to run out here every commercial to comment (obviously having a convo with myself). At least it avoids having one long post later. I feel sorry for Tenley. Kypton is not the pot of gold at the end of her rainbows.
And Natalie consoling her after her romp with David in Vegas-hysterical.
ML

Sydney said...

I just got home from the office at 9:30PM and now it's on TIvo. Dayum. Or I'd have been commenting along with you. We have to time ourselves ML, when you comment all thru I'm not here and vice versa.

Let's all try to do it next week?

Anyway, how is it that Tenley has fallen in with the insane crazy bitch stalker game player mean and cruel wrong color hair Elizabeth?

Sydney said...

wonder how that very nice pretty blonde woman that the weatherman gave the rose to the second show did in the kissing contest. She strikes me as being the way you described Natalie.

Nana from the NW said...

I don't get here to comment much but I am watching the show. I wonder if Gia went home and claimed she was a good girl and still loves her boyfriend? I bet after tonight's show they aren't still together! Poor Tenley...she is really acting desperate...she's been hanging out with Elizabeth too long! I really like Peyton but not with Jesse B. The things he said about her tonight is what he said about Natalie the first week.

Next week will be fun when they do the Q & A game...."who has the worst fake boobs"? LOL

meb said...

Kiptyn did say that he lied to Peyton, trying to get a rose tonight, that he does have feelings for Tenley, but that he can't show them, since he almost got voted off last week. Well, he could tell her that, and then they both could act like they're not a couple.

Gia is/was nuts. She liked Wes?? I guess he was nice to her, but only because none of the other girls made a play for him. He sealed his fate when he started threatening all the guys tonight to vote off Elizabeth instead of Gia. I'd be surprised if he didn't go home next week if he doesn't win the comp.

I thought Kovacs didn't want to be a "couple" with Eliz for the same reason Kiptyn didn't with Tenley. Well then, why does he keep hanging with her?

A boob comp next week?? Weird.

BTW.. I can't sleep, thus the hour.

my wv: geney... Geney, please send me the sandman!

ML said...

Sydney, I actually don't mind commenting to myself because I know you all will be around at some point. I absolutely love your name for Queen Elizabeth- ICBSGPMACWCHE- acronym, especially the 'wrong color hair'. I don't get what power she has over Kovacs, unless he's scared of the ICBS part. I would be, too.

Meb and Nana, Gia is one mixed up chick. I still can't get over her calling Wes 'a modern day Shakespeare only more talented and handsome.' Are we talking about the same Wes? It says a lot about her boyfriend back home if she would fall for Wes.

Did Peyton sleep with Jesse B. in the fantasy suite? I guess I'm a little surprised. Now with Natalie and David, there's no reason to even ask. I'm surprised she didn't jump him in the pool with Krisily and Nikki right there. It's almost like this show was designed around someone like her.
ML

Sasha said...

Hi All, I'm still watching, I just watched today, though. Gia...Wes...omg, what was she thinking?? I don't remember Elizabeth from before but I sure don't like her now!

I nominate Rachel for worst fake boobs...oh wait, wrong show. LOL

This show really is trash but here I am...and I'll watch 'til the end, too. Glad to know only 4 eps to go. :)

Sydney said...

DWTS is going to announce who the new cast is during Bachelor pad, so I guess the about confirms that Ali and Roberto are indeed going to be on it this season.

Sydney said...

Sasha, Elizabeth was the one who was on Jake's season who kept telling him he couldn't kiss her, but then would only talk about kissing and be 3 centimeters from his face. She was a dark brunette then. Does that ring a bell?

ML said...

I heard that about Roberto and Ali, too, Sydney. I sooooooo want to see Roberto dance, omg, I can feel it now. Ali, not so much. Roberto and Julianne (I know she's gone, but that would be good). Roberto and Edyta, get the fire hose and the censors out now. I think I need a cool drink, brb.
ML

Sasha said...

Thanks, Sydney. That does ring a bell but I guess the new haircolor threw me. I remember the brunette who played that game on Jake's season, just didn't match it up to Elizabeth. Hmmm, that was a clue/red flag right there. lol

I hadn't heard that about Ali and Roberto. I'm with you, ML, will love to see Roberto dance. Yum.

