Monday, March 31, 2008

The Bachelor: London Calling Blog Discussion Post

Due to popular request, here it is! A blog discussion post for the new season of The Bachelor: London Calling. Grab a keyboard and a comfy seat and discuss the show with your friends. It's not a show I watch, but I know many of you do, so this post is for you!

The official show site is here.

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boo said...

Thank you Jackie! You are the best!! Look forward to seeing you all here tonight---or later!
boo

joy n said...

Thanks, Jackie!

There are two that I hope will be leaving soon (so far). Marshana: She's very pushy and that lap dance last week was a little much for someone who's trying to make a good impression.

The other is Shayna. Talk about a drama queen. Too bad her acting skills seem to come from her father (Lorenzo) instead of her grandfather (Fernando Lamas).

joy n said...

Kelly seems very sweet. What did Matt mean "almost too comfortable"?

boo said...

joy n, I agree! Let's hope there are at least a few "ladies" in the mix.
boo

Tessa said...

Did you see the upcoming clip of Shayna? She was like you don't know who my parents are...I can't believe this? I say she is history tonight. At least I hope so.

boo said...

I guess there was "electricity" after all. I'm glad Holly got a rose-----and I hope Shana doesn't!

Tessa said...

ok the rugby game is just a bit nauseating.

Tessa said...

I just don't think I like this whole Brit as the Bachelor thing.

Sydney said...

Dump the Lamas Drama-ess!!!! TROUBLE!!!

And I jsut don't see the attraction in the short haired brunette. Robin is it? She got the rose.

Sydney said...

Lotsa slurrin' goin' on this season too.

Anonymous said...

JOY N ....puhleese....ok, who did he dump?
Im dying out here...cant wait up to watch so tell me!!!!

boo said...

Sydney, I noticed the slurring too. Wouldn't these -people have a better idea if the romance was going to work if they were sober? Kelly can go home as far as I am concerned.

Was Amanda the one who got the first impression rose? Shes seems nice, but she may not be enough of a fighter.

joy n said...

I'm really surprised that he gave the 2nd rose to Robin. She usually walks around with a sourpuss look on her face. Very unattractive when she does.

I'm not sure about this Brit, either. He's spoken with several double-entendres already. A bit classless for a Brit, I thought.

Can't wait to see how this date with Shayne goes. Doesn't it seem like she's "on" all the time?

Tessa said...

Shayne reminds me of an Anna Nicole wannabe. He really thinks this 22 year old has some substance....puhlease!

Tessa said...

Who was the other bachelor who seemed to kiss all the girls on his season?

joy n said...

Terry, it's not over yet. He has given two roses out so far. Earlier it was said that nine roses will be given, meaning three will go. That would also mean, I guess, that Shayne will not receive one during her 1-on-1 date, but possibly get one later. I hope not.

So far, Holly and Robin are safe.

Tessa said...

Shayne makes me want to hurl!!!

joy n said...

Yeah, right, Shayne, you "forgot" the rose was sitting on the table next to you.

boo said...

Once again, a man who is not thinking with the upper brain! I really thought he was smarter than this.

This is my first time ever bloggin live like this. Thank you all for making it such a pleasure!-------And thank you, Jackie!
boo

joy n said...

They said nine roses tonight, and he just gave the third one to Vamp Shayne. So, of the nine women left, only six will stay.

Is Shayne as obviously phony-acting as I think she is or is it just me?

Anonymous said...

is this show for real???i mean really--i am screaming at my tv. it is downright painful to watch as a working woman...

Tessa said...

No Shayne is obviously the phoniest one in the house.

Anonymous said...

Ya know,I get so tired of those Brits ending up over here on our tv shows. In all of the USA they couldn't find a single guy without a commitment phobia? When they said Sarah Fergeson might be on DWTS,I was livid. First she did Weight Watchers and then that!Then we got ugly Mills instead! Stay home and romance your English babes!I don't see anything so special about this guy,he's kind of sleazy, maybe he deserves Shayna.

Anonymous said...

ok lets get to the catfight...

Anonymous said...

what was with the woman with the "meeps"

Anonymous said...

I really hope that Marshana goes home tonight, I agree that she is very pushy and rather harsh. Shayne is here for another week unfortunately. She is such a bimbo. I have to say that not too many of these girls impress me. I don't like Ashley either, she seems too immature to seriously looking for a husband. I really wish these bachelors would actually use their brains when giving out the roses.

joy n said...

If you mean by "meeps", hiccups, that would be Amanda.

joy n said...

Erin is out. Amy is out. Kristine is out.

Sydney said...

What am I missing that I don't think he's so horrible. Time will tell. Yes he is kissing a lot fo girls. I think it was Bachelor Bob who kissed everyone? I would want to kiss the guys I was interested in, but I'm not sure I would do it with ALL until the numbers dwindled a bit more, lol. But he has been able to have fun and has been responsive, spoken well to each girl.... I don't know how any of them do it... the girls or the bachelors. But I sure like reading what all of you have to say about it season after season!

It IS fun live blogging, isn't it BOO?

Sydney said...

Joy I am amazed by your ability to know peole's names so fast in all these shows!!!

Anonymous said...

thanks Joy!
who was the cute blonde he took to the red carpet experience???

joy n said...

Sydney, it's just that tonight alone, when getting the massage with Kelly, she said she liked
"hard" massages, He said "you like hard what?" (with a laugh)

With Holly in the hot tub, he was staring at her boobs as he talked to her.

With Shayna, as she her legs were all over him, he was rubbing her upper thigh as they talked. Well, maybe Shayna doesn't count. She seemed to encourage him.

I just thought The English were supposed to be "gentlemen".

joy n said...

Terry, that was Holly.

joy n said...

Way back at 9:46pm, I meant Holly seemed very sweet, not Kelly.

joy n said...

Off subject, but TMZ says that The Mole will start in late May and the new host will be Jon Kelley. He is the former anchor for syndicated celeb news show EXTRA and an anchor for FOX Sports Network. JFYI.

Anonymous said...

Holly, well she is cute and seems to impress him ....
gosh why do we even care?

Anonymous said...

i'm not a fan of this show but i saw last season's last few episodes including the finale which sitll cracks me up, I fell sorry for those women and that bachelor was a JERK

Maybe Natalie from BB should go on the show, she's certainly dimwitted enough to fall for the bachelor!

Caroline said...

At this point Holly seems like the most down to earth, normal girl and therefore I will be rooting for her. Although, maybe she deserves better than this guy and I should root for her to get the boot before he breaks her heart. I absolutely can't stand Marshana or Ashlee. The highlight of the episode was Chelsea knocking the crap our of Ashlee during rugby. And I can't understand why any guy would find it attractive if a girl (Shayne) curled up in their lap like a toddler would. She acts more like a 12 yr old rather than a 22 yr old. I was so disappointed when he kept her around.

Caroline said...

Joy...thanks for the update on The Mole. I'm very excited about it returning and hopefully a few people here will watch and we can run our theories by each other. I was hoping when Jeff Probst unexpectedly showed up on Dancing with the Stars that they would announce he'd be hosting the new season of the The Mole. Oh well, at least I can still watch him on Survivor ;-)

joy n said...

