Wednesday, September 11, 2019

BB21: Power of Veto Show Blog Party - Sept. 11


I'm going to have to bail on you again tonight. People who read my FB can fill you in on what's going on with me -- extreme troubles typing, please update on show in comments. 

112 comments:

Brandi said...

Please get better soon. Praying for you

Joe in NY said...

Hope you feel better

Petals said...

~*~*~* SPLASH ~*~*~*

Hi everyone! I brought some Mint Tea for Jackie... and Stella!

tbc said...

Hi all!
Feel better, Jackie!! Thanks for setting up the post. Get some rest!!

Nickelpeed said...

Hoping you'll start feeling better, Jackie.

Hi everyone. I'll be in and out. I'm also watching the AGT.

Petals said...

wow...NOW they know that Tommy is capable of incredible deception.

Joe in NY said...

Hi folks

Petals said...

JOOOOOEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe in NY said...

Honestly, I'm kind of okay with anyone winning. I do think Michie has earned it. He really turned it around from when everyone wanted him out early. And he is just killing comps. But there's really no one in the Final 5 that I would despise winning.

Jenna G said...

Hi guys, just popping in before the game starts. So sorry to hear your so sick Jackie, thanks for getting us started. Hope & pray that you'll be ok soon.

Cheryl in NC said...

Feel better and take it easy Jackie.Hey everyone

Petals said...

Cliff is my fave b/c he is the "old" guy. I don't want Holly to win, just...because. Nicole is the sentimental underdog for many, but not me.

tbc said...

The Jack Ass is perfect

monty924 said...

Jackie, please take good care of yourself. We all miss you here.

Petals said...

HI everyone I missed *waving*

monty924 said...

Sorry, hi everyone...

Joe in NY said...

I think Michie is actually pretty smart.

monty924 said...

Tommy gets no boost on the zipline, LOL

monty924 said...

Agree with you Joe on your 8:12 and 8:17 comments

Joe in NY said...

Michie really should be more worried about Nicole winning the veto. If Nicole wins and takes down Cliff, then Holly has to go up and Michie can't protect her.

Brandi said...

So frustrated by these feed blocks why would they put a relationship in the house that caused the feeds to be blocked every time they talk about it. They also block when they talk about the “yeller” I don’t think they have blocked for that before

monty924 said...

Brandi, they've always blocked for the wall yellers.

Joe in NY said...

Cliff using same strategy as Michie. LOL!

VickieInVA said...

Hey y'all. I'm just a lurker for many seasons. I enjoy and appreciate all y'all. Tonight I'm here because I'm concerned for our Jackie and want to let her know my thoughts and prayers are with her. Please get well soon, girl! Sending you light, love, and healing energy.

Sharon N said...

Hi all... sorry you are still so sick Jackie!

I'd be ok with any 4 of the 5 remaining... any except Holly.

monty924 said...

Go Nicole!!!

Cheryl in NC said...

I agree with you Joe about Jackson being smarter than most thought

Petals said...

I always want a FAN to win over a recruit (or this season, a Love Island reject)

Jackie S. said...

It seems the aunt withdrew her release. And outside shouters and banner planes mentions have always been blocked

Brandi said...

I know they block when it happens I didn’t think they went to fish when they talked about them. At least I don’t remember it that way. Maybe I’m just annoyed about all the other blocks

monty924 said...

Lol @ Nicole on the 'NO COMMENT' :)))

monty924 said...

Good to see you pop in, Jackie!!

Jackie S. said...

Takes me five minutes to type a sentence

monty924 said...

She didn't just win it... she crushed that comp

Cheryl in NC said...

Nicole killed it

Joe in NY said...

Aw, Jackie... :(

Joe in NY said...

I'm surprised Michie doesn't see the risk to Holly

Petals said...

GET BACK IN BED, JAX !

monty924 said...

Jackie, just rest up and take good care of yourself. I hope Vincent is being a very good boy for you and giving you lots of shoulder purrs!!!

Nickelpeed said...

Hi Jackie, keep a low profile, we want you to heal.

Petals said...

Because of YOUR awesome updates, we already know what happened/happens during this show. So please just stay hydrated & medicated. I'm sure Vincent is aware that his momma is under-the-weather.

tbc said...

Jackie, so glad to see you here! However, get back to bed!!! I brought you chicken soup. ❤️

CherryPie said...

I really hope u are better real soon...prayers to u!

monty924 said...

