Monday, March 31, 2008

The Bachelor: London Calling Blog Discussion Post

Due to popular request, here it is! A blog discussion post for the new season of The Bachelor: London Calling. Grab a keyboard and a comfy seat and discuss the show with your friends. It's not a show I watch, but I know many of you do, so this post is for you!

The official show site is here.

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joy n said...

I just can't get past Shayne's teen-age-y characteristics. Maybe she'll surprise me.

That gift seemed a bit contrived.

Anonymous said...

stupidcupid here

Shayne's date.

Parasailing???????

How not romantic is that????

"IF I don't come back, I wish you and Chelsea well." NOOOOOO Shayne don't fail me now, you have to ACE this.

She is going to have her heart broken, I feel it and it's very painful.

A special gift. "I Love You" in the sand........ A photograph of Shayne writing it in two pieces and framed for Matt. He thinks it's so "sweet".

He hasn't made his decision yet.

He's completely confused.

He will never regret it, he knows when he makes it, that is it. But he has to make it. (what Matt said)

I didn't get the feeling for Shayne's date that I had for Chelsea's date did any of you??????

Terry is a Texan! said...

totally freakin out here in CA, you guys are so great to post it all!!!!

Sydney said...

OK, his reaction to Shayne's fabulous gift (I'm going to have to steal that idea) was less than returned. He did say he was falling in love with her AFTER SHE HAD TO BRING IT UP TWO MORE TIMES. He's choosing Chelsea.

He can't say later "I so wanted to tell her I loved her too" because he told Chelsea freely already.

She seemed more childlike this date than I've seen before. He wants a woman, not a kid sister, not "monkey".

Poor Shayne will be crushed but she will get over it. Hope she finds someone wonderful when the time is right.

joy n said...

I think Shayne makes him feel younger. He has lots of fun with her. He's repeated that often this season. I just don't see that making a lasting relationship.

Terry is a Texan! said...

sydney!!!!! Im dying here!!!

Sydney said...

I'm totally stress eating.

Chelsea looks amazing, but she is first....

Sydney said...

WOw -- they are having a real talk, these are really real feelings here. So hard that they have to take this long walk together. DId they sleep together the night she took off her panties? Can you imagine how this feels especially if so?

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

I'm balling my eyes out!!!!!

Matt and Shayne Forever!!

Write it in the sand!!!!!

Now Chelsea is trying to hurt Matt for not choosing her by saying bad things about Shayne. At first I thought she was being a classy lady but she turned out to be a hard nosed broad. So sad, her tears don't hurt me now.

Excuse meeeeeeeeeee, he's a fool because he didn't choose you Chelsea, not hardly.

joy n said...

Well, we'll be reading about Matt and Shayne not making this work in the not so far off future. Shayne has a humongus crush going on. She'll get over it when she realizes that Matt will not continually spoil her the way she's used to being spoiled. Early on she admitted that she was high-maintenance. Matt is being foolish, I believe.

Chelsea did not take the rejection well.

Sydney said...

It's funny, when I read an article today where Matt said he and hthe girl he picked would have none of the producers telling them they could not meet in these three months... that they spoke every day on the phone and found ways to have many sneaky visits, I immediately thought that sounds like something you could only do with Shayne... and now, that's right!

Well, for once they used their editing in reverse.. they showed what was really happening and we all thought it meant the opposite. They got me.

Gals, I'm supposed to go for a blood test tomorrow that had me on a 12 hour fast... and I had to blow it and eat during this! Fat free Cool whip, sugar free chocolate pudding, strawberries and low fat nilla wafers... low fat but still!!! I;ll have to reschedule, LOL!!!!

Anonymous said...

I can't believe how stupid Matt is. He chose Shayne. She's such a fake. She is an actress for crying out loud. He thinks she is going to be there for him??? HELLOOOO!!! She plans to be in movies all the time. Dumb dumb Matt. He's marrying a teeny-bopper. SAD!!! I'm done with reality T.V.!!!