Wouldn't that have been great!

dla said...

Well, I fell asleep and missed the show, but just watched it online...

I will take an unpopular stance and admit I do like this guy! Is her perfect? Absolutely not, but none of them have been. I like the British twist, as the premise had been a bit tired, so it does add a certain spark of newness that was much needed.

Robin drives me crazy.

I think he nailed it when he called Shayne "the LA sex kitten", and, while he may find it hot and intriquing for a moment, I don't think he would go there for the long haul. She is playing the "acting family" angle to the max, and that will only go so far.

He has become the kissing bandit much like Bob, and that typically comes back to bite them later as it encourages emotions that are then shattered, but the girls are definitely moving in for the kill. Seems to be their idea at least half the time, so I guess everyone is somewhat responsible for all the sucking face!

Surprised by a few that he kept and a couple that he sent packing, but this is my guilty pleasure! A bit like a big long train wreck, but I admit I keep watching! lol

Anonymous said...

Oh Joy, you do such a great job! thanks so much for answering all the dumb questions, I feel like alittle kid pulling at your shirt, "what now Joy, huh what now?"
so please forgive the bugging!!
Back to Shayne...ok, I recall when her Mom and Dad divorced. The Mom was a tiny blonde..seems like she was a playmate, not sure now, at anyrate, he left her without a car, it was nasty....I cant believe its been that long ago. But her Mom was naive and clueless type, so I can see where she gets that....But she has been priviledged and spoiled , I think her grandma is Esther Williams,Granpa Fernando Llamas. Her dad Lorenzo is a soap oera actor, and some series about a motorcyle. I guess what I am trying to say is she has been raised in this world of attention and focus on the outward person...she probably signed up for this to get media time and get into the biz so so speak, and cant believe she has any competition...JMO...

meb said...

terry in ca... I think you're right... Fernando Lamas and Esther Williams would be her grandparents. I have to say, that when she was on her one-on-one with Matt, she appeared to be acting through the whole thing. She's pretty, but at the moment, I don't care for her much.

I don't like Robin either. Little snit! I guess Holly is OK.

I hope I don't end up not liking any of them, you know, like BB.

Anonymous said...

I promised myself that I would not watch the show this season...and yet here I am watching.The fact that I can come to this blog and talk out the show makes it more enjoyable. Shayne IMO has been acting the whole time and needs to go very soon. Marshana get on my every last nerve and also needs to go. Robin seems to be in it to win, not necessarily because she likes the guy. Ashlee is just too immature to be taken seriously. And as for the rest of the girls...they are utterly forgettable. And still I watch!

meb said...

Oh yes... I forgot Marshana. I can't handle her for a minute. She "puts on airs" as my mother would say. I just don't believe she's really interested in Matt... she's just interested in being on TV.

Anonymous said...

Whats up with Robin's tongue.. the way she talks and sticks out her tongue makes me want to barf!

I really think hes going to pick her even though shes so annoying, bad haircut BLECKKKKKK

Sydney said...

TMZ reports that the Andy the Military Bachelor is now seeing Marla Maples, the ex-Mrs. Trump. There's a very Heidi Montag- Spencer whats his name like publicity stunt on the beach with her in his arms. It's enough make even a gossip rag subscriber like me retch.

meb said...

Oh barf Sydney... you've got to be kidding. She's much older than he is isn't she. But thanks for the update anyway. Smile

Delee said...

Yes Sydney and Meb, I saw that also on TMZ. What is he thinking? Is he seeing $$$? She is older than he is, maybe he is laying ground work for the daughter!!! HA HA

I do not like Robin either, she seems artifical and conniving. Guess you can add Marshana to that also. He may be keeping Shayna for an easy throw-away! ?

Terry is a Texan! said...

ok, sydney I hate that about Marla Maples (who I like actually) and our sailor must be publicity...truly...she is older, and she didnt get any money from the divorce to speak of..she signed the prenup and got a measly 2 mil...but her daughter,tiffany, is supported by the Donald.
What is he thinking????

Anonymous said...

hi all-bachelor just started here in boston and the blond bimbo is already starting in!

Terry is a Texan! said...

PUHLEEESE give updates I cant stay up tonight!

Anonymous said...

i can't believe the CAT fights

Sydney said...

Wow, he had such a lame kiss with the girl who designed the sari -- don't know her name -- I am shocked SHE got the rose.

And surprisingly, Shayne has come off like ahuman being in the convo with the really aggressive brunette with the short cut... Glad I know the names aren't you?

Sydney said...

The singing girl (I think she looks like Jewel's little sis) didn't have much to say when he was asking her serious stuff - she is pretty, but very immature (when has that mattered to men?)... I just hope he saw that. She giggled, and was fairly inarticulate , in what they showed us of it at least.

And the other woman, kelly -- she crosses her arms then drunkenly flashes him. No matter what he said about it disapprovingly, his EYES sure were full when she did that... and there was a little smile playing on his lips!

Sydney said...

Aaah shoot, while I took a moment to type that I missed the rose ceremony. Just came in on the jewel sister hypervenitlating and singing again...

Who do we think he's going to end up with of the remianing 6? We know Shayne is going to be in the running -- though I give it a few months and they will be broken up.

The brunette with the long hair that he did teh 50's date with -- I didn't see any connection while they were in the booth but she seems nice. Maybe she would be a good choice? Want to hear what you all think

Terry is a Texan! said...

dang Syd, but thanks anyway
so we dont know who left?
It wasnt Shayne? sheesh

joy n said...

Terry, Marshana got the rose on the double date and Holly went home. I was shocked! I don't like Marshana and from the previews, it looks like she shows a lot of attitude next week. Matt thinks she "real", Men are stupid sometimes.

At the rose ceremony, Ashlee, the singer, and Kelly, the flasher, did not get roses. Why on earth

would Kelly have thought showing her boobs would be a good thing to do. Very trashy, I thought.

Ashlee was giggling like a schoolgirl on her date. Seemed a bit immature to me. I also didn't think she could sing very well.

Matt wants Noell to come out of her shell. Amanda (the 50's date) seemed to come out of hers a bit more, but like, Sydney, I don't think Matt is feeling a connection there. Too bad, she is one of my faves. So was Holly, mainly because they both seemed genuine to me.

Shayne behaved better tonight, but I think her ego wants to win this, and I think she's used to getting what she wants.

I'm still not liking Robin.

Maybe things will work out with Chelsia. Have to wait and see.

Sydney said...

Sorry Terry -- Maybe it's perimenopause or maybe I'm willing ot watch but not as invested in the names. BUt thanks to Joy you have a better view of what I wrote.

The six who are left -- Robin is the short haired aggressive brunette

The sari girl is Marshana and yes, they haveshown a few clips past and in previews of her getting a little Ghetto for our fair London boy methinks.

The brunette who I think got the first impression rose is the one from the 50's date.. Amanda (is that right Joy?)

Shayne

Noell (non descript)
Chelsia (also nondescript)

These are the final 6 I think. I thought Holly was a real contender. I was shocked he let her go.

Sydney said...

Well, Marlas bod sure looked amazing in the pic.