Joe, Michie used the same strategy because Cliff told them all *the four* in the HOH the night before that he would be using that strategy and Michie liked it.

Cheryl in NC said...

it's not a backdoor....ugghhhhh

monty924 said...

It's NOT a BACKDOOR!!! People, stop using that term incorrectly!!!

monty924 said...

JINX Cheryl

tbc said...

Savor the block, Holly

monty924 said...

Whooo boy

Cheryl in NC said...

I think he told her that scenario so she would freak out...lol

monty924 said...

Lol, tbc. Really!!!

Cheryl in NC said...

lol Monty ..right I hate when they use terms incorrectly

monty924 said...

Cheryl, they've overused the backdoor for so long now that it's lost the true meaning of it. With the random veto draw, there is rarely ever a true back door anymore.

Joe in NY said...

Well, it's SORT OF a backdoor. It is what Nicole wanted going back to the HOH competition. IT's just that the HOH (Michie) wasn't in on it. LOL

Jenna G said...

So true

monty924 said...

NOPE, Joe. Wrong! The "backdoor" was created by Nakomis but they called it the 6-finger plan. You nom two pawns, make sure your target doesn't play in veto, then use the veto to take one nom down and put up your real target who had no opportunity to save themselves. Holly played in the veto.

Joe in NY said...

Frankly, I'm not sure evicting Holly is really in Cliff and Nicole's best interest unless they feel they can trust Tommy to be a threesome with them. Otherwise, it's still 2 against 2 and Holly/Cliff have to balance "The Big Move" against "Loyalty" and jury management. I think it's kind of a coin toss.

Final 4, the HOH winner controls the eviction. So it really isn't that important that Michie can't play in the HOH. Even if Nicole or Cliff win HOH, they can't protect the other one without the Veto.

monty924 said...

Yep, Nicole or Cliff need to win veto at final 4 to guarantee that they go to final 3. I still think Michie would take them and evict Tommy, but I'm not sure about TOmmy. He's had it out for Cliff the entire game.

Nickelpeed said...

Is the talk saying Holly tomorrow night?

I agree with you, Joe. I think Michie is much smarter than he lets on.

I still swear, if they keep Tommy, he could take it all. Even if they rat him out, he still liked more than Michie. They are hoping if they get rid of Holly and Michie wins, he HAS to take one of them. They believe enough dislike Michie and they'll be upset to hear that Tommy and Christie knew each other, they'll get the win. We'll see.

Cheryl in NC said...

If they keep Tommy it's a half million dollar mistake in my opinion. I don't see how Nicole doesn't get that.

monty924 said...

Penny, anyone of Tommy, Cliff, Michie or Nicole could win it all. I agree with Sharon that Holly cannot. It really is a 50/50 toss up. I can see reasons for getting rid of Holly or Tommy.

Joe in NY said...

Nope, Monty, I remain right. I said "sort of" LOL

So, you are saying that you can't have a backdoor past Final 7? And you can't have a backdoor if the target gets picked to play in the Veto? I think that's too narrow a definition. You can't control who plays in the Veto which means you only ever get an accidental backdoor.

I stand by a backdoor is a plan to target someone not originally nominated. The only reason I think this doesn't count is because the HOH wasn't targeting someone who is not the nominee.

Nickelpeed said...

You are right, Monty, Nakomis created the "backdoor". I love their name, six finger plan. How funny.

monty924 said...

Cheryl, they don't know what we know out here and that is that Tommy has a lock on the jury house because it's all Gr8ful.

monty924 said...

He really doesn't but it's close

Joe in NY said...

Taking Tommy is risky. On the other hand: no risk, no reward. OF those people, if I want to win, I think I want to be sitting next to Holly for sure and maybe Michie second. Michie has the resume, but a bitter jury.

Nickelpeed said...

Thanks, Monty. I still believe Nicole and Cliff are hoping the jury really dislikes Michie; and if they tell on Tommy, people will dislike him, too. Therefore voting for them.'

I do not think it'll work. If Tommy stays, they'll vote for him.

Joe in NY said...

How come we never see Nakomis come back? She has to be on the short list of best BB players ever but I don't recall seeing her in forever.

monty924 said...

Lol, Joe. Agree to disagree :)))

Thanks Jackie for the show post tonight and continue to get better. HUGS

Petals said...

No idea what will happen tomorrow...

Jackie - feel better! Let us know if we can do anything...at all!

Never Forget 9/11/2001

XOXOX

monty924 said...

Not since All-Stars, Joe!

Nickelpeed said...

