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AP is actually ruining the game. It makes Eric do things that are not strategic to the game or himself. No wonder Eric looks like such as weasal. The spotlight also brings out the worst in him. Patty Q Send Danielle home!
i am perplexed as to why big brother allows dick to continue to rant on jameka about her christianity. here is the thing....i would be willing to place a large wager that if it was someone abusing kaysar the way they are allowing dick to abuse jameka abuot his muslim faith, it would have been stopped immediately. lets be fair.
Couple of things...I think that Eric should be given credit for at least attempting to do the AP requests even if they're not in his best interest (which they haven't been from day one). I think that he wishes he didn't have this burden because he knows he's smarter than everyone in the household and it would have been easier to manipulate them had he not been put in the AP position. I'm not saying he's God's gift to the earth, but I think he does deserve credit for trying.
Next, I was watching Showtime last night and I think it finally became clear that all those people who have been claiming that Dick is just honest are completely wrong about him. I've read here many times how Dick just says what other people are thinking like this should absolve him from taking responsibility for his censorless self. Last night he was having a conversation with Dani and Zack and Zack told him that Jameka is running the moves behind Jessica and Dick goes, "Oh good, now I'll really lay into about the hypocrite Christianity stuff." So this proves that he goes out of his way to antagonize other people (especially women which is really disconcerting to me). It's not honesty---it's blatnat MEANNESS and ABUSIVENESS. No wonder he's not married and I'm wondering how he got anyone to sleep with him twice to produce two children, but that's another story. And now he's taken to throwing garments and such on the roof and whatnot. I even heard him tell Dani last night that he was going to toss the croquet balls on the roof after they were done playing so no one else could play. How ridiculous is that?
One funny line out of his mouth last night was him calling Dustin a dildo with ears. LMAO.
I don't give Eric any credit whatsoever. He's a weasel because HE chose to be a weasel. He went into the game with an advantage over everyone else AND he got paid for it! He's a scumbag in my opinion and if he gets to the final two, all the other HGs have a right to be furious as well with CBS and calling them out for all the diary room sessions where they begged contestants to keep him in the game, lawsuits be damned.
Anon 9:39 and susieq, I could not agree with you more. I was just looking at joker's and the things he is doing to Dustin are horrendous. I won't even repeat the things he is saying to him. They are obviously geared towards Dustin's sexuality and I find it disgusting. He has gone after Dustin for being gay, Jameka for being Christian and Amber for being an addict. I am also in recovery and the things he is saying to her are awful. He is asking if her daughter ever saw her high, if she ever found her stash. I have 13 years clean, but I can clearly remember what it was like in the early stages of sobriety. Amber is not my favorite of the group, but I am feeling for her. Personally I think Dick has crossed way too many boundaries and should be thrown out of the house. I can't believe CBS has let it get this far.
ditto eja...I'm shocked CBS is letting Dick rant and rave at the HGs as much as it seems he has been this a.m. (I peeked at Joker's too, sorry Jackie, I was hoping to see who's playing POV.) He's acting like a flipping lunatic and harrassing them to no end. Scary. I think I'd be in tears...I don't know how Amber is holding it together. ~SharonS
Someone asked some time in the last few days, what could be done to change the game. I have an idea. I think every voting time, a random hg should lose a turn to vote. There could be a Big Wheel to spin and the hg name that comes up on the dial doesn't get to cast a vote. I also think that if America gets a vote, the hg should know about it. I know that would tell them who is hated or who is a favorite, but it would also keep the house vote off center. Thank you Jackie, Sue
This game is becoming less and less about reality and more of a script pushed by the producers. The DR is telling info to the hgs and suggestions on how to vote. When the hgs talk to other hgs about it they turn the feeds off. There are youtubes verifing this. That really destroys the game not to mention it just increases the idea that others can be in on this extemely fake DR experience. I predict unless the producers clean up their act; this could be the last year for this show or at least taken out of the reality category. The producers have their choice of the winner and they will be directing the hgs in that direction.
I'm with you guys, I'm appalled at what is on Joker's from 9 AM to 11 AM. Dick is verbally assaulting Amber and Dustin. None of it has anything to do with "truth" or "saying what everyone else is thinking". Two terms which Dick fans need to stop using to try to justify their fondness or admiration of this abusive misogynist.
If he was yelling at his wife, girlfriend or next door neighbor like this he would be brought up on abuse and assault charges. You don't have to touch someone to assault them.
I found this in an online Law Dictionary: Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact.
If Dick was banging on pots and pans and screaming in your face that he was going to "f**k till you bled to death" how would it make you feel?
CBS should get Dick out of the house and then find out if any of the HG's want to press charges. The idea that it is OK to commit crimes against another because it's "just a game" is absurd and offensive. This level of abuse is unprecented in the BB house and Dick should suffer the consequences of his actions and be forcibly removed, not allowed to be on the jury, not allowed to be any longer in any way connected to the show.
Eric's stupid incest remarks pale in comparison to Dick's behavior. At what point is enough enough CBS?
Again, for all of you all fed up with Dick and his mouth...
Why is it OK for Eric to make remarks about incest in regards to Daniele and Dick-- no one around here thinks that is inappropriate.
I'm sorry you all Jameka is a hypocrite. As another blog says: "I think Jameka may truly aspire to (leading a righteous life) but her actions in the house show how far she is from achieving it. She says the worst thing you can do is reject God. I think God may be more concerned with how we treat each other than showing him respect... Then Jameka goes on about how no matter what you do "you can be forgiven." Which is how Jameka uses her religion. She does what she wants and then prays for forgiveness."