I saw her up close once when I was in the Trump hotel in Manhattan. She was at teh front desk talking with them like she lived there... and I bet she does have a free place to stay indefinitely whenever she is in Manhattan in addition to that 2 million.

Poor Tiffany -- she is not included when Trump shows his wohle family on the Apprentice. Just the two oldest and the youngest. Unless that's Tiffany' schoice, I see a COMPLEX coming.

joy n said...

Yes, Sydney, that was Amanda who got the rose on the 50's date, I hope she opens up a bit more. She seems like the "real deal".

Jackie has a new BB post up.

Caroline said...

Do you guys think he sent Holly home because he realized she was falling in love with him and he didn't feel the same about her? He looked kinda sad about not giving her the rose. I'm gonna hope it was a display of him being a decent guy and looking out for her feelings....although I liked Holly and they were cute together. It's the only reason I can see him picking Marshana over Holly...cause Marshana is gross.

I think the real contenders in this game are Robin & Shayne...maybe Chelsea & Amanda to a lesser extent. I think he kept Marshana and Noelle for the easy throw aways for next week...giving him a final 4 that he's actually interested in. If that's the case I'm rooting for Chelsea or Amanda, both of the other two are very unlikeable.

Terry is a Texan! said...

guess cause i am waaaay post menopausal but Robin freaks me out...and Marshana..no way she is his type...please say it isnt so.
To let her stay and let Holly go..well the boy has no taste.
Amanda she has a place in my vote if I had one...the rest...who invited these tacky people? showing her boobs...glad shes gone...

joy n said...

Caroline, I hope you're right about Marshana being a throwaway. I can't stand her either.

I also hope that Shayna goes fairly soon. She's already admitted to Matt that she's high maintenance. She's also a pouty, spoiled little brat. I think she's just looking for her 15 minutes. I never thought her dad was "all that" as an actor.

Esther Williams was Lorenzo's stepmother, I believe.

meb said...

I don't know how, but my TV didn't tape Bachelor...and I missed it! I was just reading up on the week before and realized you guys were talking about a new one. Well, thanks for being so detailed, I almost feel like I saw the episode.

I've said before, can't stand Marshana and I think Shayne is just interested in camera time.

joy n said...

Well, Chelsia is on the first 1-on-1 date with Matt. A romantic sleigh ride. They're all in Sun Valley, Idaho. Another one-on-one later. Two will go tonight and next week is the four hometown, meet the parents thing.

Marshana hasn't started her drama yet.

joy n said...

Chelsia confessed she's not the touchy-feely kind and he says to us that he is looking for an affectionate mate. Not a good sign.

joy n said...

Guess she is up for French kissing, though.

joy n said...

Robin, Amanda, Shayne and Marshana on a group skiing date. Marshana already complaining that the shoes hurt.

joy n said...

Matt says he and Shayne have a great "fun" connection.

Robin interrupting Shayne and Matt's time. This is one very pushy lady.

Now they're all in spa. Amanda and Matt kiss.

joy n said...

Where is everyone? Terry, hope this will help if you want some info before it's on in PDT.

joy n said...

Matt and Noelle are ice skating.

He seems to like her a lot. They kissed.

joy n said...

Marshana is starting. Girls are calling her out on her negative attitude. She says she is a great person and a loving person and many other sweet, flowery things. Yeah, right!

joy n said...

Robin says she is totally confident that she will get a rose. I hope not. Mostly, I hope Marshana goes home tonight.

Terry is a Texan! said...

joy n THANK YOU! Im so glad you are commenting on tonights show...I cant stay up, work tomorrow morning....you are a doll to do this and I do so appreciate it.
I want marshana and robin gone...who else?

joy n said...

Marshana telling Matt her version of "fight" with Robin and Chelsia.

Now Chelsia is talking to Matt. He's a hand holder, she's not, but says she's up for it.

Robin's turn. She wants Matt to kiss her and "she always gets what she wants."

Shayne - It's real for her. They kiss. heh!

joy n said...

The Rose Ceremony -

1st rose - Shayne

2nd rose - Noelle

3rd rose - Chelsia

4th rose - Amanda

Bye-bye - Marshana and Robin YES!!!

Anonymous said...

Yeh Marshana and Robin are gone.
I am so happy!!!

Anonymous said...

OMG that mother rubbing Matt's chest...in the previews.

joy n said...

Marshana took it better than I expected.

Robin is pissed. Says it's his loss. His problem. F**k him. Classy broad. Now she's crying.

Previews show Lorenzo Lamas telling Matt that Shayne's feelings are something he shouldn't toy with. Guess only Lorenzo can do that with women.

Terry is a Texan! said...

WHOOOHOOO!!! How did we call it so good???
Love it, didnt care for either of them....they both acted "entitled"

Terry is a Texan! said...

Joy n.....you have to be kidding that slut-man said that to him? He is the biggest fake!
I still dont see them together...I think when it gets down to it, she'll be gone...
didnt we like Amanda? isnt she the meeps one?
THANK YOU JOY!!!!

joy n said...

Maybe he'll get rid of Shayne next week?

joy n said...

Yes, I like Amanda and Noelle seemed very sweet tonight, too.

And, YES, I'm so glad he sent those two packing. They both seemed to be there only for the competition. Just had to win! Better luck next time, ladies, and I use that term loosely.

joy n said...

Oops, Amanda IS the "meeps" one.

Missed ya tonight, Delee. That was Amanda's mom doing the chest rubbing! Big time CREEPY!

Anonymous said...

hi my name is kristen and just wondering who got sent home tonight my faves are shayne , robin sometimes robins ok but idont know. some1 else but forgot her name.

Caroline said...

I am ecstatic that Robin and Marshana went home. My roommate and I were chanting it through the whole rose ceremony. But Robin & Chelsea were totally correct in telling Marshana she radiated negativity. Although if that was the biggest fight in Bachelor history, it was kinda disappointing. I was expecting much more with the build up they gave it.

At this point I'd be happy with everyone winning except Shayne. I think she believes she's ready to settle down, but that she's probably just talking herself into it. I really like Noelle and think she's the most down to earth, normal girl and I thought their date was very sweet.

joy n said...

I like Noelle too, but she seems a bit on the reserved side. Maybe we'll see her open up more at home with her family.

Chelsia surprised me. She has a great sense of humor and Matt seemed to like that.

Amanda still a fave. But from the previews, with her Mom flirting with Matt, that might send him running.

Shayne, I agree, may be telling herself she wants Matt in her life, but I honestly cannot see a long-lasting relationship between the two of them. Shayne has a lot of growing up to do.

Anonymous said...

Joyn, I hope you get a kick out of this. My daughter is Amanda (not that one) and somehow this just tickled my funny bone!

" That was Amanda's mom doing the chest rubbing! Big time CREEPY!"

I wish...

stupidcupid said...

I'm almost afraid to post my comment, lol. Lotta Shayne haters in here. I think we agree on two things so far, Robin and Marshana just had to go, and should have been gone weeks ago. Both were a bit gaggy.

My feeling is that Matt and Shayne have a true connection, something I'm not feeling when Matt is with the other ladies.