Sydney said...

I wish Julianne would just come back to the show. And I could see the Julianne and Roberto winning!

ML said...

Julianne and Derek are my favorites. Derek has the most incredible spins, and everything else he has and moves is pretty incredible, too. Same for Julianne.

I guess that means Roberto and Ali are still together. That's good news, especially for the Bachelorrete franchise.
ML

Sasha said...

I'm all for Julianne on the show, too. I loved watching her dance. Derek, too. He lives and breathes the dancing.

Yep, it appears Ali and Roberto are still together, at least according to the latest People mag blurb. Yes, I confess, reading People at the hairdresser and dr/dentist is my guilty pleasure :)

Sydney said...

OK Sasha, I have a SUBSCRIPTION to People and to Us to. I at least canceled Star, lol.

Sasha said...

LOL, Sydney. As part of my 'keep the clutter under control' I eliminated all mag subscriptions. Sooooo, I don't get People but that doesn't mean I wouldn't if I could LOL. Oh wait, I do get People updates via email. Not quite the same but fun, nevertheless.

dla said...

OK, ladies, lots to catch up on! Sorry I missed the party last week...

I am watching the Emmys and multi tasking here tonight. :)

Gia made me spit a few times... the "modern day Shakespeare" comment was the straw for me! lol

Sydney, I am in for the long haul... if I start to watch, something really really bad has to happen to make me quit in the middle!

Can't stand Elizabeth even more on this, and I totally disliked her on The Bach... twisted sister, that one!

As far as Roberto on DWTS, I am ALL IN!!!

Talk to you this week! :)

ML said...

Yay, tonight is Trash TV night! I shall be watching, hoping Elizabeth gets dumped by both Kovacs and her pad buddies. Probably won't be able to comment til after though.

Sydney said...

OOOh, This date with cute Jessie and Peyton is going south fast!

Sydney said...

gonna announce the cast of DWTS during Bachelor Pad? What does that say about the demographics they think watches?

Oh barf, really? Bristol Palin?

Sydney said...

maybe it's the editing but the entire last 45 minutes of this show has been about who is votingfor whom and who feels safe and who doesn't and then all they set you up for changes...

Kovacs, KhrisalyI, Wes, Elizabeth... I feel like they're going a little Sybil on me here....

Sydney said...

Pouty Freakin Elizabeth. Oh wait, her name was called.

Melissa's make up looks like it could have been blended better or something -- just doesn't look like herself, but more like someone from that old TV show Dallas...

ML said...

I wasn't able to watch it; too much stuff going on here. I hope I can watch it online tomorrow sometime, and then I' sure to have some scathing comments about our pad guys and gals. I missed the announcement about the dancing, too. Bristol Palin? In the words of my teenage daughter, 'is that who they think a STAR is?' Who are the guys?
ML

ML said...

You didn't let any spoilers out in your comments Sydney, and my wv was 'canner'. So did the pad guys wise up about Elizabeth and canner?
ML

ML said...

So I fianlly watched it at the crack of dawn here. For the most part, boring I must say, except for the competition. I guess Elizabeth got her comeuppance tonight. Unless it's true love, Kovacs probably made a nice guy error in that comp. He knew first hand (hahaha pun intended) that Elizabeth's fake boobs were obviously the worst. I think she showed she may actually be a bit human, but in the long run, I still think she will not be good for him.

I did not like Dave in his season, and I still don't like him. Yes, he's in it to win it, but he called Natalie always a bridesmaid and dumb. She should realize that again, in the long run, he's just using her. He also blatantly used Krisily for a vote. She just never fit in socially with this group. I do not want him to win anything.

I am glad things seem to be working out for Tenley and Kiptyn. Gosh I just never know how to spell his name. As I've said before, with made up names like Tenley and Kiptyn, they deserve each other. Who else would want them? They sound like something you'd call your dog lol.

Wes did not play the game smart. He realized he was an island of one, but kept on deliberately provoking the other guys, who already had the girls' ear. If you only saw this show, you might think he was an upstanding guy. Of course we all know what a low-life he really is. So in the end, he garners no sympathy from me.