Actions speak louder than words kids, and she doesn't say much except "ummmhmm"
And FYI: Verbal attacks are encouraged in the rule book
SusieQ... I couldn't disagree with you more. As for Dick antagonizing Jameka? Yes, but that has nothing to do with how we discuss how he is forward with his thoughts & words & the other 'nerds' are sneaky with theirs. Also, IMO, Jameka follows D&D around all day (they even discussed it last night) in an attempt to either stop their game talk or to antagonize. So if Jameka was bothered by it, why on earth would she go out of her way to encourage it & seek Dick out. So how is antagonizing someone not being honest?? He is honestly telling her that she is a hypocrit(I agree, she is)each & every time she comes around him. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
As for the throwing of items, this is a game & many times on many seasons, I have seen this silly kind of behavior. Being locked in a house for as long as they are with people they detest, strange & silly behavior is bound to insue. I'm sure in real life, they don't steal peoples clothes and hide them. lol!!! This is a game & IMO, it all goes with the territory. I've often thought of applying for this show, but if I was in this house, I don't know if I could have shown as much restraint as they all do. I'm a non-violent person who leads a peaceful life, but this bunch makes me want to "bitch-slap" each one of them.
eja... But it is okay for Amber to bash the jews? It is okay for Dustin, Amber & Eric to say that Dick & Daniele will probably have sex in sequester? For Jameka to call a minister a bitch? For Eric to threaten to use Ambers abortion secret against her? If your going to call out anyones particualr behavior, you have to look at the big picture here and realize that "most" in this house have crossed a line a time or two. Dick knows he is going home & is throwing out all the ammo. If Jameka didn't want her religion being attacked, she should have kept it private like Kail (Kail was smart to know that it would have put a target on her back) If Amber was so sensitive about her drug past (& I think her issues are much deeper than that) then she shouldn't have broadcasted her entire life & body for all to see & read about.
They have all attacked Dick's mistakes in his past & his relationship with his daughter, but I don't feel the need to call CBS & complain about it. They are ALL using whatever ammo they can to rip eachother apart... Once again, Dick is just more vocal about his.
Deanna, I am not condoning any of the behaviours that you have listed. I have been disgusted at the amount of ignorance in this house from the start. I am talking about screaming in someone's face that you are going to f*** them until they bleed. What Dick is doing is verbally assaulting and intimidating these people. The others are idiots, yes, but come on. If Dick was outside of the house and he did to me any of the things that happened this morning, I would have a restraining order on him and file charges so fast...I don't see why this behaviour is being allowed in BB land. For that matter, how anyone could justify it.
Anon 2:24... I looked up assault as well in an Online dictionary.
"With intent to cause serious physical injury to another person, he causes serious physical injury to any person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument."
If you think that by verbally ripping someone apart, or talking of it makes it assault, then it proves my theory that people in this world are too "sue happy". I don't think that Dick truly desires to hurt anyone or I think he is the type who would just do it. If the HG's truly feared for their lives, they would show that type of behavior by avoiding him at all costs, telling the producers or just leaving the show. Calling it assault is just ridiculous IMO....
Eja... He also said to Jameka "Lick my Balls", but I don't think she is fearing a midnight attack where she will be forced to, or she wouldn't be following him around all day prevoking him. Bottom line, Dick says things that he knows will rattle the people & disgust them (proof by your post), but I have never felt his true intent was to ever cause physical harm. If he ever crosses that line, THEN I will say it has gone too far! Until then, it is his game plan & I fear more of the people who secretly talk of hating Jews & incest.
if you go to Nolo.com, which is considered an authority on general legal matters, you can find defintions of assault and sexual harassment. I think Dick has come very close, if not already done so, to crossing the line with respect to some of his comments. If Eric were to repeat his horrid comments to their faces in a threatening way, he'd be guilty also. I don't condone Eric's stupid "jokes", but, legally, they don't seem up to par with what Dick has been doing the last few days. However, laws are enforced more when the victims yell "stop," and so far they seem to be trying to ignore his nastiness.
I'd hate to live with any of them, but I'd be terrified living with Dick...in control of who he's verbally attacking or not.
Anonymous said... I don't give Eric any credit whatsoever. He's a weasel because HE chose to be a weasel. He went into the game with an advantage over everyone else AND he got paid for it! He's a scumbag in my opinion and if he gets to the final two, all the other HGs have a right to be furious as well with CBS and calling them out for all the diary room sessions where they begged contestants to keep him in the game, lawsuits be damned.
8/11/2007 12:52 PM
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Wow. Sore sport much? It was just a remark. No need to get all in a huff about it.
PlaidChick said... Again, for all of you all fed up with Dick and his mouth...
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No one has said that Eric's comments were acceptable. I don't think I've seen ONE person say anything favorable about Eric's incest comment at all. Eric is verbally attacking anyone, though. Dick is doing the verbal attacking. Both he and Danielle make fun of Dustin's gayness nonstop. Why aren't the gays up in arms over that? Nothing is off limits to Dick as far as attacking other people goes.
On the Jameka front...unless Jameka is God, she's going to be a human being and make mistakes like all the rest of the world. Of course she's a hypocrite. I think we can all agree with you on that one and no one is denying it. On the other hand, who isn't a hypocrite at some point in their lives? I'm a hypocrite a lot and it's not even like I try.
I watched Showtime2 last night. Dick was so funny. He was just raggin on Jameka about God, and all I heard from her was heavy breathing while she was practicing croquet. Dick does have good points, but to make them he crosses the line. Somebody has got to tell him to knock it off. It's a game. I guess they're scared. He would give me a headache if I was there. Just too much.
Deanna said... Eja... He also said to Jameka "Lick my Balls", but I don't think she is fearing a midnight attack where she will be forced to, or she wouldn't be following him around all day prevoking him. Bottom line, Dick says things that he knows will rattle --------------
I think the problem we are having in this discussion is that the Dick camp excuses Dick's behavior time and again while those who seem to be sort of siding with Eric will at least acknowledge that he's said some pretty bad things.
Those in the Dick camp apparently think yelling "LICK MY BALLS" is acceptable behavior and all in good fun.
I see two different views on Dick being presented here today. I don't like to brag, but I am really observant that way. : ) Here is what the love/hate feelings Dick creates come from, in my opinion. Transference. Those of you who know a Dick (cool guy who knows music and how to dress the part) and like him, relate those feeling to this Dick, and forgive him his transgressions and want to stick up for him. While those of you who knew a Dick who was not likeable (was abusive, dangerous, antisocial and just down right mean) you put those qualities on this Dick. So the feelings you carry for your Dick may keep you from seeing clearly who this Dick is. I happen to know two Dicks...one good and one not. Frankly, neither one in reality has much in common with this Dick, whose actions are becoming very (wait for it...) Pre-Dick-Able. Okay, I'm done now. Sue
Sue............you are just too funny!! And that is what needs to be done in this forum,everybody needs to lighten up and take a few steps back and quit this bashing of anybody who doesn't agree with their point of view! Every time this show comes on,it elicits this kind of reactions,so I guess that's part of this "social experiment" called BB too.And....it's just a game,people!