See everyone tomorrow night. It'll be interesting.

Bill Cornelius said...

If Cliff and Nicole keep Holly neither of them deserve to win.

Nickelpeed said...

Stay well, Jackie.

The moleman said...

Not the best campaign by holly
L

Anonymous said...

Sorry you are so unwell Jackie. Hope rest and meds are doing their job and you feel better soon.

ChicMc

Brandi said...

So the rumor is next season will be an all star there is promo with Julie wearing a Paul type leather jacket with an all star patch or pin on the collar and other patches to represent other past house guests. So we will see

Sharon N said...

Gawd, please.
Anyone but Paul... or Rachel.

Anonymous said...

prayin for you Jackieeeeeeeeeeeeeee

monty924 said...
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monty924 said...

A little bit of Real World BB history. For those of you who have the feeds. Go back to S2 and watch the second to last episode. It aired on 9/18/01... when it was down to the final 3 and BB called first Monica then all of them in to the DR on 9/11 to let them know what had happened. Monica ("It's Awwnn") lost her cousin who worked in the Twin Towers. It's a somber view!

God BLESS the USA ♥

Brandi said...

Sharon that’s exactly what I was thing. No Paul no Racheal and no Kristin the toe sucker. But supposedly one of the patches was the logo for Cody Callafuries soccer team. And I am pretty positive I spelled that wrong

monty924 said...

If it's an All-Star Season, I'm all in on it. We've been begging for one since S10 through S18 and up to now. I want another one. S7 was fun. Bring back Paul, bring back anyone we didn't like, it will still be great BB. jmo :)))

monty924 said...

Stick with Nicole Cliff!!! She has a better chance of winning the mental Part 2 HOH than Holly or Tommy. At least, I think so unless they do a crap shoot like S11 (loved Jordan beating Natalie in the rolly ball comp) or the face morph thing in S12. I feel bad for Cliff because he's between a rock and a hard place (no, that isn't a Jacksonism) with his vote. :((

Brandi said...

Jackson just told Holly I will lie to Cliff and Nicole’s face as far as I’m concerned the broke the deal by even considering voting you out. Then he went to Cliff and lied to his face and Cliff is buying it all.

The moleman said...

Its Wednesday night and Nicole is being wishy washy again i really don't see whats so special about nicole and cliff they are not good players

chrob61 said...

Get well soon Jackie!

The moleman said...

If holly can get out of this she will probably win the game!

Brandi said...

Jackson eavesdropped on Cliff, Nicole and Tommy in the havenot room and then later went down and asked cliff and Nicole if Tommy offered the throw the HOH to them and that Tommy is going after Jackson. Nicole said why do you ask. He said Tommy I’d trying to play both sides again and told me he was going to lie to y’all and work with me. Nicole flipped out and left the room once she calmed down Cliff said Jackson may be blowing smoke but he sure had a lot of details. Nicole wanted to have a house meeting Jackson begged her to wait so they could have a good night. Which only made her suspicious. Holly Isco concerned that at the meeting tomorrow they will see Tommy and Jackson fighting and think get rid of Holly since those two are now mad at each other

The moleman said...

Michie is playing this so well but a house meeting could be disastrous!

Petals said...

Thanks for the updates Brandi! Looks like all of them are gaming to the very end.

The moleman said...

He may be a racist but he is a good player!

CherryPie said...

My first instinct was out Holly but they have to remember that Christie is campaigning in jury house for Tommy and holly would do same for Jackson so its a real big deal for Nicole and Cliff to think hard on who to vote out. I think they should split vote and make michie be the one to decide who goes and then if its Tommy gone he could talk up Nicole and Cliff for jury votes and if it holly then she can be mad at Jackson and maybe Nicole and.Cliff would have a chance against Tommy. Jmo

The moleman said...

Michie would keep holly i think that goes without saying so why would they split the vote that would make Nicole a huge target for holly and as it looks like now cliffs the next target

The moleman said...

Thats the way they should go they are making the right move for the wrong reasons and they are defenetly not good players only difference is that cliff will be targeted first now because he was considering betraying michie!

Brandi said...

They were fixing to have a house meeting just now but then it went to fish

The moleman said...

Ya they might flip flop again quite a few times today wouldn't suprise me especially with the players were dealing with there not some of the all time greats you know!

Brandi said...

