Monday, August 29, 2011

Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Monday Briefs 8/29


I'm still trying to catch up here as my Irene-related power outage set me back. I watched last night's show online today and have been going through Flashbacks on the live feeds. In some ways, I feel I lost a whole lot of nothing, but I can't guarantee I didn't miss something!

Here's all I have for you at this point:
  • In today's veto meeting, Rachel used the veto to save herself and Jordan.
  • Adam and Shelly went on the block.
  • While I thought with Shelly's house issues lately, she'd be the prime target of everyone, apparently she's not.
  • Kalia and Porsche are seriously considering an Adam vote.
  • From my Flashback tours, it really looks boring.
  • Rachel and Jordan exercised.
  • Some sunned.
  • Adam's reciting all the comps results.
  • Huh. I guess I didn't miss that much after all!

102 comments:

Purrbal said...

OKay what gets me with that is ... Jordan and Rachel would be the deciding votes... Kalia is ONE vote to their two so it is whomever THEY want to keep not what Kalia and Porche want... DUH and as pissy as Jordan is with Shelly I would not be surprised to see her go out the door.

dgmommie said...

In my opinion, Shelly would appear more loyal to Kalia and Porsche than Adam. Shelly voted with them for Jeff while Adam voted with Jordan and Rachel. So it's not surprising to me that they would chose to keep her over Adam. It doesn't really matter though, does it? It's how Rachel and Jordan choose to vote that matters, unless they split their vote. Their two against Kalia's one vote decides. Porsche doesn't vote except in a tie, right?

Kaye said...

I agree with Purrbal....Shelly is history!

Anonymous said...

There can't be a tie since only three people vote...Jordan, Tachel and Kalia

Anonymous said...

Porche doesn't vote unless there is a tie and it's no way Jordan and Rachel will vote to keep Shelly, and now if Adam stays and figure that Kalia wanted him out, he might jump ship again.

TerryinPA said...

Im hoping Adam sides back with J&R and then K and P are in for it.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone watch Hell's Kitchen?? Elise is like Rachel...she just WON'T GO AWAY!

Anonymous said...

Too funny. Jordan, Rachel and Kalia comparing "Shelly told us" notes!!

It's all coming out now... while Shelly was napping.

Sharon

Joe in NY said...

Emotions aside, I think Rachel & Jordan should consider evicting Adam. He's not loyal to them and he is marginally better at comps than Shelly. Rachel & Jordan are going to have to win their way to the finale so keeping the weakest players helps them. And while Shelly can't be trusted, I think she can be shamed by Jordan. The problem is neither Rachel or Jordan are that strategic or that passionless.

Witt said...

I still don't think that Jordan will keep Shelly, no matter what she says. Now that everyone in the house is comparing notes and knows what Shelly's been up to, I really don't think that Jorchel will keep her.

That will leave Adam in the breeze, caught between the two alliances, both of whom must realize he's been completely loyal to neither.

It will also leave two teams of women, both of whom have actually won competitions on their own merits, and not by someone "throwing" it!

I say it again...this week will be interesting! Wouldn't this be a great time for Jordan or Rachel to win HOH again?

Witt :)

Lynette Kenyon said...

I watch Hell's Kitchen, too. I was just saying that tonight. While I can't stand Rachel normally, I'm totally on board for her to stay a little longer. I'd rather see her get some money than some of these others and I am SO ready to see Shelley walk out! Would love to see Jeff's face if she's the one to walk into the jury house this week!

Anonymous said...

As we hampster-watchers speak, Rachel is in the process of trying to convince Jordan that it might be smarter to keep Shelly instead of Adam.

Rachel's reasoning is that they are ALL aware of Shelly's shenanigans and nobody will trust her anymore, and Adam is marginally better than Shelly at comps.

Jordan still wants Shelly gone, but willing to discuss it more.

Sharon

Witt said...

NOOOOOOOO, Jordan, NOOOOOOO!

Witt :)

Witt said...

Meant to say, "NOOOOOOO, Jordan, don't discuss it more! Just do it!"

WV: clomeo Ever seen the story Clomeo and Juliet?

Anonymous said...

I've been watching Dick at Nite and they have been debating the same stuff we have. I find it funny and informative although they can raunchy at times.......
http://www.rtvzone.com/VIDEO_DickAtNite.php

Anonymous said...

