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Monday, August 15, 2011
Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Bulletin - PoV Meeting
Adam saved himself, Brendon is on the block with Shelly.
I thought she had a deal with them too, but did she ever actually agree to it? Putting Shelly and Adam on the block might have given them the assumption that they had a deal perhaps.
So which side will Adam be on this week? I assume Rachel, Jeff & Jordon will vote for Brendon to stay. Kalia & Porsche will vote for him to go. If Adam votes with the Vets Shelly goes to the jury...if he votes with the newbies it is a tie and Dani decides. hmmmm
I think it would be interesting if it went to Dani. She's spent a lot of time trying to mend fences a little. She could blow it all up if she votes against J/J/R and boots Brendon.
I still think Shelly's her better play under the circumstances.
I really think if Dani wants Brendon out she needs J/J to vote that way also. Otherwise she runs the risk of annoying them also.
Adam must really be sweating his vote. If the house is split (I don't know that it is, by the way, they may all want Brendon out), he could be the critical vote. And once he's cast it, he can't play nice-nice with the other side anymore. If he votes with J/J against Kalia and Porsche, Dani's not going to forgive him. If he votes with Kalia and Porsche, he's done with J/J.
Should be some interesting negotiations moving forward.
Shelly is very cheerful right now because Dani told her she was safe this week (when Shelly was locked up in the Hoosegow). Dani (and Shelly) might be counting their chickens a little too soon.
I'd like Brendan to be gone because I find him such an annoying know-it-all. Almost more annoying than Rachel, and she's pretty dang annoying.
Whoever gets the boot this week, Dani is seriously considering putting Jeff up next. Depending on who wins HOH next, of course. And if BB really does do things like planning the challenges according to who they would like to win HOH/POV (to spice things up).
anon I think that's why J/J need to not go along with Dani. They have the power, they should use it. She wants Brendon out, they should NOT do it just for that reason.
And, frankly, the fact that Shelly is warming up to Dani is another good reason for them to jettison Shelly instead.
Adam's the wildcard. how will he go? If he votes with Kalia, Porsche and Dani then the vets are suddenly on the short end of the stick. It would be J/J/R vs the others.
Dani is either confused right now, or just confusing me. LOL Right now, I can't figure out what the heck she will actually do. She really WANTS Brendan out, but then turns around and starts talking about booting Shelly and keeping Brendan - in hopes of flipping B&R and acquiring the majority.
With J&J also talking about keeping Brendan to keep the heat off them (and getting Adam to vote with them), it just might end up a 6-0 vote to keep him. And we'll have another week, at least, watching those 2 slobber all over each other. ewww
If Shelly stays and Brendon goes, and if the newbies, K/P/S/A would stick with Dani.. then get out R/J/J,one by one, the newbies could then get out Dani and they would finally have the house to themselves... a newbie would therefore win. That could happen only if all the cards fell in the right place. Dani should be thinking ahead to this possibility before she gets too comfortable.
Whatever they do, I'm anxious to see who J&J do vote to oust this week.
After Dani supposedly made the deal with B/R she told Kalia she will in turn tell J/J all the info that B/R were selling her and the throwing under the bus. After Veto today Dani and Kalia decided that Porscha will win HOH next and take Jeff out next. IMO- That isn't a good idea. Rachel will be weak. She will need to go next if she doesnt win HOH
Why would it make any sense (other than you hate her) to boot a weak Rachel next rather than Big Jeff? If Dani manages to get Brendon this week and Jeff next week, she's all but won the game. I mean, seriously, she's only got Rachel left to compete with and a group of the weakest players in BB history in Porsche and Adam and what has Shelly won?
Dani ousting Brenchel to J/J might be a good move but it could also horribly backfire. The couples talk and Brenchel are great liars. All they have to do is tell J/J she's lying and she's done for. Getting the newbies to vote B out is her best bet. She breaks the tie and Shelly sees that J/J voted for her so she has no choice but to go to the dark side. At least then it's 3 against 3 playing for HOH. If J or J wins she can always use the Brenchel deal to try to get them to target Rachel.
Either way ya cut it, next week she has to rely on Porche & Kalia and the odds just aren't there!
I think this is the most critical time in the game for the newbs...
If I was dani, kalia, porche, shelly, and adam, my priority would be to get out the vets who have an obvious advantage.
They need to vote out brendan and then focus on eliminating jeff.
Dani needs to really convince adam that it would be better for him to play against individual players, because when it comes to jury votes his chances would be better against a group of individuals instead of a group of couples.
Jackie, I hope you got encouraging news from your Dr today. Please put your recovery first and BB foolish a distance second. We care more about you than what happens with these goofy hamsters. We look forward to seeing the post where you write you are feeling better.