I really felt that "connection" Matt talks about when they were going down the mountain and Shayne "ate it." When she pulled out the make-up and cracked him up. I was rofl and then to look up and see Robin coming down the hill I was so upset, I really wanted to see more of Matt with Shayne. Luckily I tape every episode because I am interrupted multiple times during the show and was able to watch that exchange over and over, laughing so hard at them, it was hilarious, almost as funny as Robin's face when she didn't get the rose, ooops, she must not have wanted him, lol.

The feeling I had was pretty much dashed when the previews came on and Renegade man said what he said. I'm now feeling that Noelle has the best shot with him especially after seeing Amanda's mother doing what she did, omg, come on now that was a bit over the top for me. Poor Amanda!!!! Now my feelings about Chelsea and Matt are just ridiculous, she seems sweet but he's just too classy for her.

Anddddddddddd Matt ya dummy, what were you thinking when you let Holly go??? Wasn't she adorable????

Before I go, lol, like I'm the all knowing about this show, lol. Don'tcha just hate he kept Robin and let Stacey go? ROFL

cya CUPID

stupidcupid said...

I just want to add that Shayne's Dad, also starred on the old series "Falcon Crest," probably dating myself here but who cares still a romantic at heart, lol. He then starred on "The Bold and the Beautiful," and then "Renegade." He's probably done more than that, those are just what I remember.

I believe I heard Shayne say early on that she has been on her own since age 17, whether that totally means "on her own" who knows. I really like herrrrrrrrrr. Because I'm getting the feeling no one else does I'm feeling a bit silly for liking her and Matt together, what did I miss. I saw the Vegas one where she flipped, I think she was just tired and just wanted him to know how she felt about him. I remember when they first started coming out of the limo's, she was one of the more striking ladies. I liked her before I knew she was a "Lamas."

When she and Holly were by themselves waiting on dates with Matt and Holly pulled the tanning machine out I cracked up, Shayne was hilarious. When they were packing up getting ready for Sun Valley and she literally slid down the stairs carrying all her stuff, I again was rofl. The segment showing Holly and Chelsea checking out suitcase after suitcase of shoes that belonged to Shayne, it was sooooooo funny.

Okay, enough about Shayne and Matt. Someone please explain to me why in the @#$% Kelley exposed herself to Matt. Albeit she was wasted but did she mean to shoot herself in the foot or what?

Guess now you know why I chose my name, just a bit stupidatlove.

hahahaha cya Cupid

stupidcupid said...

I hope you all don't hate me before all this is over, I've just missed out on a lot of postings and trying to make up for it. lol

Amanda was 1st person out of limo
Chelsea was 5th
Shayne was 15th
Noelle was 25th, I just thought that was interesting.

You may be asking why I did that, I was just curious as to how each lady did during eadh episode. I went back and watched all of them again and as much as some of you dislike Shayne, she is actually the front runner for Matt's committment. I would like to think that she is sincere about her feelings for him and I also think that they make a very cute couple.

Okay, bye for tonight, have more than made up for my absence.

cya Cupid

Caroline said...

Hey Cupid..interesting comments. Personally I don't hate Shayne..I wasn't very impressed with her in the first episode but I've enjoyed her more since then. The only reason I'm not rooting for her is because I think she's too immature to really be ready for the kind of commitment Matt is looking for. I think Shayne thinks she's ready but that she's still a little too young and all about Shayne to be ready for marriage.

As for some of the scenes you mentioned with Shayne, I definitely got a big kick out of her falling down the stairs and pulling out the make-up on the ski slope. And for the record, Holly was the one I was originally rooting for, I just think Matt wasn't as into her as she was into him, and maybe he cut her to spare hurting her feelings even more down the road. Not sure who I want to win, I like all the girls left, but I agree it looks like the family visits will give Noelle a good advantage. Should be a good ep next week.

joy n said...

Delee, that did make me laugh!!

stupidcupid said...

Hi all here I am again. Caroline, I think Holly was moving way to slow in this fast pace game of love. She was holding back when she should have blasted him with both barrels on the first date with him. She was one of my picks from the get go. I really miss her and think it was tragic to lose out to Margaggyshana. That would have hurt me more than losing Matt at that point. Anywhooooooooo, now that she's gone, do you feel he really has a connection with any of the girls at this stage in the show. Seems like last season, you could almost tell who the final two were going to be, and then Brad toyed not only with those ladies emotions but with all the fans of the show. My point is, it's really hard to say that he is really stuck on one person at this point, makes it kinda hard trying to figure out what he's gonna do.

joy n said...

Cupid, I also remember Fernando on Falcon Crest. From what I've read over the years, though, he can be a real jerk in his personal life. He doesn't quite have the class his father possessed.

I don't dislike Shayne, really. I think she's a beautiful girl with a tendency to be unintentionally funny. But she is a bit of a drama princess, She has admitted to being high-maintenance. Matt has said he has a "fun connection" with her. I just can't see the two of them married. I also think she has some growing-up left to do, and eventually, she will find her "prince". I really don't see Matt as that guy.

Anonymous said...

I have to say that I do not like Shayne although I don't 'hate' her. She is just too immature to be taken seriously at this point. She is 22 years old and a very young 22 at that. It bothers me that she is always snugglying up to Matt like a young child, not like a young woman. But I think that she does this because she thinks that it is cute...it's not. I like Amanda, although I think that her mother has ruined it for her with the touchy-feely thing. I am not impressed with Chelsea. She just doesn't seem into Matt. I myself do not like being demonstrative, but if I am really into a man, it doesn't take work. My favorite that is left is Noelle. I think she is very sincere in her feelings for Matt and I think that they would be a good match. She just needs to let him see that she really cares and wants to pursue the relationship.

Anonymous said...

OMG!!! I cannot wait for tomorrow night!!!!

stupidcupid, lol, cannot seem to remember my password

Terry is a Texan! said...

I just like Noelle....Shayne needs to grow up some more, shes cute and sweet and I think he is captivated by that but she is not in to moving to London and having his children

joy n said...

Daddy Lorenzo looking his age. That meeting went better than I thought it would. He likes Matt. Says his daughter has an open heart. Now over to Shane's mom's house.

Sydney said...

Dad looks like a spring ckicken next to MOM. GAK.

Also, do you think the thing with the mother who presses her boobs into our Bachelor and tries to kiss him is staged????

joy n said...

I don't know Sydney. Looking forward to seeing that.

joy n said...

Man, Shane's mom looks botoxed to the nth degree! She may need those boobs redone also.

Matt, think carefully.

Sydney said...

Wow, I take it all back. Shame on me for judging a book by it's cover.Her mother was wonderful, adn it seemed like Matt really didn't want to leave. I just wanted to tell the mom, you are actually MORE attractive without the clown lips... where is Albglinka????

And Lorenzo was good to Matt... not sure how real the father/daughter hugfest was, with the cameras there it looked a little like a scene from a soap.

I'm still worried that Shayne is WAAAAy to immature for a real relationship, but she is quirky and seems sharp, and is not a catty biotch in the house, which takes a lot. What do you guys think?

joy n said...

Almost hoping that the touchy-feely thing with Amanda's mom is staged. Would she risk her marriage and hurt her daughter that way on national television?

joy n said...

I still believe Shayne is too young and immature to marry anyone yet. She has a sweetness about her, but she's still looking for FUN in life.

joy n said...