And,Susieq,I thought Jackie has asked us ALL,more than once to stop the personal attacks on fellow posters. I see no need for you to repeat other's posts and then go after them or add your pithy comments. Talk about the hgs all you want,but I have a right to state MY opinion just as much as you do.
Sharon said: And,Susieq,I thought Jackie has asked us ALL,more than once to stop the personal attacks on fellow posters. I see no need for you to repeat other's posts and then go after them or add your pithy comments. Talk about the hgs all you want,but I have a right to state MY opinion just as much as you do.
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I post what someone has said so you all know who I am referring to. I'm not picking on anyone, I'm trying to make my post coherent. I am commenting regarding their comments just as they are commenting about mine even if they don't copy my comments at the top.
If you are implying that my pithy comments are attacking anyone, then perhaps you need to look that word up in the dictionary. They are my OPINIONS, just like yours. Certainly I'm not assualting anyone since we've all discussed THAT word to death and decided Dick's behavior isn't assualt so I can hardly believe anyone would say my comments are ATTACKING anyone. Please.
PS. You are not my mother. If Jackie has a problem with my comments, she is free to delete them.
I should have logged on earlier. Thd discussions are better than the show itself. In an earlier post, someone looked up a definition of assault. The definition that was given was for aggrevated assault. Another degree of assault is simple assault, which is a misdemeanor. It reads: A Simple assault occurs when: 1. Attempt to commit a violent injury to another, or, ***wait for it
2. Commit an act that places another in apprehension of violent injury. IMHO Ed crossed that threshold long ago.
As they say; Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. Spreading unfounded rumors of a father and daughter pertaining to incest is SUEABLE. Especially when you spread that kind of sick filth on national television with millions of witnesses. Dick NEVER crossed that line.
I have just signed in and have read all of these comments and I have to agree that Jackie did ask us to be nice and or pleasant to one and other. This is a game on TV and as I can see it we all have opinions which we are entitled to. Lets respect one and other.
I agree with you Lesa. Sharon was being mean to me and telling that me that my pithy remarks were attacking others which is just an opinion she has a right to. I disagreed with her. That's my opinion of her opinion. I'm not taking it personally anymore even though she addressed me personally.
Also, everyone says they admire Dick for being honest and saying what he feels/thinks and so I'm not sure why some people don't think I ought to be able to have my own pithy opinions just because they don't mirror theirs.
At 8/11/2007 5:38 PM, Anonymous said... As they say; Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. Spreading unfounded rumors of a father and daughter pertaining to incest is SUEABLE. Especially when you spread that kind of sick filth on national television with millions of witnesses. Dick NEVER crossed that line.
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Did he actually say that they were going to have sex or that he wondered if they would have sex? I mean, they're both despicable remarks but if you're just wondering out loud I don't see how you can be sued for that. Can you be sued for an opinion or thought? Because if you can we all might have problems.
I just feel everyone is getting a little out of hand here!! I do not care for Dick however, those who do that is great!! I also don't care for what Eric is saying, but those who do it ok.. I believe a christian does not always walk the walk as we should but I also don't believe that we should put them down. I do not belive that Amber should make the statement that she made!!! Now do I think that any of you should critize me?? NO! Everything here is just our Opinions!! Thats all!! Now lets respect Jackie who has made this place for us and BE NICE!!
Anonymous said: 2. Commit an act that places another in apprehension of violent injury. IMHO Ed crossed that threshold long ago.
8/11/2007 5:37 PM
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Well last night when Amber was working out with Zach she told him that she's sick to her stomach from all of Dick's yelling at her. I actually felt sorry for her for a quick minute.
On another note: she (Amber) said to Dustin like three times, "You're falling in love with me." Let's hope that is delusional thinking on her part.
Wow. You guys are really making me feel bad. I don't call my comments out of hand at all but if that's what you all feel, then I will refrain from commenting here in the future.
Susieq I agree with you Ed crossed it a long time and Eric's mouth has hurt him and embarrased me!! I just wonder how these people will live in the real world when this show is over, and I mean all of the hg....
Sue: Thank you SO much for that hearty laugh. LOL in the truest sense of the phrase!! I can't say that I totally agree with the transference theory but I thoroghly enjoyed your presentation of it!!
You guys this year each HG's were informed-- Showtime a cable network that's not subject to FCC restrictions means` that profanity and nudity will be broadcast.I'm to tired to explain it, however I'm certain all HG's signed contracts which would have differed from any other previous seasons, ( who know's warnings probably higher for sexual explicit comments )-- Esp; if unlike previous years where live intranet audience received clouds @@@) Jackie` do you recall last year how we kept getting clouds quite often, IMO A Reality show is just that; " REALITY ", BB OIMO is perhaps one of only 2 reality shows which is almost literally impossible to provide scripted dialogue, of course if your unaware how reality live " shows are being edited, hence` avoiding various copy-right materials for instance;( HG's singing songs ) it certainly could appear as though suggestive interacting has occurred via production staff by allowing various audio leaks, even so, again being that it's a live broadcast editing has to be excessive, what you all have viewed on U-TUBE Is generally limited editing, I've known individual participants on other reality show's who've asked production staff for their opinion however Staff basically ended conversation by stating something to the effect of; " Decision you provide, Ultimately is of your own free will, no additional incentives earnings have been offered, you understand this correct? " They ( participant ) generally is voiced having stated loudly yes! Though interacting is very rare, I'm talking about non censored` RATED reality shows; Bottom line partcipant not having been promised a deal of some sort should be fully aware what all was stated, simply not abiding by their agreed signed contracts ( you are not allowed to discuss D/R sessions ) ends up fruitless, every year reality shows have come to expect the unexpected, therefore provide detailed contracts. This year I'm betting more so than any other. BTW it took over 5 write ups until BB UK finally asked a HG to leave, her behavior was not only for racial comments, she had previous incidents.
susieq, your references to the Dick camp over and over again show what you feel about commenters who disagree with your opinions. No one is calling you out as the Eric camp. It's very simple to reply to others comments by referring to their name or anon and the time they posted. And you tend to repeat the same old, same old things constantly. It can get boring. Calling someone a "sore sport" is a personal attack. But, like you said You're a hypocrite and you don't even try. It's your sarcasm towards the commenters that is irritating. Go back and read your own posts for the last week or so.