Hey Jax! (I sent you a virtual peaches-n-cream pie)
Not a Shelly fan, but am even less a Brendan fan. I hope Brendan leaves - again. And stays gone this time (but no, there will undoubtedly be another twist to reunite the Loathsome Lovers)
Hope your knee feels better and that your stomach settles soon - I know how badly pain pills can make you feel. :-( I'm thinking of you and wishing you the best Jackie.
Jackie, I hope you had a very restful day and are on the mend! Don't even THINK about the hamsters; you and your health are much more important! I hope Vincent made you some delish chicken soup and purred all day -- that is such a soothing sound!
Witt :) WV: flarropp: The plan to evict Brendon ended up being a flarropp.
I wasnt "cheating" on you Jackie, but I do read Reality Steve (for my Challenge updates), and he had blurb about BB. And the guy on THAT blog also believes that the whole Brendan-coming-back was a rigged deal. The take over there is that Rachel has a deal with producers to make it to the final.
grrrr!!!! I am pretty loyal, but this season has really left a bad taste in my mouth. I'll be glad when TAR or Survivor are back, both of them have alot less production involvement (or so we think)
Joe- I understand Jeff is supposedly a big competitor, but really he hasn't won anything more than any newbie. I think if Dani does spill the beans about what B/R were saying it will fire Jeff up just enough to maybe win HOH. She may be thinking that he will put up Kalie,Rachel or Porscha. She is trying to mend ways with J/J still and i don't think she would mind anyone in the house leaving as long as it isn't her.
I think getting out Dani should be the real option to get out if one of her people don't win HOH. That would turn the house upside down, or atleast really unbalanced- the newbies wouldn't know where to turn.
Jackie, I agree with everything lynn1 said: hope you got good news from your doctor today, be sure to put your recovery way ahead of BB, and I'm looking forward to reading that you're feeling better. As long as you and Vincent are getting food and drink, everything else can wait.
I'm hoping that Brendon gets voted out this week. I haven't analyzed the strategy for the various players, but I'm just really, really tired of watching R & B.
Jackie, I agree with everything lynn1 said: hope you got good news from your doctor today, be sure to put your recovery way ahead of BB, and I'm looking forward to reading that you're feeling better. As long as you and Vincent are getting food and drink, everything else can wait.
I'm hoping that Brendon gets voted out this week. I haven't analyzed the strategy for the various players, but I'm just really, really tired of watching R & B.
Watching R&B's psycho-babble and co-dependency is incredible. He's such a control-freak, she's a nutcase, and they both have their own weird sense of entitlement.
Jackie - hope you are feeling better very very soon!!
Petals - interesting theory, but I bet the FCC would shut CBS down if they rigged something like this. They can manipulate all they want, but I don't think it can make us or anyone in the house love her! LOL And is it just me, or do the DR cuts seem more rehearsed or even more staged this year? Or am I finally going over the edge into BB paranoia??
I do read Reality Steve (for my Challenge updates), and he had blurb about BB. And the guy on THAT blog also believes that the whole Brendan-coming-back was a rigged deal. The take over there is that Rachel has a deal with producers to make it to the final. -------------
I hope not but anything is possible. While they can't rig the game so to speak, they can do a lot of influencing or manipulating or even over exaggerate a situation for ratings. Doing things to keep Rachael on, I'm thinking I don't believe that. She's not that great and Brendon even less. JMI though because some really like them. I didn't even watch most of BB13 Sunday and have lost interest in watching BB13 Showtime show because of Brendon coming back in the house..
Oy, which way do J/J go they cant trust rachel either way! but they may need brendon to win hoh. then again if they keep b/r and kahlia wins hoh j/j are screwed and will be so by b/r ugh ok so my vote is get rid of brendon stick with adam and shelly and hope rachel falls apart yet again and wins nothing. either way j/j have to win hoh. sadly i think kahlia will win it.
Rachel mistakenly believes america put brendon back in because they are well liked. reading lots of blogs etc, most voted brendon back in to help J/J rachel is delusional. I wish she were on the block, it would be a no brainer to boot her sorry ugliness out. j/j need to step it up an start winning some power.
ok the solution j/j can vote to keep brendon along with rachel of course. p/k/a can vote to evict him j/j can tell shelly they are doing that to keep rachel happy and force danielle to break the tie and have the blood on her hands. that way if shelly stays jordan can premeptively soothe her. and rachel will not be pissed at j/j and j/j need to say it just before voting so shelly cant out them to rachel or anyone else.
Chris i like your way of thinking, The only problem is that Rachel will no doubt put J/J up if she won HOH and Brendon was eliminated.
I really have to see one of B/R gone. I liked it when Rachel was a complete mess.
