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Monday, June 09, 2008
The Bachelorette Meet Up
On the Bachelorette website on ABC.com there is a little screen and under it you can click on shorts to view. There is one called Diary of the Departed and is of some interest. It's the last words of the guys who leave each week. This week you can get one last glimpse of the Bitter Barber and Paul, the sweet, pillow lipped guy she let go last Monday night. I know, you can probably live without ever seeing the barber again, but you will chuckle to hear him still harping on Jeremy (Methinks he has a man crush and it's man-ifester-ing this way).
Tonight the boys get to race fast cars, wearing one piece jumpsuits. I think we liked the Ellen boxers better. And it looks like we may finally get to see the overplayed scene where she bawls out the guys while crying about how serious she is.
She rejects the kiss of one guy --ouch --and she goes on a solo date with Jesse, the long haired snowboard guy, so we can finally get more than a glimpse of what his appeal may be. It says a date may end with the most shocking outcome yet! Doesn't that make you want to tune in to see?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 510 Newer› Newest»Deanna says she's always had feelings for Jason but now they are more intense.
Is it possible that Deanna looks even thinner than she was when the show started? lol
She's looking pretty darn happy on this dinner date with Jason.
I love how people act as if they don't know that envelope is coming. Love that Jason threw it ways and says he doesn't need to read the rest of it.
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Since I didn't know Brad, was he more like Jeremy or Jason?
I hope Jason's heart doesn't get broken..again. ::::sigh::::
Do we notice Jason is sporting a little Graham scruff???????????????????
Ok, finally a big, open mouthed kiss for Jason!
Jason and DeAnna together at dinner. He will spend the night with her. She likes that he said that she and Ty are the two most important people in his life. To the fantasy suite. He gave her a charm and thanked her for teaching him to fall in love again. She says she is falling in love with Jason.
when she says she could see herself spenidng her life with Jeremy, I think thats the kiss of death for him....Im so excited, cant wait to hear whats going on on the East coast!!!
Thank you Sydney and everyone else!
terry...
Do you have the link so you can watch?
http://www.justtvnuts.com/tvfeed.htm
Zoe -- well, Brad was I think more Jason like -- he seemed very wide eyed and into listening to whatever the woman was saying, had a gosh golly jee aw shucks pahsaw kind of simple guy thing about him.
But he and Graham were light years apart. Do you other gals think that is true? Maybe I'm missing something.
I have a hunch Deanna liked the total attention with which Brad listened and his seeming sincerity. So on that count, both Jason and Jeremy are attention central and share that with what she may have liked about Brad.
Syd - I feel the same way...Jason just doesnt have that grrrrr factor.....
Ooh -- Jesse greets Deanna and she kissed him first, twice, then the third time. Hmmm!
Gotta give her credit for looking like she's REALLY giving each guy a fair chance.
OH, if I were to ride a horse in a bikini top I'd knock myself out, lol. NOT pretty.
Jesse's a sweet guy but I don't think he's sophisticated enough for her. She asked him what he's going to do with his life other than snowboarding. He didn't have much of an answer.
sydney said...
OH, if I were to ride a horse in a bikini top I'd knock myself out, lol. NOT pretty.
LMAO! Me too! :D
Wow, she and Jesse are making out a LOT... and it's open mouthed. Hmmm... at this rate, looks like Jeremy may be going tonight.
Let's not forget about editing though, y'all. They could have edited it all out with Jeremy.
Now Jessie. He says he is falling for her SO hard. She takes him horseriding. Riding on the beach and in the water. Very romantic.
More kissing. Every time she's with him, she wants to spend more and more time with him. Today she is "giddy" to be with him. He thinks maybe they are meant to be together.
Having fun on a date with a guy who makes you laugh is one thing but living a life with someone is another story.
sydney...
Editing can change things drastically. I think D likes Jesse and his child-like qualities a lot, but I still think she wants more.
Sorry to ask again but who is most like Brad?
zoe- scroll a few back - I answered you re: brad best I could.
I'm still not getting how she was "in love with Graham" in a timeline of only days ago, but is now, miraculously going to fall in love again. Sorry, Sydney and Zoetawny, that's not very realistic in my book. She said she was in love with Graham.
I think she wants a fiance, no matter what.
sydney...
D doesn't seem the type to like the "gosh golly jee aw shucks pahsaw kind of simple guy". She does want the guy to be focused on her but what girl doesn't.
Jesse saying things about it doesn't matter how much money he makes and what he drives as long as he's happy I think is lovely but not what I think Deanna will ultimately be OK with.
sydney...
Got it...had to refresh the page to see your response.
joy n said...
I'm still not getting how she was "in love with Graham" in a timeline of only days ago, but is now, miraculously going to fall in love again. Sorry, Sydney and Zoetawny, that's not very realistic in my book. She said she was in love with Graham.
I think she wants a fiance, no matter what.
ITA!!!!!! Is she forcing herself for the sake of the show?
Joy said -
"I think she wants a fiance, no matter what."
I agree. Just hope she finds love after the show with the finaceetoo.
Jessie is willing to wean himself from snowboarding for her. She asks what he will do when there is no more snowboarding. Says he be a sports manager or something. Jessie says he is falling in love with her. (SIGH!) He hesitates, then laughs. You guys were right. He goes to the suite with her. She says she is there 100% for Jessie.
Or to show Brad? Or because her professional rep is on the line? Or because she just wants what she wants?
That said, if she picks Jason and then really manages to hold it together with him during the deadly 3 months of showtime, I think she could truly develop whatever she's missing with him now after.
WOW thank you Zoetawny!!! this is awesome!
wish I had that the whole season!!!
Maybe forcing herself to save face after her last season?
Sydney said...
Jesse saying things about it doesn't matter how much money he makes and what he drives as long as he's happy I think is lovely but not what I think Deanna will ultimately be OK with.
SPOT ON!!!!! D is more high maintenance than "living on love" (wish it were so). She did ask Jesse what he plans on doing other than snowboarding. I think D is more mature for her age and Jesse would be better off with either a younger girl or a less wordly type.
TerryinCA said...
WOW thank you Zoetawny!!! this is awesome!
wish I had that the whole season!!!
I didn't know you didn't have the link. Nana and I found it at the end of BB9.