Susieq, personally I appreciate you putting in the quote before you reply. It makes it easier to understand...especially with so many postings on the board.
Susieq said... "Well last night when Amber was working out with Zach she told him that she's sick to her stomach from all of Dick's yelling at her. I actually felt sorry for her for a quick minute."
I'm fairly certain that Amber is more sick to her stomach about the fact that Dick hit the nail on the head with her. If Dick's words to her weren't true she'd complain and move on & it wouldn't even bother her. The fact that Amber was nude on the show, openly talks of her drug use, abortions & slams Jewish people, she has to know that her mothering skills being called into question have hit it very close to what she thinks of herself. Also, what kind of mother allows their 8yr old daughter to watch "anything" on the internet, and even watch live feeds of BB? Cussing is a given each season. Her daughter should be watching the CBS show where most of it is censored.
Suzieq, I may not agree with your opinions or you with mine, but I enjoy reading yours and others and then responding with my own. I love how diverse the group & opionions are here. It is what makes this blog so special... Behind the great job that Jackie does of course! :)
If everyone on this blog were forced into a BB house I guess we would have two camps. Deanna and the other Dick fans would be running around yelling threats and insults and the rest of us would be locked in the HOH room trying to signal the producers to get us THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!
Tom S'....remember when, was is Bunky and Chicken George got into it in the sequester house?? I wonder if it will be a free-for-all there this year when ED gets there and all his targets start showing up! I am sure they have just as much control there,but it got wild and wooly when Howie was there waiting for James,but it quickly settled down. Now if Dani would still be in the house for the finals,ED could seriously harm any chance she might have of winning if he continues his rants on people there. I have heard they may show more of the SH this season and,if so,it may more interesting than the BB house!You raised some interesting points in your post.
susieq, just so know what I'm talking about as far as the sa rcasm to other commenters. Re-read all your posts just from 8/10/07. Two exmaples; Hmmmmmm, seems that some have totally misread Jackie's challenge. Either that or they need reading comprehension lessons. 9:09pm, or Oh, dear Sandy, chill out. 9:13pm. Then a very hypocritical reply to all at 9:16pm. Re-read 12:13pm, 12:25pm,2:33pm, 2:36pm,4:57pm, the 10:48pm comment is VERY telling. Sarcasm about the hg's is something everyone here does, it's what we're here for. But the majority do not take jabs at each other. Just FYI. Be nicer!
What baffles me is how different posters give different "weights" to the various HG's and their actions.
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the vilest of behavior, some people seem to give Eric a 6 and Dick an 11. Others seem to give Dick a 3 and Eric a 14.
Some seem to feel that no matter what Dick does or says it is: 1)entertaing and 2) anyone who he targets deserves it cuz they themselves used a bad word (Jameka) or they employ deception as a strategy (Dustin).
So if the use of the word bitch or speaking an untruth deserves a response of verbal assault then what the hell does Dick deserve? His language stoops far lower into the gutter than "bitch". And he constantly tells untruths while he creates material to assault the HG's with.
My point is that Dick defenders constantly revile HG's for certain behaviors. Yet when their buddy Dick displays the same behavior, and does it more extremely, they applaud him.
So according to this logic Jameka is a crummy Christian and human being cuz she used the word "bitch", but Dick is a fierce truth telling warrior for using the word "c**t, and threatening to murder people via rape.
Wow, on a scale of 1-10 of double standards I would give that one about a 45.
The feeds have been off for some time now. It can't be the POV comp unless it's an endurance thing. I wonder if maybe something happened? Any chance they kicked Dick out?
Anon 7:33 said.... My point is that Dick defenders constantly revile HG's for certain behaviors. Yet when their buddy Dick displays the same behavior, and does it more extremely, they applaud him.
Actually, I defend Dick because he does not offend me & enjoy the way he plays the "game", because it IS A GAME!!! I only bring up what the other HG's do in a way to show all that Dick as well as everyone in the house acts the same way. Dick does it out loud & open, while the others do it secretly. One is not better than the other, one is not worse than the other. IT IS A GAME & this is how BB is played. Insults & backstabbing is just a part of it. For people who find offense in it, they shouldn't play the game & they shouldn't watch it. I just don't see be offended & writing CBS to complain.
As for the ANON who wrote that "me" & the other Dick fans would be running around yelling insults... Stop hiding behind "anon". play nice or go home. Insulting someone isn't very nice & it makes you look bad.
Well I've decided to start up my own journal where my opinions can be voiced without certain people having a hissy fit. Just follow my name link and you'll find my blog if you want to read. Buh bye!
Google is one of the great places to find out what verbal, mental and physical abuse states.
I am with Jackie, let's kept this blog about the HG and stop the personal attacks on bloggers. Each person should be able to blog and not attack how others view their favorite player. We will never all agree, that is what makes it so great.
Let's all try to lighten up and get back to the purpose of this blog.
i have a question did't they throw someone out a few years ago for thowing thing? I think it was the x factor. One of the x's threw something. How is dick getting away with what he is doing love you jackie i read you first thing in the morning and last at night I am a lucker but had to add my 2 cents on this
mamawolf - Yes, they threw someone out during that season. Dave, I think it was. Actually, some of Dick's threatening behavior and throwing things has been as bad as that situation. But I think the HG this time aren't as frightened.
Anon 9:39 --re: "if it was someone abusing kaysar the way they are allowing dick to abuse jameka abuot his muslim faith, it would have been stopped immediately."
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AP is actually ruining the game. It makes Eric do things that are not strategic to the game or himself. No wonder Eric looks like such as weasal. The spotlight also brings out the worst in him.
Patty Q
Send Danielle home!
i am perplexed as to why big brother allows dick to continue to rant on jameka about her christianity. here is the thing....i would be willing to place a large wager that if it was someone abusing kaysar the way they are allowing dick to abuse jameka abuot his muslim faith, it would have been stopped immediately. lets be fair.