Ugh, turning off the feeds. Shelly is pretentious, know-it-all, lying, skeevy grinch face. She is a minipulative cry baby with bs as tears. IMO :p

Anonymous said...

can I order a spell check?

Nina said...

Adam can be swayed by the wind. He has not been loyal to anyone but himself in this game. While Shelly tells untruths to both sides, if it comes down to a jury vote, odds are better that Shelly is one of the top players still in the game.
Some fans are wanting Shelly to to be booted out this Thursday but it may not be the best game move for the remaining house guests. Adam has also played both sides and will do it again to save himself. Who wouldn't?

Anonymous said...

On the bright side, it looks like they are still leaning towards evicting Shelly because she's 'too sketchy.' They all talk about how Shelly is the cause of all the fights.

Rachel knew bad things were being said about her, but she would NOT be happy if she knew how horrible the cattiness really was... courtesy of Dani, Porsche, Kalia and Shelly.

Never know, the vote could still go either way, but I think it will still be Shelly.

Sharon

Anonymous said...

oh my goodness! Thanks Anon 11:50

I heard about Dick's show/website but I've never really checked it out.

LOL I'm afraid to now, it looks so good, I'll be there all night!

Anonymous said...

Nina, that's kind of Rachel's rationale too. I think she's a little afraid Adam might have been fake-losing most of the comps.

Lots for them to consider.

Adam has lost considerable weight while in the house, so he could still surprise us in one of the physical comps (not likely though). He's studied quite a bit too and I really think he may have thrown that before/after comp because he knew he didn't have to win it.

Shelly has some obvious (and real) physical problems, so even if she gets to the F-3, she'll never make it though the next physical challenge. And there's always a really hard one near the end (F3?). Come to think of it, she hasn't been too sharp with the mental comps either. Was she faking it?

Sharon

Anonymous said...

Very raunchy though

Ninboh said...

@joeInNY, I'm not sure if Adam being marginally better at comps (and it is indeed just barely) warrants voting him out. Adam won't vote out Jordan ever b/c he knows he could compete with her.

Shelly is such a manipulative shrew and plays the social game so much that even with so few hg's left, she could still reak havoc on one of the sides if left in the game.

And Shelly utterly despises Rachel. In no way, does it benefit Rachel to allow Shelly to play and give her a chance to win. Shelly will never give Rachel a jury vote so you may as well evict her. Adam could conceivably vote for Rachel in the end so why not carry him further.

Anonymous said...

Okay, now I'm addicted to Dick's site. Just the short bit that I've watch I feel more understood.

Don't get me wrong, I like Jackie's blog and will continue to be here. But so far the guys who have actually been in the house seem to agree with all the things I've been saying all along that people here have been beating me up for:

The show IS rigged, Jeff's a jerk, etc. etc....

~~~

Anonymous said...

When Dick first left, Jackie posted his reason why on her fb fan page, I thought it was a little rough around the edges (quality-wise) and Dick is very raunchy, but once you get used to it, its a very funny show and they make some really good points. For instance, a few weeks ago, one of the guests said that while in the jury house, they are NOT allowed to talk to each other and NOT allowed to talk game, only during the round table discussions for the cbs shows! Lots of strategy talk, too!

Anonymous said...

I just never know how a jury will vote...I often think I do, and they prove me wrong. They might think that all Shelly's lies and the fact that she was still there (if not voted out this time) was enough reason to show she was an intense player who deserved the win. Jordan is a sweetheart, but how many votes would she have to win, if she makes it that far? Adam being the ultimate floater might be the only one to go to the end with..since juries usually seem to vote on game play over personal feelings. Belle

RitaD said...

Ok wait..Shelly and Kalia on live feeds saying NYer's are rude?? Are you silly (insert bad word with ny accent here) kidding!!??

Anonymous said...

I am guessing Kahlia has had one bf. she's doment, wait, that is my word verif...she's weird

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to figure out if Kalia is fraught with insecurities. She never shuts the heck up with all the chatter and bragging.

Flippin' rude with the constant interruptions and one-up stories. She's done everything anyone else has ever done... but better. Anything anyone else has had/owned, she's had very much the same, but... better.

I can only imagine that all the HG's would like to ask BB for a large roll of duct tape!

Sharon

Anonymous said...

I'd almost rather listen to Shelly lie.

Anonymous said...

Tonight we get to listen to dog abuse stories on the feeds.. Kahlia is the worst...but Jordan had a story of her dog flying out the car window. What is wrong with these stoopid biatches. It's really hard to listen to their stories about their pets. PETA take them away!!!!!

chris said...

I say get the lying snake out of the house.
win hoh and then get k or p out.
I would not let shelly stay just knowing how satisfying for the jury house(jeff) to see her arrive.

Joe in NY said...

Oh anon 12:34 - Jeff is a jerk. I've always agreed with you on that.

As for the show being rigged: U.S. Code Section 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter V

Joe in NY said...

Strategically, it is still worth considering tossing Adam because he sucks so bad in comps. It's a bit of a coin toss since so many of the comps are random. But neither one of them can be viewed as loyal to Radan so there's not much reason to favor one over the other. Adam would fare better if the jury is bitter. Shelly would fare better if the jury hates floaters. They both suck at comps - who sucks worse is hard to say but maybe Adam. And I think Jordan could shame Shelly a little bit since Shelly does actually feel badly. You could see it in the way she behaved when alone. In groups she was all bombast, but when alone she was quiet and sad.

In the end, if Jordan or Rachel are going to get to the end they are going to have to win their way. They are not going to get a free ride. Even Rachel, whom you'd think is a shoe in for "player I'd most likely to sit next to with the jury", likely won't get a free ride due to the bitter, angry, mean nature of the Porsche crew.

RiseandShine said...

I'll agree that Jeff is a jerk.
I think they should vote to keep Shelly. She'd be a natural choice to bring to F3 since everyone on the jury could call her out about something and then be disgusted by her answers. The other person would win on Shelly-digust alone.

If Adam stays and then gets HOH, he'd probably lose another 10 lbs from the stress. I'd like to see him make it though.

Joe in NY said...

It is also interesting to consider the final 3. Suppose Radan get to the final 3 and Rachel won HOH. Would Rachel take Jordan to the final 2? That is a tough call. Jordan vs. Rachel should be a slam dunk for Jordan with the jury. If Rachel is to stand any shot she needs maybe Shelly or Adam opposite her as they've won nothing and accomplished little. The jury is going to be fairly split between Dani's crew and vets:

Brendon, Jeff so far
Dani

The house is currently 3-1/2 newbies and 2-1/2 vets. (I split Adam). So if it is 1 newbie and Rachel or Jordan are in the final 2, you've got 3-1/2 vets and 3-1/2 newbies. Adam kind of becomes the swing vote if he's on the jury, although Shelly might also vote Jordan but not Rachel as, I think, would Adam. If you take Adam to the final then the jury is 4 newbies and 3 vets. If Jordan and Rachel are in the finale, Jordan probably wins 6-1 as only Brendon likely votes for her. Rachel's only chance, slim as it is, would be to take a newbie to the final and hope Jordan and Jeff wiill still vote for her.

Cheryl said...

I think if Rachel, Jordan, Porsche or Kalia want to win in Final 2, they need to take either Shelly or Adam with them as I cannot picture the jury even considering voting for Shelly and they know Adam has floated the entire game.

sarah said...

i'm surprised you all think Jeff is a jerk. i went to a college in upstate NY where the ratio of guys to girls was 4:1 and let me tell you, if Jeff was the biggest jerk on campus college would have been much more pleasant. just bc he doesn't take crap from the "ladies" doesn't mean he's a jerk, it just means he treats everyone equally. the shame!!

with that being said, it was in Shelly's best interest to vote him out. my beef with her is that i REALLY liked her in the beginning. now i want to like her but she just won't own up to her actions. nothing drives me more nuts. i really wanted to see a newbie prevail, unfortunately the girls that are left aren't my type of people, i'll go with a Jordan win (but no Rachel please!)

ceemurph said...

Kalia: Shelly could definitely get to the end and say, "I never had to win a darn thing. All I had to do was make all of you take each other out."