Anonymous said...

This guy is an complete idiot. Shayne is an actress on a TV show...hmmmm, they will not end up getting married, and if they do, it won't last past 1 year....she is a little blonde bimbo...he kicked off all the girls of substance and kept the 22 and 24 yr olds...and he thinks those girls are going to spend time with hiim in London. He is lame, but still love the show and love Jackie!!

Sydney said...

OK I'm dabbing tears!!!!
Dla are you watching?

Terry is a Texan! said...

thank you so much Sydney! Im sick that it turned out this way...Chelsea being a brat...him picking Shayne...I just dont buy her at this age and her profession and "high maintenance" what about the "passion" he spoke of?
Weird.
So sorry you have to reschedule the test!!!
Thanks to you and Joy N for a great recap!!!

Sydney said...

oh screw these replays of that last bachelor. He was a freak, lol!

Anonymous said...

She jumped on his back for pity-sake... like a six year old... maybe Matt likes little kids... all I know is the whole thing is just sick, sick, sick. What a predictable load of crap. I bet this relationship doesn't last six months. SICK! Matt... you've ruined the show!!!

Anonymous said...

Ok So I am confused here he did choose Chelsea? Why :( i was hoping he would choose shayne but she is alot younger anyway it was a good season i really like it the ladies were pretty tolerable lol

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

I was bawling my eyes out.

Shayne was kinda shocked.

I loved the montage of Matt and Shayne. I haven't felt those emotions since my husband proposed to me 29 years ago. Or maybe a couple days ago, lol.

I really think that the two of them will make it. If they don't I will be shocked.

Why they took time away from Matt and Shayne to plug DeAnna, I'll never know.

I'm thoroughly pleased with this outcome and have enjoyed voicing my opinion.

Good night all

Stupidcupid.

joy n said...

This may be the last season of The Bachelor that I watch. I'm so tired of the disappointing endings, and the break-ups that always seem to follow. I think Matt will end up with the broken heart this time around.

Sydney said...

To both anons-- I am amazed you didn't see that Shayne is funny and warm and does have a maturity about her... even if she is not your pick, I am sincerely curious... after watching this entire season did you only see what you describe in her?

Sydney said...

I am happy with the outcome and I too think they just might make it...

joy n said...

Guess we'll all find out eventually.

Sydney said...

Yes he did choose Shayne, and hi Terry in Ca. It was great watching with you all tonight! Joy, I'm sorry that you are not happy with the outcome... I know how that feels, as it happens most every show for me... Surovoir last night and BB too after we put all that time into watching! But tonight at least I was happy for them.

When I was 22 I was capable of great devotion and was as yet untarnished by men and relationships so I do believe you can be over the moon and dead serious at 22. If the MAN is ready, a girl can make a go of it. It's when he's really not that it usually doesn't work. The question is, will Shayne find in a year or two that she does not have the skills to keep it together? The apple either falls far from the tree or the child turns out to be just like the parents. Seems she is the former. We shall see. I may eat my words Joy!!!

Anonymous said...

Yay he picked shayne. She was so genuine, but yet herself. She didn't change who she really was to try and impress him. And that is truly impressive. Now I know Matt doesn't have to listen to chelsea's obnoxious voice and laugh and mannerisms is very reassuring. He deserves someone who is real with him, and herself. Yay Shane you rock!!!

meb said...

SPOILER WEST COASTERS... DON'T READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.



Allright! He picked Shayne! I was afraid he wouldn't because he kept calling Chelsea "honey" and he wasn't using any endearments with Shayne until he started calling her "monkey". I still wasn't feeling it tho.

I couldn't believe that Chelsea called Shayne a fraud or fake, whatever word she used. How stupid was that at that point. So glad that Matt came to Shayne's defense, not allowing it to pass.

I'm glad he picked Shayne and I hope they make it.

Anonymous said...