Although I am happy Peyton didn't gratuitously sleep with Jesse B. again, therein lies the problem. It would have been AGAIN! I realize, therefore, that it really wasn't a matter of morals, but rather rose possession. Will Jesse remain loyal to keeping her in the game later on without the sexual seal?

The remaining three women, Gwen, Nikki, and Ashley are all non-entities. I foresee them all gone next week when they pare the ladies down. No real loss, they add nothing to the show.

Overall, this show became too strageic (if you can call it that at all) too fast. It's SUPPOSED to be trash. Why would you want strategic trash? As with BB, talking with y'all about it is more fun than the watching the show.
ML

ML said...

I am so disappointed. I read the cast of DWTS. Florence Henderson is really the only one I would have wanted to see, although she unfortunately looks all botoxed up and like a clown. I do not understand why people don't realize that they don't look younger or better when they do these things to themselves. What happened to just aging gracefully, or just aging for that matter?
ML

Sasha said...

IMHO "DWTS" is becoming a misnomer very quickly. Stars?? Not hardly.

Anyway, Bachelor Pad...I have to agree with you ML, too much strategy too fast. Kind of surprising LOL.

I have to say I couldn't blame Krisily for being angry and pretty much outing what happened with her. However, I don't think it will make much difference because she wasn't well liked anyway. I'm all for honest and up front but I kind of like to add in some tact with that, something she does not do.

And Wes, well I too have little sympathy for him because he's shown his true colors before. He was right about the couples but he was pretty much saying 'vote me off' with his rants and threats.

If I weren't so stubborn (I like to call it 'persistent' lol) I'd stop watching...but I am that stubborn :) See you next week.

ML said...

Yes, see you next week, but please stop back over the week just in case something comes up taht we must comment on lol. Btw, no Roberto on DWTS. :(((((((((
ML

ML said...

My sad face got dismembered!
:(((((((((((((((((((((
ML

Sasha said...

Oh ML, sorry about your sad face lol. I can't help myself, I do stop back here during the week in case there're any new comments. I'm so TV addicted :)

Very sad no Roberto. I have to say there are no great "stars" I may feel compelled to watch.

Sydney said...

Hello, my name is Sydney, and I stop back here mid-week for comments too. In fact I think we have a nice crew here, a chat blog within a chat blog. I would go so far to suggest we comment here on DWTS, but I know Jackie will put up a place for that. But are you ALL watching that? Or do we lose some of you?

I thought the line up was really disappointing. I mean Jennifer Gray is OK, and Flo Henderson is fine -- now must laser focus on her forehead to see the botox you mention, ML, lol.

But I was pretty disheartened to hear Bristol Palin would be on. That in itself made me think I might not be able to watch it. Brandi I hear can't dance well at all... Hasselhoff? Almost gives D-list new meaning.

And for the first time, I don't know who someone is -- is he a rapper I think they said? Know who I mean?

Oddly, he Situation has some interest for me. I want to see if his Italian blood gives him rhythm and if Karina who is so sharp and pouty will be like boot camp and make a man of him (which he NEEDS).

Sydney said...

ML Said:
Why would you want strategic trash?


ROFLMAO!

Sasha said...

I agree, nice little crew here. I'm not sure about DWTS this time around. I do love to watch the dancing but this season will not be for the "stars", that's for sure. If I watch, I definitely will want to see all of your comments and quite probably want to add my own 2 cents :)

And count me in for a big LOL at "strategic trash" as well.

Nana from the NW said...
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Nana from the NW said...

Well, let's see......which reality show do I want to talk about first???

DWTS--I agree about the line-up...are these people "stars"?? The young rapper is a boy about 16-18 yrs. old who is on a Disney show called That's So Raven. Why do I know this....granddaughters! He appears to be a bit out of shape so Lacey(?) will have her work cut out for her. Never liked Hasselhoff or Margaret Cho. Rick Fox will be nice to look at and Kurt Warner is known to be a really nice guy and may get the votes. The Situation is known for his abs....wonder how Karina will choregraph a waltz with his shirt off! In an interview Brandy seems to have quite a crush on Maxs. Florence H. is 76!! Corky will have to do some careful choregraphy because her body won't move like the others. Audrina P. I hadn't heard of except some naked photos from a few years ago. Jennifer G....watch the close-ups she has definitely had some work done but Derek could make her a contender. Awwwww, and Bristol....looking for a way to get out from under Mamma Palin...we'll see and where is baby Tripp??