Hopefully she will be gone next but Dani and kalia decided yesterday that Porscha will win HOH on Thursday and nominate Jeff to get him out. Then they think it will be smooth sailing to the end. Don't then know this is BB nothing is Smooth Sailing..
The unfortunate thing about Big Brother is that it's a great concept but it's poorly executed by Grodner and the other producers. CBS must think she's doing a great job because the ratings are good, but if they bothered to check message boards & blogs they'd see that we all think she sucks at her job! Can you imagine what the show would be like if they got rid of her and put Mark Burnett or Jeff Probst in the producer slot?!?!
chaca the blood would be on danielle j/j would have kept their word to rachel. and danielle would not have. if danielle decides to get shelly out, oh well nothing lost it is a sticky situation for j/j but other than winning this next hoh they absolutely have to come out of this without blood and i only see "pretending" to save brendon as the way to go. hard to say where shelly is at with danielle at this point. someone other than k/p have to win hoh. I fear if rachel wins it she will target j/j anyway even if brendon stays. ugh ugh ugh there must be a double elim in a few weeks the finale is 90 mins and is on sept 14th after survivor begins.
Ork- They definetly read the blogs and boards. I am sure that is why they called Porsche into DR and made her throw out the muscle milk she laced with benefiber. Especially after Jordan drank it unknowingly.
I do think they go into twists with the best intentions but there is no way of the outcome.We do have a bunch of boring newbies. The hamsters should be given something to do in the house on the three days of "off days".
Chris- The bottom line is, J/J need to win an HOH or be in danger of being booted. At some point Dani will get blood on her hands. She isn't the great Dr Will...Although she thinks she is. Rachel I believe may jump to "the other side" if J/J vote out Brendan. I am not sure they will take her in though. It could be worth watching since it will be an even four/four. I have Rachel in the pool but its sad that I don't want those bragging rights.
Maybe Daniele should ask J/J whom they want out, and ask how much they would give her to make that happen.
Shelly, the ultimate floater, could go either way if she stays. If she'll stay, Daniele should try to lock her in for the dark side.
Isn't a double eviction likely soon? Is so, Daniele should look ahead, lay the groundwork now, and line up the votes for that. That's where keeping Shelly could be a smart move.
I don't see Shelly flipping on J/J. How many times has she said, to the point of nausea on my part, that she's there to get J/J to the end and would be glad of one of them won? It's ridiculous to me, but I believe she means it.
Orkkmommy, I think the only reason the ratings are good is because there is nothing else on to compare it with. I have been a viewer from the beginning and since Grodner has been the producer, the experience is very lacking. Even with live feeds. I don't have them but I've heard that much is cencored by her. I would love to see another producer replace her and see what happens.
It would take a LOT for Shelly to flip on J&J, especially Jordan. Doesn't strike me that she cares much about winning (for herself).
She has even said that if they want, she will help get them both really good jobs. (Shelly is a successful business woman, so I think she really could do that.)
If I was in the house I would be voting Brendon out.
The feeds aren't censored except when people are talking of their friends or family who didn't sign waivers. They also sensor all singing, wake up music,and humming. All comps with the exception of HOH endurance.
Yes the feeds are boring at times because there really isn't anything to do in the house from Saturday after Veto till Eviction night. They do have Veto ceremony on Mondays but those are pretty quick.
I have had the feeds since season 8, and think it is worth the 39.00 I spend for the three months. You can always go back and watch what happened at certain times. Do they get boring towards the end? Absolutly. I can also say that season has been somewhat boring but what we have are boring houseguests.
Just shows how different couples will behave in public.
They are exhibitionists. Even if it's done under covers, but the fact that Brenchal will 'do it' while cameras are on is unbelievable. Guess we shouldn't be surprised since Rachel likes planning scenarios for the feeds, and sex just might be one of those scenarios.
Thanks for posting the link ChaCha. I read her bio a few days ago and was aware that she is quite successful. Very impressive. Certainly not a run-of-the-mill BB player.
A few have mentioned she appears less than feminine, but I think of her more as tomboyish. Shelly's employment history is in the outdoors products and equipment industry, which kind of supports that theory.
I think she is totally a tomboy. Also with the industry she works in she has to be tuff. Friends of mine say I am really hard and to the point and I think she is like that in real life.
She lives only about ninety minutes awayfrom me and her daughter actually goes to school with a coworkers grandchild. I was telling him that this year I really want to go to their school fair to just have the chance to meet her in person. Hey maybe she can get me a six figure job...(lol)
There is something about her that is very interesting and I can't put my finger on it.
Thanks for the link on Shelly, very interesting! I guess 'you can't judge a book by it's cover'
She appears to be quite the businesswoman. She was probably trying to apply her business experiences and skills to the game but even that can only get you so far.