THIS is the real reason to get Shelly out instead of Adam. No matter what your personal feeling toward her are, Shelly has the abaility to win this game over Jorchel and they have to get rid of her. Don't forget Dr. Will... Adam is the better/weaker player to take to F2. I would so much rather see R/J up there together but I don't see them taking each other as long as Adam is around.

But hey, there's still an opportunity for that! At this point it's all still irrelavent! They still have to will HOH!

Anonymous said...

In final two, Jordan will definately take Rachel but I'm not sure Rachel would take Jordan. Maybe she would because they only really have each other at this point. I guess it will all depend on how the next week plays out. It's important for them to win both the HOH and Veto.

ORKMommy said...

With all the talk of the hamsters, has anyone heard them talking about jury votes? If I were in the house I'd want Shelly sitting next to me at the end. Look at who the jury is/will be...

Jeff - Unsure: He will probably vote for game play because he seems level headed. Then again, he is very passionate and very smitten with Jordan so he might just vote emotionally.

Dani - Game Play: Say what you want about Dani but when it comes down to it, I think she'll vote for whomever played the game the best and not vote emotionally. We all know how she feels about her dad but she put her emotions aside during her season and to come back again this year.

Brendon - Game Play: Brendon is blind when it comes to Rachel but he's a very smart guy who also tends to be less emotional when it comes to the game.

Jordan - Emotional: Jordan will vote for who she likes best and who her friends are. Shelly doesn't have either of those criteria.

Rachel - Unsure: Rachel seems to be more about game play these days but who knows what will happen when she's in the jury house with her beloved. If he can get some pillow talk in, he may convince her to vote game play but she's also a very emotional person.

Adam - Game Play: Adam has floated the whole game and switched sides often but that seems to be his game plan and it's working so far. Being such a BB fan, I can't imagine him voting for anything BUT game play.

Kalia - Game Play: Kalia is catty, bitchy, etc. but she's also smart and not as emotional as most. She's there for the game play as much as the money so I can't see her voting emotionally.

Portia - Game Play: I wasn't a huge fan of hers until recently but she seems to have stepped it up a tad since the week before Dani left. With that said, any round table discussions the jury has will involve Dani giving her opinion, which means Portia's opinion will be made for her. She'll vote for game play because Dani will.

With that said, I don't think Shelly stands a chance with the jury. Those who vote emotionally will never vote for her because of her lies & back stabbing. Those who vote for game play will realize she did nothing until her vote to get Jeff out and then she continued to do nothing. There's no game play there.

Thoughts???

JOEY said...

Hi Jackie,
I am so happy to see that you are safe and made it through that storm. I hope you are feeling better as well.
on an other note: not sure if you read my email to you back in beginning of august but if you did, just a note to let you know he finally regain conscious this morning and is aware of things but still can not talk.I am so happy and relieve to know he will be getting better.
Thank you for the hard work you do and I kept coming to this blog at night to read all of the comments and your humor made it easy to endured all this and help to make me laugh at certain time, Thank you so much
Julie

Joe in NY said...

Sarah, what college? RIT? RPI?

Joe in NY said...

ORK I totally agree. That's why I think a passionless move on Radan's part would be to evict Adam. The problem is they sort of like him and his "honesty" and they are still mad at Shelly so their passion will win.

It is kind of funny if you think about it. Really Kalia booted Jeff. Now, she wouldn't have gotten the chance had Shelly voted to evict Rachel. But that's the funny part. Rachel should actually be grateful for Shelly's flip or Jeff would still be there and Rachel would be gone.

abigal said...

If Jordon and Rachel vote to keep Shelly, that would be the most stupid move since Lawon asked to be voted out. And I think Jordon and Rachel would take each other to the end -- they've made it this far together even thought they both considered getting rid of the other. Still, I don't think they would turn on each other now with all that's happened. And even though she has driven me crazy in both her years, Rachel deserves to win. I am amazed at her resilience, crying bouts aside. How can she even still be there when no one really likes her! I have a new respect for Rachel and I'm here rooting for her to win (now that Jeff is gone).

Anonymous said...

It's good to think with the end in mind (final 3, final 2, jury votes, etc). But you have to get there first. I think the move for Jordan and Rachel this week is to vote out Shelly. If they keep her, in the next HOH competition, it will be Rachel and Jordan against Shelly and Kalia, either of whom would nominate Jordan and Rachel in a heartbeat. No Brainer. But if they keep Adam instead of Shelly, then it's not a slam dunk he would nominate Rachel and Jordan. As a true swing vote, he could be swung and conceivably nominate Kalia and Porsche. Not a slam dunk, but there's a greater chance of that with him than with Shelly.

Joe in NY said...

anon 10:18 I was really under the impression that Adam isn't a swing vote. He hates Rachel and he told Jordan he was with the newbies now. So while I think he has some sympathy with Jordan I wouldn't count on him.

POV is the whole ballgame next week anyway and they must have Adam not be HOH anyway. If Adam is HOH and nominates Kalia and Rachel, if Rachel wins POV, Adam has to nominate Jordan to replace and then Porsche and Kalia would have the votes to evict Jordan. Even if Adam is gettable as an ally for Jordan, it is only helpful if he's NOT HOH.