Enjoy!
I doubt Jessie has a chance in you- know-where. She doesn't strike me as the type to fall in love with the poor, but sweet lover.
jesse has a bit of a sean penn thing...
She's coming to do the final rose ceremony. Jeremy looks intensely nervous and serious.
SHAVE Jason!!! SHAVE for ME!!!
Sheesh, now she says she is falling in love with all three guys. She must go with her heart.
Deanna says her heart is breaking an waful LOT. Gee Jeremy looks so handsome smiling at her all of the sudden. She picks Jesse first, so the other two know and Jason looks like he's going to toss it. Poor Jeremy, he is going!
OMG! Jesse got a rose.
YES YES YES Jesse got a rose and YEH YEH YEH Jeremy's gone!!!!
He looks much better than JAson... and OH yes, Jeremy is shocked and very hurt. It as clearly hard for Deanna.
SAD SAD SAD
HER heart is breaking right now. Hmmm.
Jessie gets first rose.
Jason gets second one.
Goodbye, Jeremy.
Awwwwwwwwwww, Jeremy! :(
She was just not feeling the chemistry with Jeremy I think.
"I'm stupid for sending you home". Did she make the wrong decision? She just wasn't in love with him. He's so hurt. ::::sniffles::::
I'm not sure Deanna's tears are so real here. She is certain about her decision from the looks of it.
My heart is breaking for him. Maybe he'll be the next Bachelor. ;)
I'm shocked she chose Jesse over Jeremy. I sure had it wrong.
She tells Jeremy they share a bond that no one else does, but it's not love. Jeremy says he is hurt and he is in love with her.
Hasn't she done all along the same things that Brad did? How can you help but lead people on in this show? But she doesn't seem to want to be blamed for it.
Jeremy stops the car and walks a bit. He seems genuinely hurt. I feel bad for him.
jeremy makes the limo stop so he can get out and walk a little. The camera follows and voice over he says" I don't want to lose another person I love."
Woah, the Men Tell All looks quite juicy. Ratings ratings ratings!!!!!!!!!!
We need to find a girl for Jeremy.
;) He's suffered such loss with is mother and then D.
Well, sorry to have to leave you but I haven't even started dinner.
I'll try to check back to read comments on the second hour of the show.
Enjoy!
I may watch this on Tivo. Have to go get my arse outside for a walk.
I'm sorry-- I don't see why people think Graham is so cute. He has the bod of death that's for sure, but he looks a little like pinnochio to me, ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is what I've been looking forward to all day.
Sounds like lots of sour grapes coming up!
Zoe- there's speculation out there that she chose Jesse because she didn't want it to be down to Jeremy and Jason in the end... she didn't feel it with Jeremy -- he was too perfect -- and hard as it was, if she let him go now, it would hurt him less than to take him to the f2. It's a theory.
I just dont see it with either guy left....truly....
wow, the guys are really all knocking Jeremy down... what did we not see of him? Maybe Deanna made the right decision on that one after all?
Ron doth protest too much. He was and still is, jealous of Jeremy. Period.
Jeremy sounded totally sincere to me. He fell in love with her. She didn't fall in love with him. Very sad.
Here comes Graham.
I thought Graham was pretty straight forward and a gentleman about his comments. He just didn't fall in love with her.
DeAnna says she is happy, she is in love and she is engaged. This, after telling Graham that she is in love with them (Jason and Jessie) both. I'll bet it's Jason, the Accts. Exec. I just don't see her with Jessie, long term. He has no job, she doesn't want to live in a cold climate, even part-time. I'm surprised that it probably will be Jason because she will have to share the limelight with Ty. This is a woman who NEEDS the spotlight on herself. I truly worry about Jason and Ty's feelings.
Why, oh why, does she almost always kiss these guys with her eyes open?
Finale is next week.
You just can't fall in and out of love that fast. I'm just sayin'.
I guess I am in the minority as I never cared for Jeremy. I have liked Jesse from the start, but like the rest of you, is he the one for Deanna? Same for Jason.
Hi all!
Well, here I am again, better late than never on West Coast time. Interesting evening of TV tonight.
I am sorry, but I just don't care for DeAnna. And there is just so much that I find so hypocritical after all the whining about Brad, etc. She can be so petulant and harsh when things don't go exactly the way she wishes. Wake up, girlfriend.
For some reason, this season has "gotten to me". Not sure if the emotions are more raw, or if I just hate to see people hurt, no matter who they are. But how do you go from falling ONLY for Graham to being in love, and ENGAGED, simply through an overnight date in the Bahamas?
I think Jesse would be a terrific friend, and I think he would be fun to know. But she is not going to be happy long term with a boarder, unless the editing has been completely skewed.
I sure hope Jason does not get crushed through this process. He is a sweetheart. Way too "nice" for me (personally), but a great catch and a terrific guy. I have really liked him from the beginning.
Excited to see what everyone thinks after the two hours tonight!
Sydney, can you refer us to any of the "spoilers" that you found? I read a few things online about Graham, but stopped there.
I just don't know how I feel. When she called Jesse first and gave him the rose, I knew it was Jeremy who was going home and it just really caused me to talk out loud to her. OMG, Deanna went nuts.
Somebody please tell me what Jeremy responded to her on the B Tells All when she said she wasn't in love with him. He mumbled something. I played it over and over and couldn't catch what he said. He just looked so devastated. As you all know, I was adamant about his being my pick from the beginning.
And how could she respond that after her date with Jesse and Jason, she knew she was in love with "them". Can't she hear what she's saying. How can she be in love with "them".
I'm don't even care which one she's picking now, cause I can't see where she could possibly make it with either of them. I like Jason OK, but I can't see her taking on the mother role. Jessee may be her type (she liked playing rough house with the guys and was better at it than all of them except Jesse) so maybe the show edited her to appear more fashionable than she really is and therefore, Jesse IS her type.
I've decided I don't like her either! So there!
I so agree with all of you who think D is a very demanding,and strong personality. I hear in her voice that shrill,strident tone that makes me think....wouldn't want to cross her too often. I think,in her family,she's treated like a princess and very used to getting her way,always. Her little temper tantrum at the BBQ said a lot,IMO.I also agree that you can't be "in love" with both guys to the same degree,and not after declaring that Graham was the "only" one you were falling in love with just a week before!!!!