Chelsea, I'm liking more and more. What a great relationship she has with her Dad.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here, forgot password.

Why is it every beautiful woman in Hollywood or otherwise has to mess their lips up by injecting them with chemicals??????

It looks so fake and gaggy.

I was really impressed with the overall visit with Shayne's parents though.

Chelsea's visit was impressive as well.

Amanda's visit is gonna top em all I'm afraid.

Sydney said...

I know Joy -- I wonder what I would have turned out like had I had anything close to that. It really shapes so much for a young woman... her relationship with her dad.

I got a hit of alcoholism from the clips of Amanda's mother. We'll see, maybe the eidtors took it totally out of context and it's nothing like what it looks like. Wouldn't be the first time, lol.

Anonymous said...

Ohhh Noelle is quite the little tiger now isn't she, grrrrrrow!!!

joy n said...

Noelle still seems a bit nervous to me. Don't know why but I just don't sense a real connection between these two. She has a hard time letting anyone in. Says she's terrified. We'll see.

joy n said...

Ahah! Amanda hired actors to "play" her parents!

Anonymous said...

OMG!!! Amanda is really pushing the envelope isn't she. This may very well do her in or it may very well seal the deal huh?

Thank God they are actors!!

joy n said...

This is going to be hysterical or a complete turnoff!

Sydney said...

WOw, Noelle's family and parents were solid too. I have to say -- CAN I say???-- that this bachelor might actually be genuine? We've been led astray so many times before.

So, ther eit is, she said she hired actors to be her parents. One question...

WHY???

joy n said...

Amanda, get out there and spill the beans quickly. Good, she just did! He fell hook, line and sinker. He has a good sense of humor.

Anonymous said...

I didn't enjoy that at all, I don't think Matt did either no matter how much he says he was impressed with Matt, that was just mean.

Sydney said...

Well, he's a better man than I, not hard because I'm not a man...

But he was so sincere, he really had much more patience and steadiness than I ever would have through all that. Good thing it worked in her favor.

What I really reallyy don't get is how when we get to the final 4 it seems like the bachelor/bachelorette really doesn't favor 2 of the 4. How is that possible?

I know the show wants to make it look that way, but they all say really serious things to the girls after these dates. That's not editing.

joy n said...

I know. It was a weird thing to do.

As for having a great relationship with your father, I would have no idea about that either. My father and I never had a relationship at all. I've often wondered the same thing as you, Sydney.

joy n said...

Shayne - 1st rose

Amanda - 2nd rose

Chelsia - 3rd rose

I had a feeling it would be Noelle leaving. Better now than later.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here.

I honestly believe if I wasn't 50 yo, weigh 250# ahd had hairy armpits along with a wart on my nose, I could love this man if he would give me half a chance.

I could slurp him up in a heartbeat. Isn't he just the most adorable man alive. I hate to tell you this, if you hadn't already guessed, I'm in love.

Go Shayneeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
I hate what Amanda did to him.
Chelsea, that laugh has to go.

Sydney said...

Well, as I was typing that thing about my father I wondered if I should delete it. Now I'm glad I said something. When you see all these fabulous parents, you get to thinking your story is the exception...

Sydney said...

LOL stupidcupid...

We shall see how it all turns out. Is he genuine after all? Sounds like he definitely proposes to someone... let's wait a few months to see if it lasts. I SURE HOPE SO! We need another true success story here!!

I will be glad to see another Bschelorette but I'm not sure Deanna (is that her name?) will succeed. Something about her gives me that feeling. I always hope to be proven wrong though.

joy n said...

I have to admit, I very much admire this bachelor. I wasn't sure I would at the beginning of the season. He's not going overboard with the wooing and cooing as the last few guys have done. He seems to choose words carefully with the women and their parents. Good English breeding I would guess.

As much as he likes Shayne, I think he's sensible enough to realize that she's nowhere near the stage in her life where she could settle down and start a family.

It's going to come down to Amanda and Chelsea, I think.

joy n said...

I just can't bring myself to watch the Bachelorette this season. I didn't like Deanna last time around and have to say, I don't care all that much if she finds her prince.

joy n said...

Sydney - 11:04 And that wondering never goes away. Not an everyday thing but always there...under the surface.

joy n said...

Stupidcupid, you've really got it bad! LOL!!!

Sydney said...

I think he's going to pick Shayne... or that there's a really good chance he will. I just don't see him moving to LA for her movie career... and she won't do well in England trying to get one.

Terry is a Texan! said...

Oh my, so he gave Noelle the boot huh? She seemed so real to me, but then I havent watched tonight's episode.
Syd,Joy, others....
If we are all still speaking of fathers..I'll chime in with mine. All my girlfriends and cousins had awesome "Daddy"'s mine was quiet, not into us....we tip toed around. Apparently later in life I was told he had a couple of affairs...my Mom hung out till 25 years and then she caught him having a full blown affair. It was the time when you had to agree to a divorce..he humiliated her in court, and she had to buy him out of the house. The gal he eventually married had tons of money and two young daughters, so they had a great Daddy. One that didnt worry about money, or have any history with them. they got ponies..the whole deal
I never knew how to relate to men in general, and the nice ones scared me silly.
I was so angry that they got the best of him. when he passed away I felt really cheated....the grieving widow and two step daughters in the front pew...and Mom and I sat towards the back.... and it did a real number on me for many years....I was blessed to have a man who was my uncles best friend, he met me when I was 4 days old. He went on to marry and have children, a great family man. When my own daughter was in college he worked there, and he and his wife bonded with her,being away from home. They surrounded me with a Daddy love I never had known. Im glad I have been able to experience it....sometimes I still long for what wasnt, but Im glad I do have what I do now. Every time he calls me "Presh" I feel like I am 6 years old inside.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here.

I just watched the show again and I really hated what Amanda did to Matt. He was horrified, I felt so bad for him. I wish, that when he offered Amanda the rose and she reached for it, he would have pulled it back and said ohhh sorry just kidding, Noelle? Will you accept this rose??? LOL that would have been a gasser.

dla said...

Stupidcupid, that would have been hysterical!!!

I also hated the Amanda hoax, so I think she is out of the running.

Noelle was a sweetheart, but too little too late, and she has that wall thing. I can relate a bit to that and it can definitely screw things up.

So, will our favorite man take the "sensible" route and choose Chelsea, or take a walk on the wild side with Shayne???

Right now I am leaning toward Shayne, due to his ever-present worry that he and Chelsea do not have that romantic connection, but we shall see after they hit Barbados next week!

This is fun!

Anonymous said...

I was really sorry to see Noelle go, I really thought that she was the best match for Matt. Shanye is too immature, I just don't see anything with Chelsea and Amanda's prank was terrible.
I also had Dad issues and that is why I am still single at 46. I am very afraid of men and tend to put up a wall especially if I like him. In my mid twenties, my parents divorced (Dad having affair) and my Mom remarried. He husband is a sweetheart so I finally did get a positive male role model, but I fear it was too late to help.

Terry is a Texan! said...

Anon 7 am....Im sorry you too had these issues. To think all the major years growing up I thought I was the only one...Im thankful all of you have shared..maybe we can lessen each others burden this way. Im 63 and I still have twinges about it all.

joy n said...