I really think people advocating Shelly over Adam aren't thinking endgame and running on anti-Shelly sentiment. She's shown an ability to play both sides but that's pretty much over since she's been exposed. She hasn't been even close in any comps so unless she's faking it she's no danger to win anything. And Radan have no choice but to win their way in as no one is likely to take either one of them to the Final 2. So alliances are irrelevant (as if Radan could count on anyone in that house) and it is all about keeping the weakest players. Frankly, Shelly and Adam are the weakest 2 in the house so it is no great win getting either one out but Adam seems a little more capable than Shelly. And he also seems more capable of winning with a potentially bitter, divided jury.

sarah said...

@joe, RIT :)

Malik said...

@Sarah - Jeff is a jerk. I also still think he is a bully as well.

I stopped watching after they brought Brendan back, and just lurked here on Jackie's site to get my BB news.

This game is rigged to give certain people the advatage NO doubt about it. It is kinda like when you have Baseball teams with different ball park demensions or football teams with home field advantage.

This year the producers really wanted to have the vets go the farthest in the game...

1)The whole couples theme from day one gave the VETS the obvious upperhand since two people were TIGHT couples.

2)The timing of how they decided to make one of the HOH's reign pointless with the Brendan was voted back in by America was at the very least suspect.

3)Let's show Porsche the rocket scientest 5k for pandora and watch her unleash the ONE THING that could benefit the remaining VETS the most.

COME ON MAN!!! This game is most definately skewed.

abigal said...

Joe, do you really think Adam could win a comp over Shelly? He seems totally incompetent to me as far as anything physical goes. I think Shelly has the potential, but I don't think she can win a comp either. If either of them were to win a comp, it would be sheer luck

JimmyB said...

Rachel & Jordan would likely be better to vote Adam out. All the emotional nonsense aside--he's probably a better competitor than Shelly, AND her credibility is pretty much shot-with all.

I'd want to keep the weaker player in the house.

monty924 said...

@Joe
3 1/2 newbies and 2 1/2 vets, LMAO

Joe in NY said...

Hi Sarah,

I teach at RIT!!!

RBennie said...

Personally, I would love to see Adam go this week, just because I'm so sick of how he just follows the power. Yes, it has gotten him this far in the game, but I can respect that strategy and I don't think anyone on the jury is going to respect it either. I guess that would make him a good choice to have sitting next to you in F2, but I just don't think he deserves to make it that far.

Ed in Ohio said...

@ Joe in NY

If either Adam or Shelly (depending on which one stays) should win the Power of Veto next week. (unlikely) How do you think that would impact the game? P/K vs R/J.

In that scenario I believe a Shelly POV win would benefit P/K and an Adam POV win could go either way, but MIGHT benefit R/J.
I guess it would really depend on who was HOH.

Ed

Joe in NY said...

@abigail I've always said I think Adam is only a marginally bigger threat to win something. He's at least in some of the comps. Shelly seems to never get off the starting blocks.

chris said...

I think r/j k/p should force adam to choose a side before they play for hoh.
and please get shelly out.
there is backstabbing in every season of b/b but at least the backstabbers own it, they don't preach how they have integrity, how everyone else is a liar, blah blah blah
i for one think that shelly is a snake and they all know it. so her game play is not that good.

imo she should win nothing.
get her out

Anonymous said...

I stick with my original premise of only 2 sucessful HOHs out of 5 for the newbies.

From what was said on this board at the time, Brendon came back because people voted for him, alot, because they disliked Dani so much. So the twist presented only the possibility of Brendon coming back. It was Dani's mean spirited game play that got Brendon back in instead of Dominic and therefore nullified her first HOH.

Lawon did not get himself out. 1)Shelly manipulated Kalia to put up Porsche, which changed later to Lawon, to save Rachel because it helped Shelly's alliance at the time. And Kalia fell for it even tho her other influencer Dani was against it. 2) Kalia became so terrified of big scary angry Rachel coming back into the house she knowingly, willingly, got rid of one of her own instead. Lawon volunteering made it easier but it was Shellys manipulation and Kalia's fear that made it happen.

This week Rachel was smart enough to pick Jordan as her Duo mate before anyone else could figure out that that would be bad for the rest of them. AND Rachel was strong enough to win the POV. So the anti J and R people weren't smart enough or strong enough and the result..another one of their own will be booted during a Newbie HOH.

As for BB manipulation:

Who wants to watch a small group of people take out everybody else week to week, a long, slow, slog to their guaranteed win? Not me. So of course there are "twists" and comps geared to different strenghts to try to prevent that very thing from happening and instead help shift the power side to side.

BB knows going in they have some strong question people, some big athletes, some tiny people etc. They could easily have all the comps and twists in place before the season and the alliances start that would most likely keep the power shifting side to side without one iota of "rigging" week to week to individual players. I do not believe BB cares who wins. I think they only care that one side doesn't win everything everytime because then none of us would watch and the show would die.

Lili

Anonymous said...

Malik is right on. The timing is just too obvious and too shady. It would be nice if we could get a chance to see who can really play the game.

sarah said...

high-five joe!! have you been there long? my class is 03, but i graduated in 04 (snagged a second major). my friends and i joke that we, via our tuitions, built the field house/barnes and noble. haha. i havent been there in a few years, i hope its as awesome as they claim it is in every single alumni letter i receive!

Anonymous said...

I'd like a newbie to win. I never even agree with bringing the vets back when I first heard it. I really just want the old fashioned SEASON ONE BB back where it's just a bunch everyday average joe social experiment and America gets to vote for their favorite person. I don't really like the gimmicky "game show" it's become.