Now,we all know,picking one guy and being engaged means next to nothing for this program. So she may be engaged right now,but let's hope,especially if she chooses Jason,that they take it very slow and her true personality comes out.I think she's a diva and I didn't care for her much when she was head over heels for Brad.
I hated seeing Jason with that scruff on his face and thought Graham looked odd without it.
I thought that too Sharon, about Jason with the beard. I thought he was trying to emulate Graham now that Graham was gone in hopes it would endear Deanna to him.
And I thought that Graham looked odd without it also. I never understood everyone's (for want of another word) infatuation with Graham. He just didn't do it for me, but without the beard he was he was even less attractive.
Zoetawny... I don't think any of the guys had any resemblance to Brad. Brad was just weird, but he obviously made the right decision to send Deanna home, cause they would never had made it together as a couple. She is so demanding he would never have been able to keep her happy!
Dla -- the spoilers to me were found in reading Twilley's interview, followed by the two about Graham at realitytv.com. I also read an interview with Graham that sounded more bitter and arrogant, like he never had any feelings and does NOT wish Deanna well, at ETonline.com.
The spoilers suggested Jeremy was going home, as someone spotted him in a bar in Dallas in mid-May, a bit too tipsy, chatting up his ex-GF. So, lonely and rejected. So I figured he was gone last night and he was.
MEB, I reran what Jeremy said a million times and could not make it out either, but I think he responded to saying Something like my heart just didn't go there with you with "well, mine did". Not the exact words, but the gist I think. And utter silence before he said it and after.
Is Deanna not a demanding Diva but a true southern belle? Isn't this what makes men jump, hop, to try to please a gril (the skill I lack?). Isn't this the kind of girl that gets men wrapped around her finger? I understand there are a few guys who don't go for this (Graham apparently doesn't go for much of anyone in real life).
Sharon, I too mentioned a bit back in last night's comments that I thought Graham looked like pinnochio without the scruff, and never found him that attractive. But the boards are full of (I suspect) 20 and early 30 year olds who think Graham is GREAT and cute and boy are they missing his OBVIOUS problems with intimacy. And dla found his website where he has all kinds of modeling pictures of himself and he is touting his tee shirts that he is selling for charity. Seems so many of these reality TV guys are prepared to hawk something after their time on the air, makes me wonder as to their sincerity. And how can he give the profits to charity if he has no job at the moment? I think charity is the new way to get celebrity attention, and not necessarily done out of the goodness of people's heart as much in young hollywood.
IMHO, Deanna will pick Jason, but they will not get engaged on the show. They decide to spend time with Ty and each other and see if it is really there.... We forget that this show is not shot in real time, which is why most of these couples break up -- they make them wait 3 months and while keeping them apart, the chosen one gets to watch --usually with their friends and family --the person kiss everyone until they can be reunited... if anything I think the PRODUCERS should get a clue about that little problem if they wanted more couples to work out in the end.
But Jason and she would have had some time to work things out and fall more in love and THEN get engaged... hence her coming on the show announcing she is, and ABC's scheduling of their engagement party on June 14th. That's my opinion, not a spoiler, but it makes total sense to me.
I may have a different experience, and I am not 25, where my thoughts and life circumstances were very different. But I don't think it's odd at all that Deanna could fall for one of the other two. She really had to let Graham go and she did give the other three an open minded try. I do think she's driven by her mother's death. She wants to be married and have that solid home, and be a mother early, and she wants someone to take care of her since she, at age 12, was put in the position way too early to take care of herself and the others in her family. I understand that. I think she was harsh on the show unnecessarily. If she makes it with Jason, then I think he will help her to soften that up.
In the last 3 years before I met my husband, I found myself crossing over here and there where I was meeting and even dating a few guys at once for a few weeks at a time. Deanna only has 4-6 weeks here for this show to do that.
I did not find that easy, but I was making the effort to meet someone because I wanted to share my life with a partner, and grow in ways I knew I would never be able to if I was perennially single (which in many ways was really great lol). I was on Match.com, and also met people all the time in the places where my life took me. You have no idea how many people whose paths I crossed :-D
I'm not telling anything you don't know to say there's more than one person you can like, more than one you can lust after and also more than one you can love, or grow to love. And if you are getting to know them all at once, it CAN happen back to back.
Usually the one I had real chemistry with were the ones who were like Graham... they had some reason why they could not open up or go forward. It's not really right but you are so attracted physically that you can't help but give it more tries and it only ends up wasting your time and good energy.
Then there are the ones you click with in different ways. You have some really great dates and you have to give it a few chances, kiss, see if anything can grow, to realize that ultimately it's just not there for the long term. Finding that out IS what dating is all about. And you let them go and it feels like the Jeremy situation -- or Brad and Deanna, if you think they're the one and they let YOU go.
And then there are a few of the really good guys who are nice looking, who you like a lot but who don't bowl you over like the Grahams. BUT you know they have the right stuff long term -- kindness, understanding, generosity of spirit, ability to commit, an open heart, a willingness to stay and work things out. That's how I see Jason (and the guy from Chicago). If you really want a good marriage, this is the one you pick in the end, and love, if it didn't whallop you at first like it does with the unavailable trouble boys, it grows. This kind of man is rare, and rarer the older you get, because those who can get married, DO, at age 27 or 29 or 32 (nowadays).
Sorry for the novel, but that's how I would explain it if it's real. I think Jason can do it, the question is can Deanna sustain the relationship and moving to Seattle?
I must say if she has picked Jason I hope he moves her here to Seattle this summer so she can fall in love with the area. It is a beautiful place in the summer and fall, but if she doesn't like cold and gloomy.....
Sydney--I think what you said is Spot On! The cocoon they are put in is different from the real world and you can have feelings for two people. Although D said she was falling in love with Graham I think is was just the physical part of love--not the security and comfort true love brings.
Most of these couples break-up for just the reasons Syd stated...you sit home watching your partner kiss and profess "strong feelings" for someone else. I do remember Trista saying that her and Ryan would be on the phone with each other for every episode. That way they could talk about how the other was feeling and reacting to the show....maybe that's why they are married!