I'm 61 and still dealing with it. My father was married to a woman in PA. My mother was one of several "other women" in his life. He never stayed in one place for long, not even in PA. He drifted from job to job and even "rode the rails" from town to town. He and my mother had 5 children together. I was the oldest. I only remember him drifting in and out of our lives. He'd come to our house about every two or three years, stay a couple of weeks, and then was gone again. My mother bought his cigs, his beer and fed him while he visited. We kids had absolutely no relationship in all those years. We were pests to be shooed away. I have no idea why my mother loved him so much, but she did. I cannot tell you of all the issues I have had. My hubby now, is my third husband, but we've been together 22 years and married 20 as of this July. With not much help from my parents, I finally figured out how to get it right. It's been a very long road.

meb said...

OMG... I just realized that I'd been so caught up in BB that I totally forgot to comment on Bachelor. I come in and I can truthfully say how touched I am by all your reflections of your younger years and more importantly, your father(s).

That same father issue is probably why Shayna is still so childish in her actions with Matt, but I believe it's put on. And I believe that Matt likes that part of her. He comes off to me as someone who wants to "take care" of his female counterpart.

I do like Shayna... wasn't sure I did in the beginning, but have grown to appreciate how she acted with all the other women in the house. She did a lot of controlling the anger with the other women, including when Marshana went nuts and Shayna physically pulled her away from the person she was arguing with and she was upfront in giving her opinion whether the others wanted to hear it or not.

I think she is more mature than she lets on and is purposely showing the little girl image for her benefit, since she is reading Matt perfectly. Of course MHO.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

Yesssssssss, When Matt said he now sees that he was completely wrong about Shayne, a lot of peeps were. I felt her maturity when she was keeping peace amongst a lot of the ladies in the house. I particularly loved it when she spoke so prophetically to Robin, "Okay then, if you are going to still the ladies away when they are having one on one time with Matt then yes, you can expect the ladies to talk about you when you walk away because you are not respecting them." Remember that???? That was very mature on her part, extremely honest in telling Robin that she is messing up big time and it hit home with Robin because she acknowledged she didn't know how to "respect" other women.

okay gotta go back to work now. hugs

Anonymous said...

stupidcupid here again, lmao,

still=steal, lmao

o well I'm stupid, member??

Terry is a Texan! said...

I read in Parade news mag that they are betting on a Matt-Shayne happy ending....what do you think?

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here.

I'm in favor of that but am afraid they are just toying with my emotions. lol I keep going back to the previews and he's on his knees looking up and it appears to be a short person, hopefully Shayne. But my ill feeling is that he chooses ditzy Chelsea. Shayne would make me very happy, Amanda would make me happy, Chelsea, man I just can't see him with her at all.

Terry is a Texan! said...

stupid cupid....love that name..when my couisn wa small and that song would come on he would sing at the top of his lungs "tupin-tupin stop pickin on me"
we loved it.
Do you think Shayne would live in London and not be an actress?
What is his business that maybe he can live here?
She hasnt gone to college or anything, maybe he will tire of her "high maintenance"
I think shes sweet, pretty and handled the other wierdos very well...just not thinking shes marrying/baby mode

joy n said...

I think that Matt and Shayne are cute together, but have to agree that she's not nearly ready to settle down to a married life with babies even if she thinks so at the moment. She's only 22 and this time of her life should be spent chasing her career hopes and dreams. I have a feeling the two of them are enjoying a crushy type romance right now, but I can't see it lasting for very long.

I really like Amanda, but am feeling less and less of a connection there. Hope that changes tonight.

Last week was the first time I'd paid any attention to Chelsea and I was pleasantly surprised to see her good sense of humor. I don't think I'd mind so much if something happened between her and Matt.

Of course, she could do something tonight that changes my opinion completely.

Admittedly, I first thought Shayne was a phony, spoiled little brat, but I guess she's grown on me. There is a definite sweetness about her. She still needs to mature a bit before settling down with anyone.

Terry is a Texan! said...

joy n
the only thing that bothers me about Chelsea is her comments about not liking PDA and hand holding, that really put him off..maybe its editing and thats resolved who knows?
I just dont think Shayne should tie herself down right now...she needs to fly a bit....

Julana said...

you can definitely see that the hand is not that of amanda's--i feel really bad for her.

Delee said...

Strange comment...but don't we all wish the BB females had Shayne's voice. Soft and plesant, not shrill and grating!!!

joy n said...

Terry, the preview's already sounding like Chelsea may still have that problem. Too bad.

joy n said...

I hate Shayne's hair.

Anonymous said...

stupidcupid here,

that scares me the "does chelsea ruin her chances at love?" omg he's gonna choose her.

I want him to choose SHAYNE

I love them together!!

yes she can act and yes he can work anywhere he's already said that in a previous date with Amanda i believe.

I love he and shayne together

joy n said...

I still say Shayne is a VERY young twenty-two. Her father first married at twenty-one and he still had a lot of growing to do. Some girls her age are mature. I just can't see it in her.

Delee said...

SC I agree. Loved when she said, "I am fighting for you", how sweet.

joy n said...

Maybe he will choose Shayne but he'll have his hands full. Doubt it could last.

Delee said...

Joyn, I agree the only one that worked out was Ryan and Trista. That is also the only correct one I picked at the end. I am never right guessing who, except that one!

He did not have that something in his eyes when he looked at Amanda, like he did with Shayne. It was deep and probbing, like he could eat her alive. Ha Ha. Awkward with Chelsea, oh no. Is he playing us. Now said the worse date.

joy n said...

I think maybe Chelsea just bought her ticket for home.

joy n said...

She's not making a lot of eye contact.

Terry is a Texan! said...

joy n
Girlfriend I am sitting on the edge of my chair here...I cant wait for you to tell me whats happening...I dont think I can stay up for the show, darn it.
My husband goes to bed at 6:30 pm on Mondays as he gets up at 2am to drive to work...if I stay up too late I wake him when I go to bed...then he has a hard time getting back to sleep.

Im so glad you guys who can see it East coast time let us poor CA people know whats up!!!
(((Joy N)))

joy n said...

She should have ditched the white underwear.

joy n said...

Matt is having his "overnight" dates tonight, Terry. He seems to really care for Shayne.

Less of a connection with Amanda.

I thought he had about written off Chelsea, but now their connection seems to be coming alive again.

I have a feeling that Amanda may be going home now.

Rose ceremony starting.

1st rose - Shayne

2nd rose - Chelsea

Amanda is going home.

joy n said...

Next week - London - meeting his family.

Amanda didn't take it well.

joy n said...

I feel bad for Amanda. There just wasn't a connection there.

Take it back. London in two weeks. Next week reunion show.

joy n said...

Surprisingly, the connection with Chelsea has gotten stronger, he seemed to want the connection badly. Who knows?

Terry is a Texan! said...

oh thank you! Im thinking next weeks show will be the Robin and Marshana or Markesa face off what was her name? Anyway, they seemed to be the only ones who really will be nasty...right?
Well I do think Shayne is adorable, but I cant see her settling down like he is ready for...I already forgot how old is he?