After last night I think Tommy is the best option to get them to final three. Jackson is saying since they even considered it all deals are off but I still thinks he takes them over Tommy to a final 3 and Tommy will take them over Jackson the odds of being able to take out Jackson next week when playing against him and Holly are slim. I know a perfect final three for them would be with Holly but you have to get past Jackson to get there and no matter what they say now they will take each other.

Also super mad Jacksongot away with using production last night. He set up this entire scene where he acts like he was talking to Tommyand Tommy was spilling everything to him. Then he comes into RV and says oh I just got called to the dr didn’t y’all hear it. They said no then he went and stood in the storage room and acted like he was in the dr. He comes back in the rev and Cliff says do you think we are all getting called and he was like no it was a singular incident with me and Tommy and then drops the lie. I think that is clearly using production

Sharon N said...

Brandi,

I think it would only be using production if he HAD actually gone to the DR and then talked about anything said in there. In that case, I'm sure they would have called him out. Just saying he went to DR doesn't mean much... other than he lied about his 'location' at the time.

However, it IS interesting that Production stopped the feeds just as Nicole was calling a house meeting. I know Prod. does usually stop the feeds for the Thursday rehearsal (about this time), but with all that's happening, I can't help wonder if Prod. is planning to use some of the House Meeting for the show tonight or on Sunday...especially if it affects the outcome of what "was" planned... or if brings on a huge blow-up. Jackson did NOT want a house meeting!!




SusanS. said...

Does anyone know if Jackson or Holly has told Nicole or Cliff about Tommy knowing Christie?

Sharon N said...

Susan,

Tommy actually told Cliff/Nicole about knowing Christie. Not that it mattered because they both knew already. Cliff heard the wall yeller a few weeks ago, so he knew from that and probably told Nicole... unless she also heard it at the time.

With that said, Jackson/Holly did tell Nicole/Cliff... after Tommy had already spilled the beans. That had been their plan, but seemed (to me) to be a silly plan to wait for Tommy to tell first.

In any case, they didn't seem to really care that Tommy knew Christie prior to the house. Maybe because they didn't realize how how many years it was, how close they 'were' during that time, or how much Christie could affect the outcome of the game.



The moleman said...

Michie may have used production but the way he set tommy up was brilliant i think he may be able to save holly because he knows that cliff and Nicole arent the best players which is why he chose them for f4 because they would be easy to beat!

Sharon N said...

It's easy for us to know what they should do. We have inside information from the feeds and watching everyone. However, their information is limited.

It wasn't just this HOH that the HOHs were telling the next 'victim' (on Wednesdays), it was the theme throughout the summer. HGs got used to the idea that this was the "house" system (kinda like Taco Tuesday). If that hadn't been the case, then Nicole/Cliff would probably not have fallen into the trap of letting Holly know she "might" be in jeopardy. There wouldn't have been any funny-business and Jackson/Holly would have been surprised when the vote happened.

Before teeing off Jackson, it was a toss-up who should have gone. In the end, Tommy would have the Jury votes, but played right (through our eyes), Jackson/Tommy would have wanted to go after each other and most likely, Tommy would have been evicted. Now though, Jackson has zero loyalty left and will evict Cliff... even if Holly stays.


monty924 said...

If you want a short recap/breakdown of what happened, Taran's update this morning is only 23 minutes. It's a great watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue-PtuIH0eI

It's gonna be a fun night. The HOH will play out on the Live Feeds after the show, so it should be hopping on here tonight!

Jackie, I hope you're feeling even a little better today. HUGS

monty924 said...

Brandi,
I don't consider that using Production. It was just a well planned out lie. That's legal in BB.

Brandi said...

The feeds never came back up usually on Thursday there is an hour or so.lockdown around noon and then another about 330 till the show is over but today it's been animals since 1150am California time

Brandi said...

Except for saying he got called to the dr immediately after makes it seem true. They always get called after something juicy happens

Sharon N said...

The feeds always go down for a couple of hours on Thursday... for rehearsal, body and hair beautifying, and to clean the house. About 11:15 PT, the feeds went down, just as Nicole was going to do a House Meeting, and it looks like the feeds never returned. At least, not that I can tell (since I don't have the feeds).

Could it be that the House Meeting was such a doozy that Production wanted to catch all they could for the show tonight? Or for a rehash on Sunday?

Sharon N said...

Thanks for the link Monty... I absolutely love Taran on RHAP.

Petals said...

Brandi - do you have a Schnauzer?

Brandi said...

I call her a Jack schit. She’s a Jack russel. Schitzu mix

Petals said...

Oh! OK, lol She looks a lil like my mini Schnauzer...