I have often thought the show sets these couples up to fail...and unfortunately that's what happens to most of them.
meb--I re-ran the show also trying to figure out what Jeremy said and couldn't! ;{ Whatever it was you could tell he was still hurting. Although I haven't really liked Jeremy I felt bad for him. Not only was he rejected by D but then the guys tore into him on the After Show. I even noticed at the end, as they were all milling around talking to each other, no one was talking to Jeremy.
Deanna was pretty harsh to the guys. I don't know why she felt like she had to be defensive and cruel!?
Hope Jason shaves before he meets D's family! It just isn't appealing--to me anyway(of course, I'm a 55 yr. old gray-haired lady who is happy my man still has hair and all his teeth!) LOL
I don't see her picking Jesse. He's 26, wants to have 3 kids by 30, but doesn't know what he going to do after snowboarding?? I think D is looking for more than that.
I'm thinking she will pick Jason because the previews show her wearing a dress the same color as Jason's shirt!!! LOL Hey, it works when I'm at the horse races and I pick the jockey wearing my fav. color!
Any theories on why Jason shows up at D's house when Jesse is there???
sorry--last anon. post was me. I forgot to type my name!!! Senior Moments!!
First of all, I have to agree with joy n that the open eyes during the kissing is driving me batty!
When DeAnna answered Jeremey's questions last night, I am pretty sure what he said was "Harsh!" Could be wrong, but it was something like that.
I don't know if anyone else picked up on it, but Jeremy was hurt to be dumped after they spent the night together. Are we to assume she slept with all three of them? Maybe I'm old fashioned, okay I guess I am, but that part of the show has always bothered me. ABC pimps out the bachelor/bachelorette to whoever makes the final three! Oh well, I suppose most people these days don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Thanks for letting me vent!
~Lucy2
Nana- I think they increase the heat by having both guys meet the parents as usual, but on the same day this time. Odd twist, don't know how that could possibly really work. She prolly doesn't really need her dad's opinion, and also, her mother is gone, so maybe they decided to do it that way.
I vaguely remember something similar happening previously,only in my mind it was two families appeared at the same time. Memory is eluding me... Somebody help!
Lucy2... whatever Jeremy said, you're right, you could tell he was still hurting.
And I also have had trouble with the sharing the suite at the end for all three of them. Of course, we don't know that she's sleeping with all three... hopefully they're just getting to know each other better by being able to talk away from the cameras. I'm not a prude, it's just how can you sleep with three different guys three nights in a row. If I was guy #2 or #3, I'd be like Graham and say "no thanks".
ok, Im in shock still....she kept Jesse, who I really love, but to me her choice should have been between Jason and Jeremy....I saw the look on Jeremy's face when she said "Yes I am in love and Im engaged" I think maybe he was hoping for a reprieve...like she changes her mind or something.
Nan, I just read your comments and Im saying I was laughing and giggling....you are so funny!
I cant imagine Deanna would actually have sex with three different guys three nights in a row...just away from the cameras, etc...I thought Jesse got the best date and fantasy suite...
I'm so glad I didn't miss this episode like I did last week. I was all teary-eyed for Jeremy even during the second half of the show. Ironic, since I've been rooting for Jason all along.
I'm still in shock that she kept Jesse over Jeremy. I wonder if she has regrets off screen but defends her choice on screen.
I don't know about you, but I just can't see her with Jesse for the long term. So, that leaves Jason. I hope she doesn't make her choice out of who's left and not true genuine feelings.
I'm surprised that I'm enjoying this show as much as I am. I gave up on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette after Trista and Ryan. But, sharing it with all of you has made it more interesting and enjoyable.
Just a brief note...
I don't know why I'm not seeing the newest comments after clicking on the side bar link. Just read Nana and Sydney's pertinent comments but didn't say anything about it in my last comment. Guess I'll have to come back later. LOL
I watched both shows over again. It's obvious that DeAnna is still pissed at Graham by the way she spoke to him on The Men Tell All. I can't count all the times that she said she was in love with him over the duration of the season. Plain and simple, he did not reciprocate those feelings for her. She's not over him or she would just let it go.
The fact that she stated to Jeremy that she had fallen in love with both of "them" (Jessie and Jason) speaks volumes about her fickleness. And how she could say that to Jeremy after knowing she hurt him was VERY harsh.
She loves Graham. She loves Jessie and Jason the NEXT week. The week after that, she chooses one that she loves. Come on!
And if I hear one more time about how HER heart is breaking, I think I'll scream. She also keeps repeating that she knows what these guys are going through because she went thru it with Brad. Hasn't she done exactly the same thing? Hasn't she led some of these guys on? Jeremy was shocked to be sent home. Jessie or Jason will be shocked when one of them doesn't get that last rose because she has made both of them believe there is "something there." I realize it is the nature of the game to do this, but for her to declare that she won't do what Brad did to her when she's doing no different really bothers me. Does she truly believe that by stating every five minutes that HER heart is breaking, that that absolves her somehow?
I think she is still in love with Graham. She can't have him because he doesn't want her. She's not about to go home alone again in another season. So she will pick one of these poor saps to save face. They both deserve better.
terry in ca--I wish we would have told you about the site(justnuttv) sooner. When Zoe found it during BB she passed it on to us WC viewers. My hubby thought I was nuts to watch BB on the computer and then again on TV!!! During BB that same site will sometimes show the live feeds, too.
Unfortunately, I have been too busy to watch The Bachelorette via the web. I just read this blog right before I watch the show--I HATE surprises! Even knowing what's going to happen I have cried more this season than I ever have!
I'm starting to not like D again--she has a hard side to her that is not flattering. It's what I saw in her season w/Brad. I wonder if some of it is the bitterness she still has because of Brad?
ZOE- It is odd that it doesn't show you the option to get to the newest posts right off the bat, but I've found you have to select "post a comment"...then when the little box to do so appears, you see at the top and bottom of the comments in BLUE the words new and newest. Click newest and a whole bunch of recent comments will appear.
Guess the first "page" will only hold about 200 comments, and once it continues, it has to shift to a second display page like this. It could just make it easier to find it, We are now at 281 comments, so there may be a third page before long. Hope that helps.
Good grief, I thought I was losing it! I just could not get to the most recent comments to save my life. lol
joy n, I think you nailed it in your post at 9:56pm, and you noted so many of the thoughts that I have been having.