I've been married 25 years and my husband still gives me butterflies in my stomach, but nothing about this show caused me any emotion except disgust. I watched the entire season and could see right through Shayne. She's a mere child in her actions and emotions. She is false and nothing she does or says rings true. I cannot believe how easily Matt was fooled by her. I think he was looking for someone to make him feel like a big man... and Shayne, being the little girl that she is, fit the bill. I don't believe this will last.

meb said...

Hmmmm... when I started typing, none of your comments were here as to who he chose... guess I took too long to type.

Anonymous said...

So I am 28 with 3 kids and have been married since I was 21. I love my hubby and my kids. We have a great family. I don't know why some of you think being in your early 20's means you won't make it in a marriage. And her young spirit is awesome. If you can't play around and have fun like they do. Wow what a boring rest of your life. There are many women who can act like that only with the love of their lives. But that doesn't make us immature. It actually brings another dimension to your relationship. Try it sometime.

Sydney said...

Anon's 11:45 and 48 thanks for your stories!! I hope they succeed!

Anonymous said...

annonymous 11:48 that is a great point. you know shane only was playful like that when she was with Matt. Either wise she was very reserved and respectful and poised with all the other immature women in the house. Not many people who are a product of Hollywood have the kid of grace and maturity she does.

joy n said...

I was actually disappointed with Chelsea's reaction. I think Matt was, too.

Even Shayne's father was concerned about Shayne's true reasons for being on the show. She wants to act. That will mean a lot of separation for them. Can he handle her love scenes with other men? Can she handle the temptations that Hollywood offers pretty, young twenty-somethings?

At twenty-two, she still has so much growing to do. She's heading towards a career that is known to wipe out even the best of relationships.

It's not always the "man" that isn't ready. Matt seems genuinely to want this to work, but I don't see either of them being realistic about the odds against them.

Shayne has stars in her eyes. This is her prince charming. She strikes me as a girl who wants it all. What you want at 22 is not necessarily what you want 10 years later. Matt says when his father was ill, it made him realize how much he wanted to start a family. Shayne, just starting a career, doesn't strike me as the "mommy" type any too soon. I don't blame her, but it may well turn out to be a point of contention between them.

He said he has an office in London. Sounds to me like he'll be traveling back and forth a lot in reference to his business and if she's filming all over the place, she's committed to traveling too. That will only create tremendous pressure on that "happily ever after" state of mind that they're in at the moment.

I just smell a disaster in the making. Maybe I'll be the one to eat my words, but somehow, I'm doubting that. As I said earlier, eventually we'll all find out.

Anonymous said...

Matt said to Shayne, "I think you'd like it in London, the shopping................." So that leads me to believe he knows what he's in store for and prepared to make it happen for the woman he loves.

The absolute only time I was disappointed in Shayne during this entire show was the high drama with Matt in Vegas. Her calling him out and reacting the way she did was embarrassing to me and should have in all truth gotten her bum sent home.

Matt apparently thought otherwise and saw something very special in Shayne and kept her around for that reason.

My assessment of Shayne throughout the show was that she was the most mature of all the ladies. Especially when it came down to alone time with Matt. She stepped aside and let the other ladies have their time with Matt and didn't interrupt them in any way. She didn't push herself on him, he chose her each week to continue because of her personality and how she reacted to situations with him as well as her maturity.

She and a group of women interrupted Robin and Matt on one occasion to prove a point to Robin, which totally skipped over Robin's head, she unfortunately just didn't get it, nor did she get Matt because of her immaturity and insecurities.

The one thing you could say about Shayne is that she was not insecure in her feelings at all, she said it every week not only to Matt but to us. When I'm with Matt, it's me, who I am, not someone who is just here to be here, I'm here for Matt. Just like she told him when they visited with her Dad on the home visit. It's real important to me that both of you understand that I'm here for one reason and that's for you Matt if it weren't you I wouldn't be here. Takes some maturity and confidence to say that not only to Matt but to her Dad as well.

My all time fav scene with the two of them was the skiing trip when she pulled the make up out. And he genuinely cackled out loud, and so did I. I still watch that scene over and over, and then the dreaded Jaws music with the "shark" (Robin) lurking in the
background.