~~~

P.S. I am not Anon 12:26 :)

Anonymous said...

Sarah, at my college the ratio of guys to girls was more even BUT I went to a midwestern Big 10 with a large greek system. Jeff definitely reminds me of the arrogant, "good looking," aloof frat guys/athletes who could do no wrong and thought they owned the world.

And Jeff is from Chicago.

~~~

RBennie said...

No, I wouldn't want to go back as far as Season 1. That was beyond boring. I think they got it right around Season 3 or so. Let these people come in the house and sink or swim solely by their own wits, without any twists or machinations.

sarah said...

@ ~~~

as a west michigander, i know what you mean. RIT is not a big ten school in any way, a very very different type of student body. regardless, i see where you are coming from and fair enough. arrogance is arrogance, no matter the source.

Malik said...

@anon 12:26 thank you for reading my post, and thank you again for agreeing with me:)

I have known so many jeff's in my lifetime to know what a jerk he is to people that he think he is better than. I also noticed that he is in advertising sales - nuff said!

I really still can't believe that people don't see how this game stacked the deck against newbs and figure that is ok.

Imagine you work to get on BB, and when you get in the house there is one of the old players in the house? How would that make you feel especially if they had a partner in the game?

Anonymous said...

@Malik

"Imagine you work to get on BB, and when you get in the house there is one of the old players in the house?"

And not just one but SIX and not just old players but some of the BEST including 2 winners! And this is perhaps the weakest group of newbs in recent BB history, which I also find suspect.

~~~

Anonymous said...

There's no wonder the newbs backed into the corner the first few weeks.

People are criticizing the newbs for only now just stepping up, but how could they with such intimidating Vets in house before: The strongest vets in bb history WITH the strongest personalities we've seen.

Anonymous said...

It's quite possible that Adam is pulling a Dan, was it Dan, throwing all the comps looking weak etc., just so that someone will not take him as a threat. He is a huge fan of BB and of course, he's well aware of how well Dans' strategy worked. He's hard to read.

I don't believe Shelly is purposefully throwing anything. She just sucks at comps.
Jordan either.

As for Porshe stepping up her game, she no longer has much compettition in those comps. Just Rachel and Rachel is savy enough to throw a few comps just to make herself look like less of a target. She does seem a little more mature and emotionally stable now that Brendon is gone.

Joe in NY said...

Hi Sarah,

I've only been at RIT since '05

Joe in NY said...

I don't think throwing vets in the house is an automatic advantage. Consider Russell on Survivor. They threw a comp just to get rid of him!

Having experience is helpful. If the newbies worship you that is also helpful. But being a known quantity also has its downside.

If this were Shelly's 2nd appearance, would she have lasted past the first week? If ED had stayed in the house wouldn't he be the main target from week 1.

If the vets have an advantage is mostly because the newbies handed it to them by treating them as special.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Adam is talking about how the questions he's been missing were ABOUT HIM. lol

Anonymous said...