Couple of things...I think that Eric should be given credit for at least attempting to do the AP requests even if they're not in his best interest (which they haven't been from day one). I think that he wishes he didn't have this burden because he knows he's smarter than everyone in the household and it would have been easier to manipulate them had he not been put in the AP position. I'm not saying he's God's gift to the earth, but I think he does deserve credit for trying.
Next, I was watching Showtime last night and I think it finally became clear that all those people who have been claiming that Dick is just honest are completely wrong about him. I've read here many times how Dick just says what other people are thinking like this should absolve him from taking responsibility for his censorless self. Last night he was having a conversation with Dani and Zack and Zack told him that Jameka is running the moves behind Jessica and Dick goes, "Oh good, now I'll really lay into about the hypocrite Christianity stuff." So this proves that he goes out of his way to antagonize other people (especially women which is really disconcerting to me). It's not honesty---it's blatnat MEANNESS and ABUSIVENESS. No wonder he's not married and I'm wondering how he got anyone to sleep with him twice to produce two children, but that's another story. And now he's taken to throwing garments and such on the roof and whatnot. I even heard him tell Dani last night that he was going to toss the croquet balls on the roof after they were done playing so no one else could play. How ridiculous is that?
One funny line out of his mouth last night was him calling Dustin a dildo with ears. LMAO.
I don't give Eric any credit whatsoever. He's a weasel because HE chose to be a weasel. He went into the game with an advantage over everyone else AND he got paid for it! He's a scumbag in my opinion and if he gets to the final two, all the other HGs have a right to be furious as well with CBS and calling them out for all the diary room sessions where they begged contestants to keep him in the game, lawsuits be damned.
Anon 9:39 and susieq, I could not agree with you more. I was just looking at joker's and the things he is doing to Dustin are horrendous. I won't even repeat the things he is saying to him. They are obviously geared towards Dustin's sexuality and I find it disgusting. He has gone after Dustin for being gay, Jameka for being Christian and Amber for being an addict. I am also in recovery and the things he is saying to her are awful. He is asking if her daughter ever saw her high, if she ever found her stash. I have 13 years clean, but I can clearly remember what it was like in the early stages of sobriety. Amber is not my favorite of the group, but I am feeling for her. Personally I think Dick has crossed way too many boundaries and should be thrown out of the house. I can't believe CBS has let it get this far.
ditto eja...I'm shocked CBS is letting Dick rant and rave at the HGs as much as it seems he has been this a.m. (I peeked at Joker's too, sorry Jackie, I was hoping to see who's playing POV.) He's acting like a flipping lunatic and harrassing them to no end. Scary. I think I'd be in tears...I don't know how Amber is holding it together. ~SharonS
Someone asked some time in the last few days, what could be done to change the game. I have an idea. I think every voting time, a random hg should lose a turn to vote. There could be a Big Wheel to spin and the hg name that comes up on the dial doesn't get to cast a vote. I also think that if America gets a vote, the hg should know about it. I know that would tell them who is hated or who is a favorite, but it would also keep the house vote off center. Thank you Jackie, Sue
This game is becoming less and less about reality and more of a script pushed by the producers. The DR is telling info to the hgs and suggestions on how to vote. When the hgs talk to other hgs about it they turn the feeds off. There are youtubes verifing this. That really destroys the game not to mention it just increases the idea that others can be in on this extemely fake DR experience. I predict unless the producers clean up their act; this could be the last year for this show or at least taken out of the reality category. The producers have their choice of the winner and they will be directing the hgs in that direction.
I'm with you guys, I'm appalled at what is on Joker's from 9 AM to 11 AM. Dick is verbally assaulting Amber and Dustin. None of it has anything to do with "truth" or "saying what everyone else is thinking". Two terms which Dick fans need to stop using to try to justify their fondness or admiration of this abusive misogynist.
If he was yelling at his wife, girlfriend or next door neighbor like this he would be brought up on abuse and assault charges. You don't have to touch someone to assault them.
I found this in an online Law Dictionary: Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact.
If Dick was banging on pots and pans and screaming in your face that he was going to "f**k till you bled to death" how would it make you feel?
CBS should get Dick out of the house and then find out if any of the HG's want to press charges. The idea that it is OK to commit crimes against another because it's "just a game" is absurd and offensive. This level of abuse is unprecented in the BB house and Dick should suffer the consequences of his actions and be forcibly removed, not allowed to be on the jury, not allowed to be any longer in any way connected to the show.
Eric's stupid incest remarks pale in comparison to Dick's behavior. At what point is enough enough CBS?
Again, for all of you all fed up with Dick and his mouth...
Why is it OK for Eric to make remarks about incest in regards to Daniele and Dick-- no one around here thinks that is inappropriate.
I'm sorry you all Jameka is a hypocrite. As another blog says: "I think Jameka may truly aspire to (leading a righteous life) but her actions in the house show how far she is from achieving it. She says the worst thing you can do is reject God. I think God may be more concerned with how we treat each other than showing him respect... Then Jameka goes on about how no matter what you do "you can be forgiven." Which is how Jameka uses her religion. She does what she wants and then prays for forgiveness."
Actions speak louder than words kids, and she doesn't say much except "ummmhmm"
And FYI: Verbal attacks are encouraged in the rule book
PlaidCarrie
Anon@ 2:24 You said:
"Eric's stupid incest remarks pale in comparison to Dick's behavior."
I'm sure all who have experienced sexual abuse by a family member appreciate your comment.