Delee said...

That was a shocker. I felt for Amanda.

Next week is the Q&A with all, then the next off to London to meet his parents.

That looked like Shayne's hand but I bet they film more than one.

Good night ladies!

Delee said...

He is 27 and Chelsea 25 and we all knpw how old Shayne is. LOL Amanda was 27 too.

joy n said...

Terry, he's 27.

joy n said...

Delee, I have kind of harped on Shayne's age. LOL Maybe she'll surprise me, but I'm still hoping for a Matt/Chelsea outcome. He seemed to genuinely want Chelsea to open her heart to him.

Of course, that could just be the editing again.

Terry is a Texan! said...

in the hands on the promo's they looked short and almost chubby....more Shayne like. I really hope she means this, and isnt just doing it for publicity. It would be nice to have another couple really make it!

dla said...

Hi ladies!

Well, I was not surprised when Amanda went home. It looked like a great date with her, but didn't feel the electricity like I did with Shayne and Chelsea (after she opened up)...

I also agree that it looks like Shayne's hand, as well as more her style of jewelry on her wrist, but they are probably toying with us.

Actually feel ok with both of them, so will be interesting to see his choice. And the girls playing "meet the parents" in London looks like good TV!!

Anonymous said...

I fell asleep during Matt and Chelsea's date last night and woke up for the rose ceremony, so you can imagine my surprise when he kept her. She must have really done an about face that night in order to still be in the running.
I think that of the two women, he has the best connection with Shayne. I am concerned however, that she is really not ready to settle down at this point in her life.

Anonymous said...

I feel that whoever he picks it will not work...remember he is from London and for either lady that is a tough separation. Yes, all said they would move either east or west, but in the end that is a huge decision.

Remember Andy stuck in Hawaii, of course, he had to stay there, per military, but kind of the same thing.

I think Shayne is more worldly travel-wise, but Chelsea is from a small town in Colorado. Durango is isolated, been there.

Can not wait to see the drama from Marshana next week!!!

WOW WV is back to normal.

Anonymous said...

Who cares if none of you like Chelsea. I do! GO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sydney said...
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Sydney said...

Shayne definitely grew on me.I saw her maturity with the girls in the house, which is rare on this show.

I look for whose hand each year and it indeed looks like Shayne's ... usually they aren't toying with us but I wonder if they realize just how detailed we viewers are and like dla said, ARE editing to that this time.

Seems Chelsea would move and settle more easily than Shayne. I think Shayne would initially be interested in moving but find it too hard to adjust and be away from her family and the ability to pursue her own identity at this age...meaning, I don't think she'd be happy to live there and be supported by him and give up her own growth at this age, though some other 22 year olds would be very happy to be supported by a guy and begin having kids.

I had a great 29 year old guy when I was 21 who wanted to get married and have babies but I could not settle down without seeing more of the world and learning how to support myself and something tells me Shayne will feel similarly... unless she gets into theater (not) and doing movies in London or Europe. They are so far from her wacky yet warm LA upbringing, I just don't think she'll be happy that far away unless mom dogs and sisters can visit often..

That said, I think he will ask her to marry him. If Chelsea's pantyless black nightie was icing on that cake, he may ask her and go for the more mature woman. ARRGH... I see arguments for both sides.

He's gonna ask Shayne and she will say yes and I hope for OUR sake (lol) they just stay together at least for the finale show...

Whomever he chooses, I think Matt has the humor, maturity and is articulate enough to keep the fires burning --thru for that tricky three month waiting window--and to put out fires as his fiancee watches him kiss other girls on TV.

Shayne may fall back on her former dramatics and NOT be able to keep it together for the 3 months of "sequester" that is always the undoing of this show's couples. I think Chelsea could stay steadier through it.

Why oh WHY don't the producers get a clue and find a way to change that so their success rate goes up???

I like this bachelor, and it's revived the badly hurting rep of this show and the men they have had on it in the last few years. Thank you Matt.

joy n said...

Very well said, Sydney.

I was a little iffy on this bachelor at first, but have grown to love him. Still think he's a little too touchy-feely with ALL the girls legs, BUT, he has shown himself to be a decent, gentlemanly proper Englishman with a great sense of humor. He very well may have revived this show and I thank him for that, too.

Plus he got rid of the hoochies, the psycho's and the weirdo's fairly early on this season. Finally, a man with taste.

Caroline said...

Matt is one of the few reasons I watched this whole season. Usually I watch the first ep and then don't tune back in until there are about 4 girls left. But he seemed genuine and decent and was making good choices with the girls. It kept me more interested in the whole process of the show. For the first time ever, I loved all the F4 girls. At that point I would have been content on him choosing any of the girls. They were all well-mannered, intelligent, ambitious girls and they all deserved to find their happiness, just like Matt. It truly has been a fun and enjoyable season, it'll be sad when it's over.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

My internet went dead about the time Matt was handing Chelsea the envelope. I was going nuts, slapping it out of his hand on the TV screen. I have a real problem with the two of them together. I hope Shayne handles it better than I do. lol Didn't want her date to get better. I was sad Amanda was eliminated, however, expected it to happen. Lost all feeling for her when she called Shayne's Matt a "douchebag." He didn't like that much either, he was hurt by that comment you could read it all over his face. Gooooo Shayne!!!

Hope I have my connection back soon. I'm doing this at work, lol. Hugs to all

meb said...

Seems like I'm always a day behind to post. I like Shayne but I agree she should probably follow her dreams before she settles down in a marriage.

You know the old saying, you want what you can't have, and that's probably why Matt is so taken with Chelsia. He can't read her and it really bothers him.

Whoever he chooses, I hope it lasts longer than the finale'.

Terry is a Texan! said...

did anyone else see Amanda on Ellen yesterday?
She said she was most shocked by herself saying "Like" so many times, ellen said "Yes 55 times we counted" I thought she was adorable, and although maybe not for him, she will do fine.
I like Matt, and I hope whoever he picks its REAL and they stay together.

Anonymous said...

Check this out. It's a clip from the reunion show. It doesn't spoil anything is kinda comical though. Matt looks hot without hair.

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheBachelor&Number=9007192&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=93&rc=&fpart=1

joy n said...

They'rrrrre baaaaaack! All 15 of them........"The Women Tell All". I love this part!

Anonymous said...

I want him to choose Shayne so bad, that I won't be able to watch the rest of this. It will be too painful for me if he chooses Chelsea. sighhhhhhhh

joy n said...

er, 25.

Terry is a Texan! said...

joy n
so do you think he will really choose Shayne? I just cant see them making it in the long run...but then maybe not Chelsia either?

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here

It's time for Matt to come out and I can't believe they didn't talk to Holly. IMO that was one of the more shocking events of the show. Maybe she talks when Matt comes out.

Kudos to Amanda (meep, meep, meep) she's extremely classy.

Marshana is still overbearing and took way too much time away from important things

Robin, she's just Robin.

Now I'm feeling strongly that he doesn't choose Shayne.

They didn't even talk to Holly, that's really odd.

Can't wait until next week. Who do you think he chooses? I'm kinda swaying toward Chelsea now. Hope it's otherwise but ya never know.

Sydney said...