I am also bothered by the contradictions in her comments regarding who she is in love with, and when she was in love with them. Seems to change based on the moment.
I will watch through to the end, as it is like a train wreck that I can't stop watching, but I don't think they deserve what has happened and is about to happen.
Jeremy has grown on me, and I sure shed a few tears for him. I am now wondering if he is much more genuine than I gave him credit for being. It rips me apart to see anyone so devastated, and have to give him credit for being so honest on national TV. I don't even think I would have agreed to appear on the MTA show.
It looked like Graham and Jeremy had both been punched when she announced her engagement. What a way to hear that news...
Keep in mind, I am also the girl who cries after the World Series or NBA Finals, even when "my team" wins, because I feel so bad for the team that lost. :)
too funny dla... crying for the team who didn't win... even when your team is the winner.... I cry easily, but I'm not that bad.
I know what you mean about not finding the newer posts. Didn't happen to me on this one, but there was another one a while back that this same thing happened and I'm typing all kinds of things, like "why aren't you guys commenting", and then I repeated almost everything that everyone else had already commented on, and then when I posted, it posted at the end of the newest posts. I really felt stupid, so I just pretended I didn't do it.
NOW... I have a theory ... Deanna has ditched whoever she chose at the end of the show, and in these last three months has met someone new and is engaged to them. How's that for a thought? I just can't see her with either of the two who are left, for different reasons.
Reality TV World (love that place) has a new interview with Jeremy. I really like this guy now. He states that he thinks DeAnna will end up with Jessie because of her need to be number one in anyone's life and Jason wouldn't be able to give her that. It's a good interview worth reading. Jeremy also says that he's started dating someone. I'm happy for him.
Meb, that's a theory I hadn't thought of. I kind of hope you're right.
Dia, I agree that D's news of being in love and engaged looked like a shocker to both J and G. I'm even wondering if it was meant to do that, particularly to Graham. A woman scorned........?
Nana, I also see again the DeAnna that was on the Bachelor with Brad. The one who wasn't very nice to the other girls. As this season has gone on, the "real" D has re-emerged. Jeremy speaks of that DeAnna in the above mentioned interview.
I didnt care for Deanna on the Bachelor, but I hated the way Brad ditched both girls. He seemed like a sucessful horndog who just wanted to be on TV.
Now if she picks Jessie then Jeremy is right, cause for all the world how nice he is, she couldnt live in a snowboard apartment...ever. She is kidding herself if she thinks it will work.
I dont think she is ready to be a ready made Mom either.
I was already a Mom when my husband and I blended our family and he had one son...it took sYEARS to work it all out. I dont think she has it in her.
I now vot for Jeremy for bachelor!!!
I second that nomination, Terry!
I actually made it back here. I always say I'll go back later and then RL happens and my priorities change on a daily basis. ;)
I just had to learn more about Brad so I watched a couple of videos and read some interviews. I know everyone dislikes him but I have to give him some credit for not leading D on any further and backing out at the end. Not that I like him, but it would be worse to give her a ring and then back out after the show was over. I can't get a good feel for his real personality but I can see now why D was so attracted to Graham. Both Graham and Brad look very much alike physically, imo. I think I surmised right, D wasn't over Brad. You can't open your heart to someone new if you're still pining for another. I think D's determination to find a fiance did have something to do with showing Brad he didn't get the better of her. I'm not convinced that whoever she chose is for the right reasons.
Watched the "guys tell all" again and now I don't think I like D very much at all. She was unnecessarily harsh and showed her narcissistic side. She couldn't wait to jump in to say she was engaged. I almost feel sorry for the guy because I don't see it ending in a happy marriage.
I hope I'm wrong and she doesn't break someone's heart.
Joy...
You are so right...D wants a fiance for all the wrong reasons. She does seem much too needy. She's so pretty and young, she doesn't need to feel that way. But, I'm sure there are other underlying issues, for one, losing her mom so young.
joy n said...
7/01/2008 9:56 PM
Spot on!!!!!!!!
Nana...
Love and dating just isn't what it used to be, is it? Enjoyed your comments!
Sydney...
Thanks for help with the post order.
I'll nominate Jeremy for the Bachelor, too. :)
Two shows for Bachelorette next week, one where she gives her rose to one of them and then another one where she meets with both Jason and Jesse. What's that all about?
Maybe my theory is right and she's already dumped the one she chose on the show and has met a new guy and gotten engaged since then.
Hmmmmm?
Reality TV World is at it again. They have two new interviews, both with DeAnna.
In one, she discusses the rejected bachelors.She sounds all nicey-nice again, except where she still whines about being ignored at the BBQ.
In the other, she talks about her big happy ending, the BIG wedding that she MUST have and, also says she would NOT be averse to having the wedding televised ala Trish and Ryan. She says she will keep her home in Atlanta because Atlanta will always be home to her.
The interview sounds like she did make a choice between Jason and Jessie. I still prefer your thery, Meb.
The blog won't let me through again. I've typed this twice already, so I'm hitting anon to get it thru.
joyn
Back on board again, I think. grumble,grumble,grumble.
I read the tv information again for the next Bachlorette and it says the second episode is where she explains to the final two bachelors the reason for her choice. Did they ever do this before? It just sounds strange that she would put the guy not chosen thru this while the guy she chose is sitting "gloating" so to speak. Sorry, but something is fishy here????? What am I missing?
That does sound weird. I don't remember them ever doing anything like this before. I wonder if D requested a follow-up show for some odd reason.
OK.. how about this... She didn't take either of them, and then pursued Graham further after the show and after she read his note to her. And now she and he are engaged and that's why she would say in an interview that she wants to do a TV wedding like Trista. I don't think they would consider doing a TV wedding unless it was someone who was on the show. Graham was just there at the BTellAll to throw us all off.
Well, it's possible this is what's happened! I just hate it when they pull something over my eyes, so I try to guess all types of scenarios.
Just read this on ABC Primetime. ABC Primetime says: Who will DeAnna choose, Jessie or Jason? Don't miss our two-hour finale of The Bachelorette! And stay tuned for the After The Final Rose Special to see how the happy couple is doing now.