Let me just say I think Shelly letting Rachel know that Brendon is guilty of abuse is the best thing to come out of this season. I am by means no Rachel fan, but he is disgusting. As far as the game goes I hope the newbies start playing the game. I feel like they are just on vacation. Shelly is sneaky but at least she is trying to play, and if they don't vote out Brendon they are all morons. If you take him out you cripple Rachel and Jeff both, taking Shelly out removes the person who does the dishes. LOL
I just spoke to Miss Jackie and she has a terrible stomach virus. She said it is difficult to sit up at the computer but hopes to be back posting tomorrow. She has to reschedule her appointment with the knee Dr. She did say that it is a little better.
Margo, thank you!! Ok, back to chit chat. I like Shelly too. I don't think either Brendan or Jeff are abusive. I am guessing that they have a lot of competitions that play to various strengths, they pace them out in the beginning and then it just looks like it swings back and forth.
A stomach virus is just what Jackie didn't need, on top of her knee situation and strong pain meds. It's good news that the knee seems a bit better, but don't try to hurry things.
Margo, thanks for keeping us posted!
If nothing else, Jackie's absense makes me realize just how much I depend on her for BB information, analysis and insight between shows. This place is downright addicting.
Thanks for letting us know about Jackie, Margo. I think we all realize now just how much her blog means to all of us. I like to check in during the day to see if anyone has posted what is going on in the house.
I checked out the link on Shelly. I think she is a tough woman. I am glad she offered to help JJ get good jobs. Of course I am laughing as I remember her giving Jordan the "interview". Jordan might not become a brain surgeon, but her sweet persona would make a likable person to greet people. I am glad that Jeff knows what a treasure he has in her.
WV: nales -- I hope they put the nales in Brendon's coffin and send him on his way Thursday.
I don't think brendan is Physically Abusive. Verbally, mentally and emoitonally abusive, IMO- absolutly.
Jeff on the other hand dishes to Jordan what she actually dishes to me. When he says- Jordan you are so stupid, she will say it back to him. I believe they are playing.
Onto BB news- Rachel got Porsche alone to ask to keep Brendan.
Porsche said why are you coming to me and not Brendan.
She said she got nowhere last time she kept him so why should she now.
Rachel said that Shelly will put her up if she is HOH.
Porsche came back with I am going to talk with Shelly and see what she can offer me.
Brendan and Rachel told Dani what Porsche was saying and she said she will talk to her later about that.
Dani is tryng to make Brendan she is still holding the deal.
I believe this is so Rachel is distraught at HOH.
At this moment all houseguests are outside and getting along
To me, Brendan is a control freak and nags at Rachel. A lot. He'll go on and on forever and pick apart everything she says.
Brendan talks about how awful Jeff talks to Jordan (tells her not to "talk" game with anyone), but he does the same, and worse, to Rachel.
I think it was Sunday night, she was making Queso (sp?) in the kitchen and he started belittling her and saying she doesn't have any "real" friends that she can depend on. She took issue with that and ,unfortunately, gave a bad example of her good friends in Vegas. Of course, that brought out the green-eyed monster in him and he looked like thunder.
Guess she finally got a gut-full of his nagging because she finally snapped that that his friends at UCLA aren't "real" either. Set him back on his heels for a minute. It was good to see. But then he just started in on something else. sheesh
Rachel controls his attitude about people in the game with lies and exaggerations. Gets him all worked up about things people never said.
They are 2 peas in a pod and probably deserve each other.
Margo thanks for checking on Jackie for all of us. I for one have been really concerned about her. Jackie, if you get around to reading this please take care. Stay hydrated and do not try to rush back to your adoring fans too soon. We miss you but would rather you take a few days to get better than to have you over do and be unable to play with us for a long time.
It seems to me that, right or wrong, it takes controlling behavior to keep Rachel from spinning out of control. Jordon's DR sessions said it all -- when Brendon left, she said "I don't know how he does it" and when he returned, she said "thank goodness I don't have to babysit Rachel anymore."
Thanks Margo!! I'm so glad to hear about Jackie feeling a bit better! Strange how going to the Doctor is how you can catch something like that!! I can't tell you how many times today I started to post of FB or here - but work kept interfering!!
Margo, thanks for checking on Jackie for us. If there's one thing she doesn't need right now, it's a stomach bug. Jackie, please take it easy! :::hugs:::
As hard as it should be to feel sorry for Rachel, I do. She is obviously the one more deeply invested in the relationship and he uses that to "keep her in line" with what is just basically cruelty. Watch them when they're together... she is the one crawling all over him, throwing herself at him. I'm trying to remember if I've even see him kiss her. He can say what he wants about how much he loves her and how much she means to him... actions speak louder than words and his say that he has no respect for her. They are painful to watch and I wish him no luck and a quick trip out of the house.