When they went on the Tennis and Tea date, and Shayne so maturely explained to Robin, okay then if you continue to interrupt the dates then you can expect the girls to gossip about you behind your back.

When Marshana and Chelsea had the blowup, Shayne was there to calm both down. Very mature of her to know what was going down was wrong.

When they were together, they were genuinely Matt and Shayne.

I'm watching this again and Shayne just gave him the "I Love You" photo and he said to her, "You're the most warm, kindest, most genuine person I've ever met." Matt is a smart man, do you think he would say that if he didn't really feel in his heart that she were, "genuine?"

I know there is a lot of what I've pointed out to the Shayne doubters and it may not be in chronological order but it happened just the same.

I saw in Shayne a true genuineness, more than any other woman on the show. It really upsets me that the people who didn't "get" Shayne say she is immature. I was married at the age of 22 after dating my husband for less than 3 months and we are in our 29th year. We have two wonderful boys 21 and 15. The odds were against us from the start and we've made it this far and I can see us together until death.

I'm feeling really confident about their relationship now and I hope and pray that they make it for the long haul. I think also the world would be so cute with little Shaynes and Matts walking around.

They are the cutest couple together.

Good Luck to Matt and Shayne

Stupidcupid

joy n said...

Guess that many of us will just have to agree to disagree.

I actually am a romantic at heart. That part of me hopes you're right.

Anonymous said...

yah

Sydney said...

StupidCupid -- Do you comment on other shows on Jackie's blog under another name or just the Bachelor? We hang out all year commenting and sure would like to have you there. I've enjoyed your contributions here immensely!

Caroline said...

I'm immensely disappointed in his choice. I really felt like watching these 3 people, that Matt & Chelsea had a better match. It seems more like they want the same things out of life and that their futures were more on the same line with each other. As for Shayne being genuine. We've seen very little of her in the grand scheme of things, but it's not unrealistic to think she, at times, was saying what people wanted to hear. She's an actress and she's from the most superficial place in America. Not to take anything away from her, but I just didn't feel she was the right match for Matt.

As for Chelsea's reaction to being dumped. I understand it completely and think she was definitely justified. Matt hurt her immensely, and he led her on tremendously...right up til the very end. She was very honest with him all along about not giving her heart away easily and then when she finally does, he crushes her. And in the course of the show we only ever heard her say 1 bad thing about Shayne and it was immediately after being crushed. I think she can be forgiven for 1 statement made out of hurt and anger. What pissed me off most was when Matt said "you took too long to open up to me". This show lasted 6 weeks in their lives...I don't think it's unreasonable that it took her half that time to feel comfortable with him...3 weeks..most people only have 3 or 4 dates in real life in that amount of time. And the guy they are dating isn't also dating hords of other women in the process.

Well I've certainly started off the week in a reality slump. First Parvati wins Survivor (boooo!) and then Shayne wins Bachelor. I'm batting zero so far, let's hope it gets better with DWTS & Idol.

Beth said...

Well I am a lurker on Jackie's blog but read them all consistently. I just thought I would chime in a little here. One thing that really impressed me with Shayne was last night when she was talking to Matt's mom and she talked about how she had seen what a messed up marriage was and did not want that (I am condensing the conversation here of course). She said that she knew marriage was hard and took work and that you had to want to work through the hard stuff with the person before you committed. That to me was very telling of her maturity. There are so many people that even at 30 or 40 do not get that.

I was 19 when I got married, by the time I was Shayne's age I was a mother of two. I knew at 19 what I wanted. Like Shayne my husband is 5 1/2 years older then me. There is such a difference I think when the husband is older. We have talked about how I was immature at times but in all honestly I admit to him there are times I still am. I mean here I am sitting here eating Cheetos and Oreos for breakfast because all the kids have left and I don't have to answer to what goes in my mouth to them LOL! I also think though that if you go into a relationship looking for that long term comittment and not just with a "we'll see how this works out" attitude that right there is half the battle in surviving a relationship.