What? There is definitely something different going on here. I'm still thinking that D has something to do with this added hour. Maybe damage control for her harshness on The Men Tell All? If they're thinking of televising the wedding, they wouldn't want her to leave the "fans" with a bad taste in their mouths.
Again, this girl wanted a wedding and she's going to have it one way or another. She can be that center of attention she craves and have ABC foot the lavish bill, to boot.
She's 26. She wants three kids and said she wants to have them before she turns 30. She was in love with 3 men in two weeks. She's now had about six months, I guess, to convince him that he really is the one. If I were him, I'd run. Fast and far away. Jeremy is probably thanking his lucky stars right now.
And I can just picture her thumbing her nose at Brad!
I may be wrong, but I believe in the past the finale night has been the first hour the guys meet her family, the second hour is picking out the ring and re-hashing how the guys got to be the final two(boring) and then she picks. Then they have another hour of "After the Rose" show.
What is new is the following week's " Engagement Party". ABC is going to have to do a lot of fast work to put that together in one week. The guy will not have been able to tell his family until Mon....that's alot of traveling arrangements to make if they are going to the party.
Yep, these last few weeks D's true colors have come out. I agree she is a high maintenance girl who wants a big wedding SOON!
Another gem from RTVW -
J.T Torregiani (Paula Abdul's recent ex) is in talks to be the next Bachelor. He'd been asked 2 years ago to do it, but he met Paula and didn't.
Now single, Torregiani - is a partner in The Dolce Group, the Los Angeles Restaurant group that was co-founded by Big Brother 2nd season houseguest and ALL STARS winner Mike "Boogie" Malin - is now reconsidering being The Bachelor's next star, slated to be part of ABC's 2008-09 midseason, primetime lineup.
On the count of three, we can all start dry-heaving!
joy n......say it isnt so....blech! they better not choose him who needs another cebelb seeking creep...
on the promos please tell me, did any of you also hear what I did? the sound of maybe Jeremy's voice I think and camera following someone to a door and him saying "shes making a big mistake I have to talk to her"
whaaaaat?
Is this gonna be like the time that stalker chick broke in on the couple?
I would rather she pick Jason, Seattle is great, and they can go to Atlanta for hot.
My friend calls it Hotlanta.
I think Jesse is adorable, but not for her.
Im almost hoping they both propose but jeremy is standing up on a balcony yelling DONT DO IT! like in the Graduate? hahhaaaa...
what canI say its hot here on the 4th of July...
ZOETAWNY...if I was on that horse, the poor guy would be up to his ears trying to swim with me on him!
I was reading Deanna's interview regarding the finale and I noticed something that might point to who she chose. When talking about Jason, she spoke in past tense, but when she discussing Jesse, she used present tense. It may be nothing, of course, maybe it was the way that the questions were asked...but maybe not. I absolutely love Jason, but I want him to be happy, so if Deanna is not really over Brad yet or ready to move on, then I hope that she doesn't choose Jason since Ty is involved too.
My thought is that she will choose Jesse because she wants to be #1 in someone's life, but I don't see it lasting if she chooses him. I really don't think that he is ready for marriage at this point and I think that Deanna's attraction to him is just because he is different. After a while that gets old.
I got that same impression from reading the interview and then thought I was reading too much into it. I have a feeling that whomever she ends up with, he will have to deal with the "real" DeAnna, the one who appeared on The Bachelor with Brad and also came out a bit on The Men Tell All last week. I agree, I hope it turns out to be Jessie, rather than Jason, for Jason's and Ty's sake. I believe Jessie could handle her diva-ness better and could walk away more easily, if it became necessary.
Joy, I think Deanna definitely announced it with glee to hit Graham in the gut.BUt it's alos clearly news the producers want heard, and that kind of thing is planned, Chris had to know about it, etc...
That also tells me that she does not get engaged at the end of the show, though I think she will get at least a proposal from Jason. Otherwise why would the show allow her to spoil the suspense of this coming Monday's MOST suspenseful ep?
Good theory Meb... for a moment I wondered if she would turn down both, reconnect with Graham and do the engaged show, but not with the MTA show.
I don't think Jesse has the maturity to make her #1 , as Jeremy predicts, when the honeymoon so to speak is over and real life sets in.
Okay, I just discovered one of the mysteries in the promo for tomorrow night's show. The mystery man that tells Deanna that she is making a mistake is...Brad. I am reading the Columbus Dispatch (OH) TV Log and it says; "Eat your heart out,Brad. Told "thanks but not thanks" in an 11th-hour surprise by Brad Womack on the Bachelor..."
For some reason I was thinking that it was Jeremy that tried to get her to change her mind, but I have to admit that this is actually more of a surprise.
Sydney, I'm sure the producers and Chris did know about the planned announcement. And I'm sure that it was planned to create more excitement for the upcoming engagement and the possibly televised wedding episodes.
I think it was totally DeAnna's personal plan to twist that knife a little deeper into Graham's back with that very public announcement. He didn't give her what she wanted all season. She gave him what she wanted on that episode. VERY harsh!
Tami, DeAnna has got to love the opportunity to nix Brad (back) on national TV.
The cable guide says DeAnna "accepts a proposal that will change her life forever" on the finale.
"change her life forever" well...yeah....duh....anything would.
But Brad coming in to "counsel" her? that would be way beyond tacky....Hasnt he kept a low profile?
I have been so in to this season, and now I'm just glad tomorrow it will be over!
She has started to bother me, and I really wanted to be on her side...but then....who cares?
Very very harsh, I agree. Apparently DeAnna has the ability to wrap producers around her little finger as well... what is all this with them cow-towing to her?
TAMI!!! I can't believe you found that information!
What I don't know is why on earth Brad would come back to say don't do it to DeAnna. He has to know that she would only stick it to him, and he doesn't need money so it's not like he'd do it for money. It sure doesn't recessatate his poor image out there in Tv land, dating land or the business world to do it... so WHY?
For an outline of tonight's showing... but this poster still thinks the mystery bachelor who confronts her in the Bahamas is Jeremy. I'd think that too but for Tami's post....
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-bachelorette/the-bachelorette-4-season-fina-20985.aspx
I'm also wondering about the cowtowing. How does she get both bachelors to meet her parents at the same time? Seems that would only benefit her. It has to be very awkward for the two guys and possibly uncomfortable for her family.