Rachel confirming the deal made with Dani a day or 2 ago. Dani is promising "on her life" to keep Rachel safe if Brendan goes.
The other night, Dani was telling Shelly not to worry - that Brendan doesn't have the votes. So it looks like Dani plans getting Brendan out and then having Rachel as a stronger player on her side, along with Kalia and Porch.
I don't think Shelly will flip, but at that point, I have to wonder if Adam would. He's a wild card.
J&J will need to win to keep their allies and stay.
Rachel is going to flip from J/J to Dani if/when Brendon goes?!?!?! It sounds like Rachel is actually planning on that happening. Have all the votes really swung from Shelly to Brendon? I guess they are finally trying to get out someone who is an actual threat in the game. When did they all finally start playing the game?
Dani is using color coated candy korn to map out strategy now. In her season she used jelly beans.
Last night Dani was talking with Kalia and said that if she wins she knows she has to put up J/J. Kalia says she knows.she was going over the scenarios with kalia.
A few hours later Dani was talking and spilling a little to J/J. Everyone has a final three with Shelly.
Dani made a final three with J/J. although three hours earlier she was talking again about Kalia putting out Jeff next week.
J/J Have to win HOH this week.(MHO)
I am just waiting to see when all houseguests start talking about how not only shelly but Dani has final three with everyone..
Jackie--hope you are feeling better this morning. The last thing you needed was a stomach virus while trying to recover from knee surgery...Take it easy!!
I was thinking about why the show didn't air any footage of the "trashy wedding". I think they are saving it for the finale OR they are actually comtemplating paying for the real wedding!
This has been a pretty boring season. I am glad I didn't pay for the live feeds!
They need to get Brendan out and start playing the game! There are really only 2 people doing that right now and that is Dani and Jeff.
BTW--As the song says...."The bluest skies are in Seattle!!" Gorgeous day today, light breeze, 78 degrees and not a cloud in the sky.
Not to defend outright abuse, but look at all the annoyance and aggravation Rachel causes just on this board—to people who don't even know her! For a couple hours a week, we see the tip of the iceberg of what Brendon has to live with 24/7. Not only can you understand his impatience with her, but you wonder what (if anything, beyond the physical) he really sees in her.
For insight into Shelly's ongoing loyalty in a game for money, take a look at her job and career path. Don't think she doesn't know how to climb the ladder, and when to hold, fold, and jump ship.
I am a feed watcher and in my opinion Brendan may seem like he has self esteem but in reality he must have little to none and having Rachel seems like a catch. He seems really needy as does she. I remember last year the very unflattering interview the x girlfriend gave on the the show.
I believe those two should really not be together. They are like vinegar and oil.
I also believe that neither of them are 100% comfortable with each other or themselves that they have to say I love you or My fiance repeatedly through the day.
How the parents of these two can be happy for them is besides me.
I just don't see how they are much different out of the house. We really don't know how much pressure the house brings on but I am sure alot.
Its just funny that Jeff and Jordan don't smother each other like that. I could be the fact they live in seperate states and had a friendship before romance became involved
Adam is "honesty by omission." People talk to him, he nods or gives an uh-huh, but doesn't say much.
Shelly is as loyal to J&J as she can be, but Dani has been extra nice to Shelly lately and has garnered appreciation. Does Shelly actually have any real deals with anyone but J&J?
J&J questioning Shelly's loyalty because she spends a lot of time being nice to the "dark side" now. Actually, she's being nicer to everyone since she achieved Solitary and the block, so that doesn't mean much. But...
Rachel has deals with both sides, and despite her claims of 'always being loyal' she lies (like the rest) and she'll stab each and every one of them in the back.
Brendan was ripping Rachel last night. She popped Porch's beer and gave a sneaky grin and he wasn't happy. He lectured about pulling crap that will turn people even more against her. That she's her own worst enemy. He went on and on and they were pretty much yelling at each other. (They might get married, but I don't see their relationship as lasting.)
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Thank You! Hope you are feeling better.
Jackie, don't worry about updates until your better. BB can wait.
Thanks for the update Jackie. I hope this means you are feeling a little better. I will be happy with whichever of those 2 goes home.
what happened to her "deal" with brenchal?
I thought she had a deal with them too, but did she ever actually agree to it? Putting Shelly and Adam on the block might have given them the assumption that they had a deal perhaps.
Now let's see what happens. They got Brendon out once. Can they do it again?????