Bachelor Pad....strategic trash!!! Probably the best description I have ever seen!! LOL
I agree with pretty much everything you all have said. Wes gets no sympathy from me...he's a sleaze. I'm dissappointed in Dave. I liked him on The Bachelorette. Kovacs and Elizabeth...ugh! I like Peyton and glad she refused the overnight. I have no doubt that Jesse would not have given her the rose if he had waited till later in the date...he's like a frat boy...it's all about hook-ups. I do like Tenley and Kyptyn but she sure is needy! I think Ashley and Nikki are the next to go...no real connection to anyone.

I must admit that I am having fun watching the show...I'm not emotionally attached to anyone so I don't care who gets booted! It has been a nice filler until the fall season starts.

BTW--PLEASE do not bring Chris L. back as The Bachelor!! I want someone new!

Sorry for the long post....:)

meb said...

I'm enjoying Bachelor Pad. I don't get over here enough to comment. When I'm over at Jackie's BB for comments, I forget to come here until after I've logged off. Yes, it's too much trouble to log back on... but I just remembered so here I am.

I think it will be more fun to watch, once all the singles are gone. The fighting and strategical moves (yes I used a form of the word strategy ML :) ) will be fun to watch.

Think about it if Elizabeth leaves and Kovacs stays. Can you imagine her on the outside looking in. She'll never handle it. They'll have her on a stretcher within days of her eviction. They might as well just take her to the funny farm right out of the limousine.

Why is Gwen still there... so much older than the guys, how was she supposed to find love in the house? I mean, even Kovacs has said he's decided that finding love, which he has with Elizabeth, is more important than the money. They should take him to the FF with her cause he'll have a mess on his hands if he ends up with her in real life.

Kiptyn and Tenley will be the first couple to go, since I think she's weak and he can't work both the women and the men in trying to stay.

Anyway... gone on long enough. Anxious to see how they'll handle the extra women in the house during evictions.

Oh..not happy with DWTS contestants.. and sorry Nana, but think Chris L. has already been signed as the Bachelor... Yuck!

dla said...

Hello all! Happy almost Labor Day!

Excited to see how things shake out on the next show... they are a hot mess, but I must admit I am enjoying their hot mess on some twisted personal level. It is sort of like a real life soap opera playing out before us in real time... :)

DWTS announcement was soooo disappointing to me! When they announced Bristol Palin, that was it for me - and not in a good way. I will watch, as I always do, but talk about D list... Is there an E or F list?!? lol I must admit that I am somewhat intrigued to see what Jennifer Grey can bring, and I have loved Rick Fox for years, so that could be entertaining. Hoping that Bristol, Audrina, the Situation leave early on as I have zero interest in any of them and they will be "noise" if they stay, IMHO.

Have a great remainder of the holiday weekend and looking forward to everyone's comments! :)

ML said...

Love our little sub-group here. Meb, so true about Kovacs and Elizabeth, poor guy. What is it about nut cases with unnaturally dyed hair and boob jobs that these hunks fall so hard for? (Think poor Brendon with Rachel, too.)

Oh Nana, I fear we shall cry ourselves to sleep watching Chris L. and his story unfold again on the Bachelor. I'm sure I'll probably still show up for nap time though.

Sadly Sydney and Sasha, there are at least a few DWTS contestants I have never heard of. I'm not sure about 'D' List; is there an 'F' list maybe we don't know about?
ML

ML said...

Haha dla, I had been in the middle of my comment (in the middle of the night as usual) and got pulled away for a long time, but obviously great minds think alike! (E and F list-almost exactly the same!) How old is Jennifer Grey now? She is paired with Derek someone said? Despite the stars, or lack thereof, I would still watch just to see Derek move..... anything.
ML