Here we go!
Apparently that is Deanna's own house... in which case it looks surprisingly BLAND does it not?
NO one in the family looks at all like Deanna... myabe her brother has her dark eyes.
Jason says to D's sister that he has NEVER felt like this ever... now he is not a pushover is he? What is it about Deanna that is so amazing to a great guy like Jason?
Ooooh, he asked her dad for permission to propose to her. Dad is IMPRESSED as no one has asked himt hat before.
Jason is so good, he really looks people deep in people's eyes. I think he is so impressive. Now Jesse is a cool guy, and has the hot factor in terms of being interesting to Jason's all around good guy. I don't think the family - or the dad -- will like Jesse as much.
Dad nailed it about Jason -- he said "he's a gem of a guy"
do we all agree that she will pick one guy,but postpone accepting the proposal tonight? Regardless that we know there is an "engagement show" next week??
Matt and Shayna are supposed to appear on After The Final Rose to give an update of their relationship. I know he had moved out of her condo.
DeAnna's dad seems to really like Jason.
You're right, Sydney, she doesn't really resemble any of her family members. Maybe she looked like her mom?
Spoiler Alert!
I read some rumors that Jesse has a girl friend. I also read that she chooses Jason, but they've already broken up. I'm sure rumors are abounding so we'll have to just see for ourselves.
D's family seemed to like Jason. But, her father did seem concerned about Jason's son.
I don't know, Sydney, the cable guide says she does accept a proposal tonight.
Jesse...lol...does D's father know what "rad" means?
Sydney...
If you put aside the gender difference, D does resemble her dad.
Oh Oh! I'm not sure D's family likes Jesse but they're trying to be polite.
Joy, do you think it's a yes but let's put the ring away and take a few months to get to know eachother? Or if it's Jason, she has the perfect yes but excuse because of Tye.
Her dad won't say he'd be happy with either one. Red flag!!!!
I think dad is a bit rough on the beaux, especially Jessie.
Jesse doesn't have as much "class" as Jason...not asking her dad for her hand in marriage.
8:28pm - Sydney. Quite possible.
OK, the Bachelor that shows up for the visit was Jeremy... I saw his profile clearly when he was walking toward the door. His arm and hand also is very dark, and Brad was a pale guy. Jeremy makes more sense to be who shows up.
LOL Is one of them rich? Was that her grandmother?
Augh, those awful, plaid, stayed-in-the-drier-too-long short sleeved shirts that Jesse is wearing! If that is still his funky thing, there are a LOT cooler shirts I could put him in. LOL
Jason arrives wagging his behind, excited as usual. I do feel bad for Jesse as he pales in comparison to Jason in the meet the family dept.
But this could be editing to lead us somewhere...
It's hard for me to understand how D could be so ambivilent if she really truly loves one of them...Jason/Jesse.
The poor guys are put on the hot seat at the same time.
Is it possible that Jeremy comes back and she DOES go with him, and the guy with the drak skin and hair whose hand she is holding crying is JASON"S??? again, she can use the excuse of TYE...
And then it was all a ruse at the MTA with Jeremy looking so heartbroken? Now THAT would be a twist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zoetawny - 8:23 - I hope you're right on both counts!
Jesse is making some connection with the grandparents.... ANd he looks relaxed by the time they get to the meal.
good point Zoe!!!!
Ah, I'm getting confused! This is going to be one interesting finale.
Jesse is doing better with her family. Jason is more reserved which I hope doesn't hurt him. Her grandmother likes Jason. YES!
They all seem to be warming up to Jessie now.
Jesse is also making the sister and sister in law comfortable. And NOW jesse asks Dad for his blessing.. what does the Dad say when he is not the guy for Deanna in his mind.
Jesse is so head over heels over D that he's not thinking about anything other than the romantic side of it. I think D wants romance but she also wants more stability than maybe a snowboarder can provide.
Dad is taking his time answering Jesse and is being very doubtful, hesitant and nicely neutral in answering his request for his blessing. Wow, poor Jesse, it's hard to compete with Jason The Apparently Perfect Man.
Jesse finally asks permission. I'm impressed.
Sydney...is "rad" like "awesome? LOL Even my grandsons don't use that word anymore.
Jessie asked Dad's permission to pursue his daughter. But Dad says Jessie has to keep his hair short. I LIKE Jessie's hair, long or short.
WHy is Jason sweating on the forehead all the time? BEADS of sweat and the scruffy Graham look.
ISn't it funny that JAson is at times or certain angles kinda geeky, and Jesse is all wrong but at times really sexy?
I still want her to pick Jason, but I'm feeling the editing and it's pointing to Jesse! :( If she does choose Jesse, ABC left a lot on the editing room floor. I just didn't see the connection as the show progressed.
Joy -- I like that you like Jesse's hair long, lol!
(i do too)
I think D is too sophisticated for Jesse but is impressed with how deeply he's fallen in love with her. Jesse is a sweetheart but needs a more laid-back type of girl.
Oh Monty, I did see the connection... I know what you mean, that he was not so prevalent in the first several eps. But once they kissed she really wanted it and there was no closed mouth open eyed room between the bodies kisses for him like she gave to everyone else, even Graham. They were pressed together and snogging quite deeply, lol.
That was on the date on whatever island they all went to. She kisses Jason, but it was not as intense. And then how hot was it when he snowboarded down the mountain with her on his back? And he could actually slow dance decently when she took him on the date in the theater with the marquee. I was impressed with that.
ITA! Jesse looks better with long hair. He looks dorky with shorter hair.
Why does D keep expecting her family to make her choice? D should be more sure of who she wants.
Good advice from the sister about Jesse.
How tough it must be for these two guys to see her treat them the same at this late date. How could she think it would be a good idea to have them both there at the same time. One of the two is going to be hurt so bad. She could have handled this situation differently to spare their feelings. Again, her decisions seem to be all about her, at their expense.
She STILL doesn't know which one. That really bothers me.
Wow, amazing how D puts it -- tonight one GUY'S dreams are going to come true and one 's heart is going to be broken. Un, hello... she put it not that her dreams would come true but THEIRS would be. Kinda funny.
I think D feels more child-like and free with Jesse but does that last in the real world with real life issues to deal with?