PQ
So which side will Adam be on this week? I assume Rachel, Jeff & Jordon will vote for Brendon to stay. Kalia & Porsche will vote for him to go. If Adam votes with the Vets Shelly goes to the jury...if he votes with the newbies it is a tie and Dani decides. hmmmm
@Margo
I think it would be interesting if it went to Dani. She's spent a lot of time trying to mend fences a little. She could blow it all up if she votes against J/J/R and boots Brendon.
I still think Shelly's her better play under the circumstances.
I really think if Dani wants Brendon out she needs J/J to vote that way also. Otherwise she runs the risk of annoying them also.
Adam must really be sweating his vote. If the house is split (I don't know that it is, by the way, they may all want Brendon out), he could be the critical vote. And once he's cast it, he can't play nice-nice with the other side anymore. If he votes with J/J against Kalia and Porsche, Dani's not going to forgive him. If he votes with Kalia and Porsche, he's done with J/J.
Should be some interesting negotiations moving forward.
Margo, you are so right....Dani needs to get "blod on her hands" that she is so afraid of......
Shelly is very cheerful right now because Dani told her she was safe this week (when Shelly was locked up in the Hoosegow). Dani (and Shelly) might be counting their chickens a little too soon.
I'd like Brendan to be gone because I find him such an annoying know-it-all. Almost more annoying than Rachel, and she's pretty dang annoying.
Whoever gets the boot this week, Dani is seriously considering putting Jeff up next. Depending on who wins HOH next, of course. And if BB really does do things like planning the challenges according to who they would like to win HOH/POV (to spice things up).
....and the beat goes on!
anon I think that's why J/J need to not go along with Dani. They have the power, they should use it. She wants Brendon out, they should NOT do it just for that reason.
And, frankly, the fact that Shelly is warming up to Dani is another good reason for them to jettison Shelly instead.
Adam's the wildcard. how will he go? If he votes with Kalia, Porsche and Dani then the vets are suddenly on the short end of the stick. It would be J/J/R vs the others.
Joe,
Dani is either confused right now, or just confusing me. LOL Right now, I can't figure out what the heck she will actually do. She really WANTS Brendan out, but then turns around and starts talking about booting Shelly and keeping Brendan - in hopes of flipping B&R and acquiring the majority.
With J&J also talking about keeping Brendan to keep the heat off them (and getting Adam to vote with them), it just might end up a 6-0 vote to keep him. And we'll have another week, at least, watching those 2 slobber all over each other. ewww
If Shelly stays and Brendon goes, and if the newbies, K/P/S/A would stick with Dani.. then get out R/J/J,one by one, the newbies could then get out Dani and they would finally have the house to themselves... a newbie would therefore win. That could happen only if all the cards fell in the right place. Dani should be thinking ahead to this possibility before she gets too comfortable.
Whatever they do, I'm anxious to see who J&J do vote to oust this week.
Jackie... I deleted my comment so I could say I hope you're feeling better.. then I changed a couple of words and still hit send.
I do so hope you're feeling better.
Jackie,
Please get better soon. With all the regulars we can update for you.
After Dani supposedly made the deal with B/R she told Kalia she will in turn tell J/J all the info that B/R were selling her and the throwing under the bus.
After Veto today Dani and Kalia decided that Porscha will win HOH next and take Jeff out next.
IMO- That isn't a good idea. Rachel will be weak. She will need to go next if she doesnt win HOH
Woohoo! Woohoo! Let's do a happy dance! (Well, not you, Jackie...somebody happy dance for Jackie, please!!!)
chacha,
Why would it make any sense (other than you hate her) to boot a weak Rachel next rather than Big Jeff? If Dani manages to get Brendon this week and Jeff next week, she's all but won the game. I mean, seriously, she's only got Rachel left to compete with and a group of the weakest players in BB history in Porsche and Adam and what has Shelly won?
well goodbye Shelly. Goodbye Dani, next week.
Dani ousting Brenchel to J/J might be a good move but it could also horribly backfire. The couples talk and Brenchel are great liars. All they have to do is tell J/J she's lying and she's done for. Getting the newbies to vote B out is her best bet. She breaks the tie and Shelly sees that J/J voted for her so she has no choice but to go to the dark side. At least then it's 3 against 3 playing for HOH. If J or J wins she can always use the Brenchel deal to try to get them to target Rachel.
Either way ya cut it, next week she has to rely on Porche & Kalia and the odds just aren't there!
I think this is the most critical time in the game for the newbs...
If I was dani, kalia, porche, shelly, and adam, my priority would be to get out the vets who have an obvious advantage.
They need to vote out brendan and then focus on eliminating jeff.
Dani needs to really convince adam that it would be better for him to play against individual players, because when it comes to jury votes his chances would be better against a group of individuals instead of a group of couples.
Jackie,
I hope you got encouraging news from your Dr today.
Please put your recovery first and BB foolish a distance second.