My husband and I just celebrated our 10 year anniversary and 4 kids later we are even happier then we were when he proposed 11 years ago. I still can be silly and have fun and act "childish" if you want to say but I see a lot of Shayne in myself (minus the family money!) and I think that the "childishness" is what will help them through the hard patches because it lightens up a stressful situation. I am excited for them, this is the first Bachelor that I have really thought might have a chance. No, not everyone is ready to be married at 22. I was ready at 19... my older sister married at 27 and she still is not prepared for what all a marriage holds. We came from the same family, saw the same infidelity issues arise and we each have very different marriages. Just a thought!

I have enjoyed reading you guys' chatter and feel like I have gotten to know you on here, thanks for the laughs!

dla said...

Sydney, I am also confused by the "emotional connection" conversations... very weird!

I sure hope they make it!!

joy n said...

If anyone's interested, there's an update about Shayna that I posted today over on Jackie's regular blog.

Terry is a Texan! said...

Ok, I just watched the program (finale) on the computer....I have to say she seems far more adorable than I ever would have thought...he saw that...I think she does mean it...and I would be surprised if this doesnt work out.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

Sydney, no. I was so touched by watching Matt and Shayne fall in love on the show that I couldn't stand waiting until the finale. I just had to know who he chose so I began surfing the net for a "spoiler." The not knowing was getting to me. That's how I found Jackie's Blog and began to read it and was hooked from day one.

The most hilarious thing last night. I Googled "Matt and Shayne" and it was unbelievable the videos and pictures that came up, some posted months ago. Had I Googled that same thing instead of The Bachelor London Calling I might not have found this blog but I sure would have known who Matt chose a lot sooner than last night!!!

I've truly enjoyed being here and it's the first thing I check when getting online. I don't know if I will be commenting on other shows I will have to wait and see what I get into.

I do love The Amazing Race, which I happen to think is the most challenging and truest reality and competitive show on T.V. It gets my blood pumping on occasion.

Back to the Bachelor. Everyone loves a love story. This was a love story for me, made me smile and I got a bit giddy each time I saw Matt and Shayne together and had my husband laughing his buns off. (wink, wink)

So I guess I'm all done here but keep an eye out for the arrow, you never know where or when stupidcupid might show up again.

joy n said...

Terry, I got your email and tried three times to email you back, but I keep getting them back as wrongly addressed.

The comments on the articles I was talking about are posted on Jackie's regular website in the Survivor finale post.

meb said...

Hey Stupidcupid...don't go away... we have so much fun here just chatting, even if nothing much is going on. We'd love to have you stick around. I really enjoyed your comments. So just hang in a little longer and you'll find there's always lots to "talk" about on jackies blog. Glad you found us!

Now I have to go look for those pictures you're all talking about. Talk later.

Terry is a Texan! said...

joy n---I watched ellen today to see them together, they seemed very at ease.....

Anonymous said...

OHHHMG, were they not just the cutest couple you've ever seen in your life?????!!!!! Just saw the video of them on Ellen today, they were so cute, I tell ya I just can't get enough they make me just soooooo happy. I'm so glad I watched, I came so close to not getting emotionally invested this season. They just look fabulous together, Shayne is quite the little fashion statement now isn't she and Matt is just tooo cute for words, they just make me smile.

joy n said...

Hope you guys are still right in the long run.

joy n said...

It's been reported by several sources that Matt and Shayne, whom had moved in together immediately after the end of the season, have now had a change of plans. Matt moved out, saying they have not broken up but they both "need space to grow". Hmmmmm......

joy n said...

The N.Y. (Sunday) Post states that Shayne Lamas has broken off her romantic relationship with Matt Grant. The article states that she cheated on him with Las Vegas media mogul, Justin Wenerger, and broke off the relationship with Matt by phone. Grant is said "to be devastated" by the breakup.

Reality TV World also has the story.

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