SusieQ... I couldn't disagree with you more. As for Dick antagonizing Jameka? Yes, but that has nothing to do with how we discuss how he is forward with his thoughts & words & the other 'nerds' are sneaky with theirs. Also, IMO, Jameka follows D&D around all day (they even discussed it last night) in an attempt to either stop their game talk or to antagonize. So if Jameka was bothered by it, why on earth would she go out of her way to encourage it & seek Dick out. So how is antagonizing someone not being honest?? He is honestly telling her that she is a hypocrit(I agree, she is)each & every time she comes around him. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
As for the throwing of items, this is a game & many times on many seasons, I have seen this silly kind of behavior. Being locked in a house for as long as they are with people they detest, strange & silly behavior is bound to insue. I'm sure in real life, they don't steal peoples clothes and hide them. lol!!! This is a game & IMO, it all goes with the territory. I've often thought of applying for this show, but if I was in this house, I don't know if I could have shown as much restraint as they all do. I'm a non-violent person who leads a peaceful life, but this bunch makes me want to "bitch-slap" each one of them.
eja... But it is okay for Amber to bash the jews? It is okay for Dustin, Amber & Eric to say that Dick & Daniele will probably have sex in sequester? For Jameka to call a minister a bitch? For Eric to threaten to use Ambers abortion secret against her? If your going to call out anyones particualr behavior, you have to look at the big picture here and realize that "most" in this house have crossed a line a time or two. Dick knows he is going home & is throwing out all the ammo. If Jameka didn't want her religion being attacked, she should have kept it private like Kail (Kail was smart to know that it would have put a target on her back) If Amber was so sensitive about her drug past (& I think her issues are much deeper than that) then she shouldn't have broadcasted her entire life & body for all to see & read about.
They have all attacked Dick's mistakes in his past & his relationship with his daughter, but I don't feel the need to call CBS & complain about it. They are ALL using whatever ammo they can to rip eachother apart... Once again, Dick is just more vocal about his.
Deanna, I am not condoning any of the behaviours that you have listed. I have been disgusted at the amount of ignorance in this house from the start. I am talking about screaming in someone's face that you are going to f*** them until they bleed. What Dick is doing is verbally assaulting and intimidating these people. The others are idiots, yes, but come on. If Dick was outside of the house and he did to me any of the things that happened this morning, I would have a restraining order on him and file charges so fast...I don't see why this behaviour is being allowed in BB land. For that matter, how anyone could justify it.
Anon 2:24... I looked up assault as well in an Online dictionary.
"With intent to cause serious physical injury to another person, he causes serious physical injury to any person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument."
If you think that by verbally ripping someone apart, or talking of it makes it assault, then it proves my theory that people in this world are too "sue happy". I don't think that Dick truly desires to hurt anyone or I think he is the type who would just do it. If the HG's truly feared for their lives, they would show that type of behavior by avoiding him at all costs, telling the producers or just leaving the show.
Calling it assault is just ridiculous IMO....
Eja... He also said to Jameka "Lick my Balls", but I don't think she is fearing a midnight attack where she will be forced to, or she wouldn't be following him around all day prevoking him. Bottom line, Dick says things that he knows will rattle the people & disgust them (proof by your post), but I have never felt his true intent was to ever cause physical harm. If he ever crosses that line, THEN I will say it has gone too far! Until then, it is his game plan & I fear more of the people who secretly talk of hating Jews & incest.
if you go to Nolo.com, which is considered an authority on general legal matters, you can find defintions of assault and sexual harassment. I think Dick has come very close, if not already done so, to crossing the line with respect to some of his comments. If Eric were to repeat his horrid comments to their faces in a threatening way, he'd be guilty also. I don't condone Eric's stupid "jokes", but, legally, they don't seem up to par with what Dick has been doing the last few days. However, laws are enforced more when the victims yell "stop," and so far they seem to be trying to ignore his nastiness.
I'd hate to live with any of them, but I'd be terrified living with Dick...in control of who he's verbally attacking or not.
~SharonS
Anonymous said...
I don't give Eric any credit whatsoever. He's a weasel because HE chose to be a weasel. He went into the game with an advantage over everyone else AND he got paid for it! He's a scumbag in my opinion and if he gets to the final two, all the other HGs have a right to be furious as well with CBS and calling them out for all the diary room sessions where they begged contestants to keep him in the game, lawsuits be damned.
8/11/2007 12:52 PM
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Wow. Sore sport much? It was just a remark. No need to get all in a huff about it.
PlaidChick said...
Again, for all of you all fed up with Dick and his mouth...
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No one has said that Eric's comments were acceptable. I don't think I've seen ONE person say anything favorable about Eric's incest comment at all. Eric is verbally attacking anyone, though. Dick is doing the verbal attacking. Both he and Danielle make fun of Dustin's gayness nonstop. Why aren't the gays up in arms over that? Nothing is off limits to Dick as far as attacking other people goes.
On the Jameka front...unless Jameka is God, she's going to be a human being and make mistakes like all the rest of the world. Of course she's a hypocrite. I think we can all agree with you on that one and no one is denying it. On the other hand, who isn't a hypocrite at some point in their lives? I'm a hypocrite a lot and it's not even like I try.
I watched Showtime2 last night. Dick was so funny. He was just raggin on Jameka about God, and all I heard from her was heavy breathing while she was practicing croquet. Dick does have good points, but to make them he crosses the line. Somebody has got to tell him to knock it off. It's a game. I guess they're scared. He would give me a headache if I was there. Just too much.
Deanna said...
Eja... He also said to Jameka "Lick my Balls", but I don't think she is fearing a midnight attack where she will be forced to, or she wouldn't be following him around all day prevoking him. Bottom line, Dick says things that he knows will rattle
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He wishes. He's a pig
I think the problem we are having in this discussion is that the Dick camp excuses Dick's behavior time and again while those who seem to be sort of siding with Eric will at least acknowledge that he's said some pretty bad things.
Those in the Dick camp apparently think yelling "LICK MY BALLS" is acceptable behavior and all in good fun.
I see two different views on Dick being presented here today. I don't like to brag, but I am really observant that way. : )
Here is what the love/hate feelings Dick creates come from, in my opinion. Transference. Those of you who know a Dick (cool guy who knows music and how to dress the part) and like him, relate those feeling to this Dick, and forgive him his transgressions and want to stick up for him. While those of you who knew a Dick who was not likeable (was abusive, dangerous, antisocial and just down right mean) you put those qualities on this Dick. So the feelings you carry for your Dick may keep you from seeing clearly who this Dick is. I happen to know two Dicks...one good and one not. Frankly, neither one in reality has much in common with this Dick, whose actions are becoming very (wait for it...) Pre-Dick-Able. Okay, I'm done now. Sue
Sue............you are just too funny!! And that is what needs to be done in this forum,everybody needs to lighten up and take a few steps back and quit this bashing of anybody who doesn't agree with their point of view! Every time this show comes on,it elicits this kind of reactions,so I guess that's part of this "social experiment" called BB too.And....it's just a game,people!