We care more about you than what happens with these goofy hamsters.
We look forward to seeing the post where you write you are feeling better.
I meant to say, Please put your recovery first and BB foolishness a distance second.
Hey Jax! (I sent you a virtual peaches-n-cream pie)
Not a Shelly fan, but am even less a Brendan fan. I hope Brendan leaves - again. And stays gone this time (but no, there will undoubtedly be another twist to reunite the Loathsome Lovers)
Hope your knee feels better and that your stomach settles soon - I know how badly pain pills can make you feel. :-( I'm thinking of you and wishing you the best Jackie.
Jackie, I hope you had a very restful day and are on the mend! Don't even THINK about the hamsters; you and your health are much more important! I hope Vincent made you some delish chicken soup and purred all day -- that is such a soothing sound!
Witt :)
WV: flarropp: The plan to evict Brendon ended up being a flarropp.
I wasnt "cheating" on you Jackie, but I do read Reality Steve (for my Challenge updates), and he had blurb about BB. And the guy on THAT blog also believes that the whole Brendan-coming-back was a rigged deal. The take over there is that Rachel has a deal with producers to make it to the final.
grrrr!!!! I am pretty loyal, but this season has really left a bad taste in my mouth. I'll be glad when TAR or Survivor are back, both of them have alot less production involvement (or so we think)
Joe-
I understand Jeff is supposedly a big competitor, but really he hasn't won anything more than any newbie.
I think if Dani does spill the beans about what B/R were saying it will fire Jeff up just enough to maybe win HOH. She may be thinking that he will put up Kalie,Rachel or Porscha. She is trying to mend ways with J/J still and i don't think she would mind anyone in the house leaving as long as it isn't her.
I think getting out Dani should be the real option to get out if one of her people don't win HOH.
That would turn the house upside down, or atleast really unbalanced- the newbies wouldn't know where to turn.
Jackie, I agree with everything lynn1 said: hope you got good news from your doctor today, be sure to put your recovery way ahead of BB, and I'm looking forward to reading that you're feeling better. As long as you and Vincent are getting food and drink, everything else can wait.
I'm hoping that Brendon gets voted out this week. I haven't analyzed the strategy for the various players, but I'm just really, really tired of watching R & B.
Jackie, I agree with everything lynn1 said: hope you got good news from your doctor today, be sure to put your recovery way ahead of BB, and I'm looking forward to reading that you're feeling better. As long as you and Vincent are getting food and drink, everything else can wait.
I'm hoping that Brendon gets voted out this week. I haven't analyzed the strategy for the various players, but I'm just really, really tired of watching R & B.
With you there Sally.
Watching R&B's psycho-babble and co-dependency is incredible. He's such a control-freak, she's a nutcase, and they both have their own weird sense of entitlement.
Jackie - hope you are feeling better very very soon!!
Petals - interesting theory, but I bet the FCC would shut CBS down if they rigged something like this. They can manipulate all they want, but I don't think it can make us or anyone in the house love her! LOL And is it just me, or do the DR cuts seem more rehearsed or even more staged this year? Or am I finally going over the edge into BB paranoia??
SueGee on the Left Coast
I do read Reality Steve (for my Challenge updates), and he had blurb about BB. And the guy on THAT blog also believes that the whole Brendan-coming-back was a rigged deal. The take over there is that Rachel has a deal with producers to make it to the final.
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I hope not but anything is possible. While they can't rig the game so to speak, they can do a lot of influencing or manipulating or even over exaggerate a situation for ratings. Doing things to keep Rachael on, I'm thinking I don't believe that. She's not that great and Brendon even less. JMI though because some really like them. I didn't even watch most of BB13 Sunday and have lost interest in watching BB13 Showtime show because of Brendon coming back in the house..
Jackie,
Hope you are feeling better. Miss you much
Oy, which way do J/J go
they cant trust rachel either way!
but they may need brendon to win hoh.
then again if they keep b/r
and kahlia wins hoh
j/j are screwed and will be so by b/r
ugh
ok so my vote is get rid of brendon
stick with adam and shelly
and hope rachel falls apart yet again and wins nothing.
either way j/j have to win hoh.
sadly i think kahlia will win it.
Rachel mistakenly believes america put brendon back in because they are well liked.
reading lots of blogs etc, most voted brendon back in to help J/J
rachel is delusional.
I wish she were on the block, it would be a no brainer to boot her sorry ugliness out.
j/j need to step it up an start winning some power.
ok the solution
j/j can vote to keep brendon along with rachel of course.
p/k/a can vote to evict him
j/j can tell shelly they are doing that to keep rachel happy and force danielle to break the tie and have the blood on her hands.
that way if shelly stays jordan can premeptively soothe her.
and rachel will not be pissed at j/j
and j/j need to say it just before voting so shelly cant out them to rachel or anyone else.