Not a Shelly fan but I really have not seen Adam play the game. He claims to be an expert and that is fine,but I so wanted to see some moves.
Debbie In Ft. Lauderdale

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Does anyone watch Hell's Kitchen?? Elise is like Rachel...she just WON'T GO AWAY!

What is with that I ask myself every week what does Ramsey see that we don't?
Debbie in Ft.Lauderdale

Anonymous said...

Debbie, I think Ramsey sees a little bit of himself in Elise.

Also it's clear that he is also aware of what looks good for the show, tricking the cotestants to make it seem like he's booting them when he's not, yelling funny one liners and keeping Elise

~~~

Margo said...

Julie-

I did not realize that Joey was ill. Let him know that I wish him a speedy recovery and look forward to hearing his comments about Survivor & Amazing Race. We only have 2 more weeks of BB so if he can make it back for the finale would be wonderful.

>argo

Joe in NY said...

Hell's Kitchen is totally fake reality TV. They do sort of have a cash prize, but it is arbitrarily assigned. I wonder how they circumvent the game show rules.

I love Hell's Kitchen but seriously, those are the 12 best cooks they can find? They cook the same menu every night and even after several weeks 1/2 of them still can't cook the meat or fish properly. I mean, c'mon!

Anonymous said...

Well, well, well...Mr. U.S. Code Section 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter V

Hell's Kitchen is rigged? :)

But I think they screw up the dish each week because Chef Ramsey is screaming at them the whole time.
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Anonymous said...

Rachel must have figured out that Shelly is the only one she could beat. So it makes sense to keep her next to her as opposed to putting her on the jury.

Ed in Ohio said...

Shelly seems to be very good at driving a wedge between people.

She now seems to have Jordan & Rachel disagreeing on which to keep. Rachel may want to keep Shelly and Jordan wanting to keep Adam.

Ed

chacha said...

ANON 4:17-

Shelly gave a hard sell this morning and admitted to Rachel of the game she is playing.
Rachel also says the only ones she wants to see in final two are her and Jordan but I don't really believe her. If shelly were in final two i would really have a hard time deciding since it was two totally different games they played.
Shelly- manipulator
Rachel- competitor
Honestly the best person for Rachel to drag to the end would be Adam. That is if he doesn't pull anymore wins out. Come on the corn whole does not a winner make..

Anonymous said...

I'm torn on who Rachel and Jordan should decide to keep. Rachel is being more analytical (for a change). Jordan is still bitter.

Adam may have been playing the part of the ultimate floater that nobody has to worry about... and then suddenly start winning comps at the end. Not likely, but you never know.

Everyone loves to hate Shelly, and she does suck at all the comps. However, she's been able to pull off some pretty sneaky stuff. If she was to make it to the F2 (by some freak accident), and everyone was realistic about her game (instead of just who won the most HOHs/POVs), she could win.


Sharon

Anonymous said...

Sorry, did I miss something?

Everyone is saying or suggesting that Rachel and Jordan are surviving until the end now. Did I miss a new twist or something? Or are we just assuming that because they are the strongest players so far they will win hoh and make it to the end.

~~Silk said...

Does anyone know how Meb's little Jake is doing? My grandbaby was in the NICU with a bacterial infection four months ago, so I know how helpless she feels.

Pullin' for ya, Meb.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think Rachel and Porsche are the strongest players remaining, with Kalia 3rd.

Any one of those 3 can win HOH.
For Jordan or Adam to win a comp would probably take a minor miracle... unless Adam has been faking incompetency all this time.

Rachel and Jordan have been working on their endurance for several days, and put in about 20 miles of walking/jogging yesterday, so if any upcoming comps have to do with that kind of endurance, they both would have a chance.

Meanwhile, the rest of the HGs lazed around, and Kalia continued down the "path of gluttony" (as usual).

Sharon

JimmyB said...

Discovered a very well-written "editorial" by Ragan Fox (BB12) regarding the Shelly hating.

Worth reading: http://ragan.wordpress.com/

~~Silk said...

Absolutely read Ragan's essay, http://ragan.wordpress.com/, recommended by JimmyB. Ragan makes excellent points, like "YOUR HATE IS NOT THE MEASURE OF SHELLY’S CHARACTER, IT’S THE MEASURE OF YOUR OWN." (His caps, not mine.)

I agree with him 100%.

Lorraine said...

If you are a Jeff and Jordan fan (like me) you might enjoy watching this on You Tube:

She Makes Jeff Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SioBLh8gdk8

I know it's from the last time they were on but I think it's cute.