And,Susieq,I thought Jackie has asked us ALL,more than once to stop the personal attacks on fellow posters. I see no need for you to repeat other's posts and then go after them or add your pithy comments. Talk about the hgs all you want,but I have a right to state MY opinion just as much as you do.
How much longer until POV is won?
-Bethany-
Sharon said: And,Susieq,I thought Jackie has asked us ALL,more than once to stop the personal attacks on fellow posters. I see no need for you to repeat other's posts and then go after them or add your pithy comments. Talk about the hgs all you want,but I have a right to state MY opinion just as much as you do.
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I post what someone has said so you all know who I am referring to. I'm not picking on anyone, I'm trying to make my post coherent. I am commenting regarding their comments just as they are commenting about mine even if they don't copy my comments at the top.
If you are implying that my pithy comments are attacking anyone, then perhaps you need to look that word up in the dictionary. They are my OPINIONS, just like yours. Certainly I'm not assualting anyone since we've all discussed THAT word to death and decided Dick's behavior isn't assualt so I can hardly believe anyone would say my comments are ATTACKING anyone. Please.
PS. You are not my mother. If Jackie has a problem with my comments, she is free to delete them.
I should have logged on earlier. Thd discussions are better than the show itself.
In an earlier post, someone looked up a definition of assault. The definition that was given was for aggrevated assault.
Another degree of assault is simple assault, which is a misdemeanor. It reads:
A Simple assault occurs when:
1. Attempt to commit a violent injury to another, or,
***wait for it
2. Commit an act that places another in apprehension of violent injury.
IMHO Ed crossed that threshold long ago.
As they say; Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. Spreading unfounded rumors of a father and daughter pertaining to incest is SUEABLE. Especially when you spread that kind of sick filth on national television with millions of witnesses. Dick NEVER crossed that line.
I have just signed in and have read all of these comments and I have to agree that Jackie did ask us to be nice and or pleasant to one and other. This is a game on TV and as I can see it we all have opinions which we are entitled to. Lets respect one and other.
I agree with you Lesa. Sharon was being mean to me and telling that me that my pithy remarks were attacking others which is just an opinion she has a right to. I disagreed with her. That's my opinion of her opinion. I'm not taking it personally anymore even though she addressed me personally.
Also, everyone says they admire Dick for being honest and saying what he feels/thinks and so I'm not sure why some people don't think I ought to be able to have my own pithy opinions just because they don't mirror theirs.
At 8/11/2007 5:38 PM, Anonymous said...
As they say; Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. Spreading unfounded rumors of a father and daughter pertaining to incest is SUEABLE. Especially when you spread that kind of sick filth on national television with millions of witnesses. Dick NEVER crossed that line.
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Did he actually say that they were going to have sex or that he wondered if they would have sex? I mean, they're both despicable remarks but if you're just wondering out loud I don't see how you can be sued for that. Can you be sued for an opinion or thought? Because if you can we all might have problems.
I just feel everyone is getting a little out of hand here!! I do not care for Dick however, those who do that is great!! I also don't care for what Eric is saying, but those who do it ok.. I believe a christian does not always walk the walk as we should but I also don't believe that we should put them down. I do not belive that Amber should make the statement that she made!!! Now do I think that any of you should critize me?? NO! Everything here is just our Opinions!! Thats all!!
Now lets respect Jackie who has made this place for us and BE NICE!!
Anonymous said:
2. Commit an act that places another in apprehension of violent injury.
IMHO Ed crossed that threshold long ago.
8/11/2007 5:37 PM
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Well last night when Amber was working out with Zach she told him that she's sick to her stomach from all of Dick's yelling at her. I actually felt sorry for her for a quick minute.
On another note: she (Amber) said to Dustin like three times, "You're falling in love with me." Let's hope that is delusional thinking on her part.
Wow. You guys are really making me feel bad. I don't call my comments out of hand at all but if that's what you all feel, then I will refrain from commenting here in the future.
No susieq I don't think your comments are bad. I just think some people are getting overboard!! Stay here!
Susieq I agree with you Ed crossed it a long time and Eric's mouth has hurt him and embarrased me!!
I just wonder how these people will live in the real world when this show is over, and I mean all of the hg....
Sue: Thank you SO much for that hearty laugh. LOL in the truest sense of the phrase!! I can't say that I totally agree with the transference theory but I thoroghly enjoyed your presentation of it!!
I do love reading this blog!
Thanks, Jackie!!
You guys this year each HG's were informed-- Showtime a cable network that's not subject to FCC restrictions means` that profanity and nudity will be broadcast.I'm to tired to explain it, however I'm certain all HG's signed contracts which would have differed from any other previous seasons, ( who know's warnings probably higher for sexual explicit comments )-- Esp; if unlike previous years where live intranet audience received clouds @@@) Jackie` do you recall last year how we kept getting clouds quite often, IMO A Reality show is just that;
" REALITY ", BB OIMO is perhaps one of only 2 reality shows which is almost literally impossible to provide scripted dialogue, of course if your unaware how reality live " shows are being edited, hence` avoiding various copy-right materials for instance;( HG's singing songs ) it certainly could appear as though suggestive interacting has occurred via production staff by allowing various audio leaks, even so, again being that it's a live broadcast editing has to be excessive, what you all have viewed on U-TUBE Is generally limited editing, I've known individual participants on other reality show's who've asked production staff for their opinion however Staff basically ended conversation by stating something to the effect of; " Decision you provide, Ultimately is of your own free will, no additional incentives earnings have been offered, you understand this correct? " They ( participant )
generally is voiced having stated loudly yes! Though interacting is very rare, I'm talking about non censored` RATED reality shows; Bottom line partcipant not having been promised a deal of some sort should be fully aware what all was stated, simply not abiding by their agreed signed contracts ( you are not allowed to discuss D/R sessions ) ends up fruitless, every year reality shows have come to expect the unexpected, therefore provide detailed contracts. This year I'm betting more so than any other. BTW it took over 5 write ups until BB UK finally asked a HG to leave, her behavior was not only for racial comments, she had previous incidents.
Tom` S
susieq, your references to the Dick camp over and over again show what you feel about commenters who disagree with your opinions. No one is calling you out as the Eric camp. It's very simple to reply to others comments by referring to their name or anon and the time they posted. And you tend to repeat the same old, same old things constantly. It can get boring. Calling someone a "sore sport" is a personal attack. But, like you said You're a hypocrite and you don't even try. It's your sarcasm towards the commenters that is irritating. Go back and read your own posts for the last week or so.