Ok, after watching the bachelor reunion show, I think he's going to ask Chelsea.

When he came out and was talking on the couch, the host asked him a question and he answered by saying something like "when Chelsea... and Shayne..." He added Shayne's name with a barely perceptible struggle... but I got the impression that Chelsea is the name that has been on his lips for th e last few months, otherwise why refer to her first. Unless he's really sharp and like these editors that make it seem like the other person than it is...

Which leads to my second hunch. They edited scenes for next week making it look all good with Shayne and pretty rocky with Chelsea (except that thier kisses were the most passionate besides the one he let go last week). They tend to do that in all reality shows as we know...setting you up to think it's not the winner that it really is.

Thirdly. while they do indeed dhow him holding Shayne's had in the end in close up, he is not holding a ring or putting a ring on her finger.

What did you think????

Sydney said...

Sorry SC, posted before I read yours. What made you think that though?

I also was astonished that they didn't speak to Holly. Either they did but it didn't make the cut or...not, as she looked rather forlorn in the last shot, like she indeed didn't get any attention, even though she was in the final 4!

Terry is a Texan! said...

sydney Im thinking that she was edited out....she was pretty hot in her exit interview. Marshana, yipes, cant she keep her mouth shut?
amanda, ah the meeper....sweet gal.
chewing mynails here, wondering why it matters to me who he picks?
It just does
and also, I miss BB, as bad as it was I was addicted to jumping on the blog all day and night!

Anonymous said...

What makes me think he chose Chelsea?

In the previews of next week he's on his knee looking up and is on the right side of the screen. When he's with Shayne, he's on the left side of the screen. Not scientific but leads me to think it's Chelsea. I also thought it was too easy for him to say Chelsea's name first. If he did choose Chelsea, I'm hurting for Shayne, she truly does love him, I can see it in her face and eyes. I just hope Matt is happy, I really do think he's the best they've ever had on this show.

Now, I've not said anything about last seasons show but must speak now. I liked Brad, thought he did the right thing. Felt if he picked someone for the hell of it would have been far worse than not picking one of the ladies at all. I liked him far more than any of the ladies he had to choose from.

I'm already feeling sorry for DeAnna because now she's going to know exactly how hard it was for Brad to break her heart. I hope she has an easy time of it and love comes easy for her so she can get her fairytale ending. Good luck DeAnna.

joy n said...

I had to tape the how last night (company). I'm also surprised and disappointed that Holly wasn't given a chance to say something.

The more Marshana talked, the more I wanted her to shut up. She doesn't want to be disrespected, but she disrespects others. Hasn't she ever heard of the "golden rule"?

Amanda still showing a ton of class.

If Shayne doesn't get chosen, her heart will probably feel broken for a bit, but she'll get over it. Matt says he feels like a 16-year-old with her. While I'm sure that may be enjoyable for a time, and as he's still looking for that "good head on her shoulders", I'm thinking he may be realizing she might be too immature for him. Shane has a sweet personality but I still believe she has much growing up to do.

Chelsea has a hang-up or two, but I can see them getting past all that.

As we all know, there are no guarantees in reality TV, but whomever Matt chooses, I really hope they make it. Another "winner" is long past due.

joy n said...

I won't be watching the Bachelorette. I wasn't a fan of DeAnna's the first time around.

meb said...

Late posting...had to tape the show too.

I really thought they let Matt off easy compared to previous years. Hardly anyone had a question for him and then he was gone.

Marshana was a jerk. Sorry, but I agree, if you want respect, give it!

I thought they pointed out all the "like"(s) that Amanda did when she talked. I didn't see that...only her 'meeps'.

I still want him to pick Shayne, even tho she is young. I just ended up liking her the most of the two. I guess we'll know soon enough who he chose.

Anonymous said...

is anyone else pissed that tonight's show was supposed to be two hours long? they edited out chris saying that on the abc online show too! but instead dancing with the stars is on...this sucks.

Anonymous said...

I am still concerned with Shayne's youth, but I hope that Matt picks her tonight. Chelsea is just too weird about displays of affection. Now if Matt felt the same way, it might work, but he doesn't so I can not imagine a long term relationship between them. Besides...I really dislike Chelsea.Oh well, hopefully Matt made the right choice and we have another Trista and Ryan.

Terry is a Texan! said...

Anon 8:44.....I was weired out by Chelsea's not being affectionate, but then I thought it might all be editing...and taking that and blowing it out of proportion. At least I hope so, I think he has a better chance with her as she is more mature and has a career.
Did they already show his parents? I guess I missed that whole segment!

Anonymous said...

stupidcupid here

Chelsea certainly has MUM's vote.

All in all a very nice visit with the "in-laws" lol. dadgummit!!! lol

I had a vision of Robin chatting the Mum up using a fake British accent and cracked up, lol. Robin, you're dismissed!!

joy n said...

Chelsea got along very well with his parents. It may well have been editing. Matt and Chelsea were shown walking London's streets holding hands and laughing. She said in an earlier episode that she doesn't like holding hands with intertwined fingers. Apparently, hand-in-hand is fine. A good sign.

Anonymous said...

stupidcupid here

I'm afraid for Shayne now.

They are going to eat her alive because she's only 22. I'm dreading this for her.

Uhho couldn't shop, spilling the drink, she's 12, Simon is a bit torn, Mum was comfortable with her. Shayne is really doing a great job.

They didn't help Matt a bit, Mum and Dad chose Shayne so, Simon chose Chelsea. So who is Matt going to choose. They want us to believe that Matt will choose the one the parent's like. That isn't always true.

This is really getting to me.

joy n said...

Mum and Dad seem to show a preference for Shayne (that surprised me) but bro seems to like Chelsea more. Matt's more at ease with Shayne, but feels more passion for Chelsea. I'd go for the passion any day.

Sydney said...

I'm with ya SC -- chewing my nails here. I think he's really connected to Shayne and they keep showing her acing her relationships with everyone.

Parents weren't any help!

joy n said...

Matt and Chelsea seem to have a connection, too. This one is hard to figure. He just said he's falling in love with her, too.

Anonymous said...

Stupidcupid here,

Back to Barbados

Chelsea's laugh and voice are so childish.

Chelsea has trouble with PDA's and hand holding?????? Come on now.

He just said it, Chelsea is everything he's ever wanted, he hopes they can get through this together.

There you have it.

He chooses Chelsea.

My stomach and heart are aflutter.

Please give Matt and Shayne a chance, Matt, kk?

Sydney said...

He said to his parents that he felt the most chemistry with Chelsea yet I don't see it. I see it with Shayne. I still think they are editing it so we think it's Shayne but it will be Chelsea right?

Now seeing them on the island I see them connecting a bit more... she gave him a great gift. I see why he likes her. Maybe he wants a woman and Shayne, as mature as she is, is still a girl in a way?

And what is this with the bachelor getting to tell the girl he is falling in love with her? Didn't that happen the last time or two? What happened to the rule that you CAN"T give away what you are feeling in the F2 if you are the bachelor or bachelorette? Remember how much it was killing Trista and Ryan on their last date in front of the fire. He was begging her to tell him he was the one and she could not give away a thing. Now Matt tells Chelsea you know I'm falling in love with you.

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