monty924 said...

Just an odd catch on the feeds just now. Just me though...

Rachel to Porsche (while reading the Bible): Are the Gideons Catholic?
Porsche: Yeah

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Anonymous said...

jackie i hope your power didnt go out i love getting updates from you been reading you for quiet a few seasons hurry back to us!! meb hope the babies doing better.

~~Silk said...

Audio clip at http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/26/insidetv-podcast-jeff-big-brother-homosexual-dumbledore/, interview with Dani and Jeff after their ouster. Very interesting....

meb said...

Hi Everyone. First let me say I so appreciate all the prayers you've sent up for my great grandson, Jake. It is so heart warming to read those comments.

He did have a spinal tap and they are waiting for the results. We don't really know, yet, what it really is, but his doctor felt he should be treated with anti-bacterial meds until they can determine the problem.

I did get to see him today and he doesn't seem to be uncomfortable in any way... his mom and dad are a different story, of course. It's very difficult to watch your 12 day old baby going through such things that would be difficult for an adult.

Again, thanks so much for your prayers. Keep 'em coming! Jackie thanks for letting me use this venue to let everyone know how Jake's doing.

Anonymous said...

Monty, I think they were referring to the Gideon International aka, the Gideons, you know the people who put Bibles in your hotel room?

Thanks for the links everyone.

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Anonymous said...

Shelly wants everyone to fight. That is game play for many. Take any attention away from yourself.
I love Jeff. I love the way he played the game this time. It did not work...but I really like the guy. I CANNOT STAND SHELLY. Neither can America. Good!!! Get her out of there. Adam is a weirdo and quite frankly so is Kalia. I can't believe I have softened towards Rachel. I did not like her during her season and the beginning of this one. Final 3.....Jordon, Rachel, Adam.

monty924 said...

@Anon
Monty, I think they were referring to the Gideon International aka, the Gideons, you know the people who put Bibles in your hotel room?
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I know what Rachel meant. I was rolling my eyes at the question and answer. Catholic here...

monty924 said...

You have mine Meb. Still praying for your little man. Hugs!

ORKMommy said...

It's not 'America' who cannot stand Shelly, it's just a subset of a subset who watches this show. Many of us don't have emotional feelings about people we watch on TV. Myself included!

Joe in NY said...

anon 4:11 ----

Read my whole post. I asked whether Hell's Kitchen could circumvent U.S. Code 47. The thing there is it's all in the judgment of one man. Do they count? There's no objective criteria.

Joe in NY said...

anon 5:35 ALL the players should be considering who they want to be against at the end. It is simply good strategy to think a few moves ahead. You might try playing a little chess.

Joe in NY said...

So is Ragan owning his hatred of Rachel last season? I know they are buds now, but he definitely hated her last summer...

monty924 said...

I'm glad that you mentioned chess, Joe. This season, for the first in many, has been devoid of house guests playing chess. I wonder why? I really don't care because that brings long feeds with nothing but two people staring at a chess board. I was extremely happy when the chess pieces started coming up missing. All of the earlier seasons had them playing chess all the time.

BORING....... ;)

Malik said...

@chcah that corn hole comment made me laugh

@ anon 3:17
and anon 3:22 my thoughts exactly! I feel no matter what in a game like bb or survivor veterans have an advantage.

The ragan link was a greatl read on shelly and kalia. I am so glad that kalia took jeff out, because it will bug him for the rest of his life. If shelly owned up to what she was doing in dr sessions I would feel that she is playing the best game.

If kalia didn't make the 2nd dumbest ,move followed by lawon's s13 dumbest move, I would feel that she is playing an ok game. Porsch seems really sneaky, and jordan and racheal are on my vet list. Which brings me to adam... He is by far the BIGGEST disappointment of the season to me. Has he ever said that he is throwing comps in diary room?

The podcast posted by silk that had interviews with daniel and jeff, reconfirmed my opinion that jeff is a bully.

Anonymous said...

If my math is correct J/R only have to win the next HOH, and the POV the following week to be in F3.

This week Shelly goes which leaves five. Next week there are 2 votes, & HOH breaks the tie & Porsche can't play for HOH. The following week the POV holder has all the power.

If they win the next HOH I think they should boot Porsche as she has proven herself sufficiently athlectic to be a threat.

Jordan and Rachel all the way!

Lili