Susieq, personally I appreciate you putting in the quote before you reply. It makes it easier to understand...especially with so many postings on the board.
Susieq said... "Well last night when Amber was working out with Zach she told him that she's sick to her stomach from all of Dick's yelling at her. I actually felt sorry for her for a quick minute."
I'm fairly certain that Amber is more sick to her stomach about the fact that Dick hit the nail on the head with her. If Dick's words to her weren't true she'd complain and move on & it wouldn't even bother her. The fact that Amber was nude on the show, openly talks of her drug use, abortions & slams Jewish people, she has to know that her mothering skills being called into question have hit it very close to what she thinks of herself. Also, what kind of mother allows their 8yr old daughter to watch "anything" on the internet, and even watch live feeds of BB? Cussing is a given each season. Her daughter should be watching the CBS show where most of it is censored.
Suzieq, I may not agree with your opinions or you with mine, but I enjoy reading yours and others and then responding with my own. I love how diverse the group & opionions are here. It is what makes this blog so special... Behind the great job that Jackie does of course! :)
Please don't leave us... :)
If everyone on this blog were forced into a BB house I guess we would have two camps. Deanna and the other Dick fans would be running around yelling threats and insults and the rest of us would be locked in the HOH room trying to signal the producers to get us THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!
Tom S'....remember when, was is Bunky and Chicken George got into it in the sequester house?? I wonder if it will be a free-for-all there this year when ED gets there and all his targets start showing up! I am sure they have just as much control there,but it got wild and wooly when Howie was there waiting for James,but it quickly settled down. Now if Dani would still be in the house for the finals,ED could seriously harm any chance she might have of winning if he continues his rants on people there. I have heard they may show more of the SH this season and,if so,it may more interesting than the BB house!You raised some interesting points in your post.
susieq, just so know what I'm talking about as far as the sa rcasm to other commenters. Re-read all your posts just from 8/10/07. Two exmaples; Hmmmmmm, seems that some have totally misread Jackie's challenge. Either that or they need reading comprehension lessons. 9:09pm, or Oh, dear Sandy, chill out. 9:13pm. Then a very hypocritical reply to all at 9:16pm. Re-read 12:13pm, 12:25pm,2:33pm, 2:36pm,4:57pm, the 10:48pm comment is VERY telling. Sarcasm about the hg's is something everyone here does, it's what we're here for. But the majority do not take jabs at each other. Just FYI. Be nicer!
Anon 7:07, No, your half of the camp would do as the LNC, call names, make up things and threaten, all behind their backs.
Deanna...I have to say I LOVE your picture of Amber crying...cracks me up every time!
What baffles me is how different posters give different "weights" to the various HG's and their actions.
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the vilest of behavior, some people seem to give Eric a 6 and Dick an 11. Others seem to give Dick a 3 and Eric a 14.
Some seem to feel that no matter what Dick does or says it is: 1)entertaing and 2) anyone who he targets deserves it cuz they themselves used a bad word (Jameka) or they employ deception as a strategy (Dustin).
So if the use of the word bitch or speaking an untruth deserves a response of verbal assault then what the hell does Dick deserve? His language stoops far lower into the gutter than "bitch". And he constantly tells untruths while he creates material to assault the HG's with.
My point is that Dick defenders constantly revile HG's for certain behaviors. Yet when their buddy Dick displays the same behavior, and does it more extremely, they applaud him.
So according to this logic Jameka is a crummy Christian and human being cuz she used the word "bitch", but Dick is a fierce truth telling warrior for using the word "c**t, and threatening to murder people via rape.
Wow, on a scale of 1-10 of double standards I would give that one about a 45.
Sigh! Some people never learn. It's like talking to a brick wall.
The feeds have been off for some time now. It can't be the POV comp unless it's an endurance thing. I wonder if maybe something happened? Any chance they kicked Dick out?
Hope not.
Anon 7:33 said.... My point is that Dick defenders constantly revile HG's for certain behaviors. Yet when their buddy Dick displays the same behavior, and does it more extremely, they applaud him.
Actually, I defend Dick because he does not offend me & enjoy the way he plays the "game", because it IS A GAME!!! I only bring up what the other HG's do in a way to show all that Dick as well as everyone in the house acts the same way. Dick does it out loud & open, while the others do it secretly. One is not better than the other, one is not worse than the other. IT IS A GAME & this is how BB is played. Insults & backstabbing is just a part of it. For people who find offense in it, they shouldn't play the game & they shouldn't watch it. I just don't see be offended & writing CBS to complain.
As for the ANON who wrote that "me" & the other Dick fans would be running around yelling insults... Stop hiding behind "anon". play nice or go home. Insulting someone isn't very nice & it makes you look bad.
Well I've decided to start up my own journal where my opinions can be voiced without certain people having a hissy fit. Just follow my name link and you'll find my blog if you want to read. Buh bye!
Google is one of the great places to find out what verbal, mental and physical abuse states.
I am with Jackie, let's kept this blog about the HG and stop the personal attacks on bloggers. Each person should be able to blog and not attack how others view their favorite player. We will never all agree, that is what makes it so great.
Let's all try to lighten up and get back to the purpose of this blog.
Many thanks!
Great idea! We should ALL do that!
Just remember 9:39, Jackie was talking about you, too.
LMAO Life imitates art...and visa versa. We are what we watch.
C'mon, guys. Do I have to turn this blog around and bring you home?
i have a question did't they throw someone out a few years ago for thowing thing? I think it was the x factor. One of the x's threw something. How is dick getting away with what he is doing
love you jackie i read you first thing in the morning and last at night
I am a lucker but had to add my 2 cents on this
mamawolf in oregon
mamawolf - Yes, they threw someone out during that season. Dave, I think it was. Actually, some of Dick's threatening behavior and throwing things has been as bad as that situation. But I think the HG this time aren't as frightened.
Anon 9:39 --re:
"if it was someone abusing kaysar the way they are allowing dick to abuse jameka abuot his muslim faith, it would have been stopped immediately."
GREAT point!
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