Joy...
I agree with you that D is very narcissistic.
It looks like she treats Jeremy with respect in the coming scenes. Why'd she treat him so shabbily last week with all the guys there? I'm assuming tonight's scene was filmed before that one.
Zoe, I'm sure the producers make her ask the family what they think, as all the bachelors and bachelorettes have. But she does look quite serious and crushed when bother her dad and then the sister and sister in law spoke about Jason being the right guy. I think she is more attracted to Jesse and it is tough for her to hear the family's answers favoring Jason.
Here it goes, it's Jeremy talking to her. DISHY!!!!
She keeps mentioning BRAD. OY!
Where is the make up girl - Jeremy is always in need of major powder.
What does it's just not in my heart mean??? I think it means I don't want to bonk you?
She's described it that way before... she doesn't have the major chemistry with him I guess.
My heart so goes out to Jeremy. He's fighting for the woman he loves and she doesn't love him.
well, she is leveling with him, so I have to give her some credit. She is a little dramatic but I feel like she is not bullshitting him.
So what was the Men Tell All all about when he said he never got a chance to have his questions answered?
Poor Jeremy! My heart goes out to him. He's better off walking away, and after reading his RTVW interview, I think he knows it now.
joy n said...
My heart so goes out to Jeremy. He's fighting for the woman he loves and she doesn't love him.
7/07/2008 9:02 PM
Exactly! You can't force yourself to love someone, even if he looks like the "right" one. I'm sure Jeremy has girls lining up but now he's going to be even more garded.
Jeremy for the next Bachelor!
Gee, this looks so set up to rehabilitate Deanna's image after she burnt it on that Men tell all show.
I saw a myspace with Jesse and there were typically young pix of Jesse and girls who were mad that he dumped them or something... but that said, he is only 25 and fun loving, and there is always a girl that makes boys want to grow up.
Sydney said...
What does it's just not in my heart mean??? I think it means I don't want to bonk you?
7/07/2008 9:01 PM
Maybe she did and it didn't go well. LOL My bad!
I think she definitely has a more romantic connection with Jessie.
Maybe Jason is security?
If her sister adn sister in law said that Deanna is a free spirit, then maybe we don't see it on camera and she really is more suited to Jesse... look how clear that water is!!
Give it a few years, real life will set in adn you will need to talk about who pays what bills and that your fertility may be off etc... Can jesse step up to her expectations in that case? He WILL be older by then... we shall see.
Jesse is showering D with attention and his heart. She loves it! If D chooses Jesse their relationship will be "all about D".
RE: JEsse and Deanna in their room after the last date, and he is reading the little book he made her:
I don't know Monty, I see it with Jesse and Deanna in terms of chemistry and connection.
I don't know about the rest, as I just wrote about, but I do see the connection.
I honestly believe no matter who she ends up with, it will be "all about D".
God thought Zoe -- I do think that a lot of nothing happens in those fantasy suites overnight. A few ppl do go all the way, some prolly fool around enough just to see if that all "works" but I bet that 1/2 of them just snuggle together and talk and kiss and end up snoozing fully dressed.
Who can maintain all about just the one person in the relationship for life? I guess some can. Gee, I wish it was all about ME in the relationship! Lol
Sydney said...
Give it a few years, real life will set in adn you will need to talk about who pays what bills and that your fertility may be off etc... Can jesse step up to her expectations in that case? He WILL be older by then... we shall see.
That's what I'm thinking. Jesse is in love with love. That is admirable but not very practical. D did ask Jesse what is he going to do after snowboarding and so did her dad.
Joy...
Maybe you're right about the "free spirit" idea. Maybe D doesn't want the responsibility of Jason's son right now. But, marriage in the real world is also a responsibility.
I agree she does have chemistry with Jesse but I just don't see it lasting. Now I'm as confused as D. LOL
Jason can afford to take her on "adventures".
She likes the board game from Jason more than the book from Jessie.
Did she say something about not wanting anyone else to know?
OK, she siad it "I'm in love with two totally different guys. I don't know what I am going to do tomorrow or how I am going to let one go home."
Now I can see having two or three husbands, especially if it's all about me, can't you girls???
One of these guys is about to have his heart broken badly very soon here.
She says she is "in love with two totally different guys here."
I agree she liked Jason's game board better Joy. It's a great idea to walk thru all the dates that way.
Sydney said...
Who can maintain all about just the one person in the relationship for life? I guess some can. Gee, I wish it was all about ME in the relationship! Lol
7/07/2008 9:17 PM
Nobody can do that for too long. Resentment always creeps in. D still has a lot of growing up to do. I still see anger issues over Brad and now she wants to be #1 even more intensely.
You want to go with the guy who "makes you feel safe, who you know you can count on, who you already have seen will be a great father" when you are all abaout having a few kids in the next few years.....
she siad all this about Jason.
Here we go again..."I'm in the same postition as BRAD".
crap, in writing that I missed what she had to say about Jesse... can anyone tell me?
Brad, Brad, Brad! Sheesh, get over it, girl!
Oh Jason PLEASE SHAVE
Sydney said...
You want to go with the guy who "makes you feel safe, who you know you can count on, who you already have seen will be a great father" when you are all abaout having a few kids in the next few years.....
she siad all this about Jason.
That would be my choice but then I'm not D. LOL Jason is also romantic but more practical.
Jesse, are you all caught up with the mood this show creates? I think he thinks he's serious....and everyone says he's so grounded? I also think he's hot, but why don't I have more confidence in him long term?
She likes the way Jessie makes her feel whenever they're together.
It's killing me that someone's heart is going to be broken...on national TV to boot.
Isn't it show night?
I should go feed my family but tonight it's "all about me" watching the Bachelorette. LOL
Oh CRAP, this is IT. WHICH one of the guys will come first????? I will feel so bad for Jesse if it's not him. Somehow I think Jason will fall in love again easily and be totally appreciated by a million other women if it's not him.
My heart is beating fast!
ok ignore that I was in the main screen and it wasn't showing any of tonights conversation LOL
As it should be Zoe (all about you)
And purrbal -- yes! It is the finale tonight. Aren't you in Central time???? are you missing it?
no Pacific time ...hasn't started but I love to get the skinny before hand.
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