Chris i like your way of thinking, The only problem is that Rachel will no doubt put J/J up if she won HOH and Brendon was eliminated.
I really have to see one of B/R gone. I liked it when Rachel was a complete mess.
Hopefully she will be gone next but Dani and kalia decided yesterday that Porscha will win HOH on Thursday and nominate Jeff to get him out. Then they think it will be smooth sailing to the end.
Don't then know this is BB nothing is Smooth Sailing..
The unfortunate thing about Big Brother is that it's a great concept but it's poorly executed by Grodner and the other producers. CBS must think she's doing a great job because the ratings are good, but if they bothered to check message boards & blogs they'd see that we all think she sucks at her job! Can you imagine what the show would be like if they got rid of her and put Mark Burnett or Jeff Probst in the producer slot?!?!
chaca
the blood would be on danielle
j/j would have kept their word to rachel.
and danielle would not have.
if danielle decides to get shelly out, oh well nothing lost
it is a sticky situation for j/j but other than winning this next hoh they absolutely have to come out of this without blood and i only see "pretending" to save brendon as the way to go.
hard to say where shelly is at with danielle at this point.
someone other than k/p have to win hoh. I fear if rachel wins it she will target j/j anyway even if brendon stays. ugh ugh ugh
there must be a double elim in a few weeks
the finale is 90 mins and is on sept 14th after survivor begins.
Ork-
They definetly read the blogs and boards. I am sure that is why they called Porsche into DR and made her throw out the muscle milk she laced with benefiber. Especially after Jordan drank it unknowingly.
I do think they go into twists with the best intentions but there is no way of the outcome.We do have a bunch of boring newbies.
The hamsters should be given something to do in the house on the three days of "off days".
Chris-
The bottom line is, J/J need to win an HOH or be in danger of being booted.
At some point Dani will get blood on her hands. She isn't the great Dr Will...Although she thinks she is.
Rachel I believe may jump to "the other side" if J/J vote out Brendan. I am not sure they will take her in though.
It could be worth watching since it will be an even four/four.
I have Rachel in the pool but its sad that I don't want those bragging rights.
Maybe Daniele should ask J/J whom they want out, and ask how much they would give her to make that happen.
Shelly, the ultimate floater, could go either way if she stays. If she'll stay, Daniele should try to lock her in for the dark side.
Isn't a double eviction likely soon? Is so, Daniele should look ahead, lay the groundwork now, and line up the votes for that. That's where keeping Shelly could be a smart move.
I don't see Shelly flipping on J/J. How many times has she said, to the point of nausea on my part, that she's there to get J/J to the end and would be glad of one of them won? It's ridiculous to me, but I believe she means it.
I would say double eviction could come as early as next week
Orkkmommy, I think the only reason the ratings are good is because there is nothing else on to compare it with. I have been a viewer from the beginning and since Grodner has been the producer, the experience is very lacking. Even with live feeds. I don't have them but I've heard that much is cencored by her. I would love to see another producer replace her and see what happens.
They have to vote Brendan out
I agree with RBennie.
It would take a LOT for Shelly to flip on J&J, especially Jordan. Doesn't strike me that she cares much about winning (for herself).
She has even said that if they want, she will help get them both really good jobs. (Shelly is a successful business woman, so I think she really could do that.)
Brenchel having sex everywhere is disgusting
If I was in the house I would be voting Brendon out.
The feeds aren't censored except when people are talking of their friends or family who didn't sign waivers. They also sensor all singing, wake up music,and humming. All comps with the exception of HOH endurance.
Yes the feeds are boring at times because there really isn't anything to do in the house from Saturday after Veto till Eviction night. They do have Veto ceremony on Mondays but those are pretty quick.
I have had the feeds since season 8, and think it is worth the 39.00 I spend for the three months.
You can always go back and watch what happened at certain times.
Do they get boring towards the end? Absolutly.
I can also say that season has been somewhat boring but what we have are boring houseguests.
Just shows how different couples will behave in public.
They are exhibitionists. Even if it's done under covers, but the fact that Brenchal will 'do it' while cameras are on is unbelievable. Guess we shouldn't be surprised since Rachel likes planning scenarios for the feeds, and sex just might be one of those scenarios.
They really are the ultimate disgusting duo.
here is a link to what shelly does for a living.
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/12971567997259xg7zesj
Thanks for posting the link ChaCha.
I read her bio a few days ago and was aware that she is quite successful. Very impressive. Certainly not a run-of-the-mill BB player.
A few have mentioned she appears less than feminine, but I think of her more as tomboyish. Shelly's employment history is in the outdoors products and equipment industry, which kind of supports that theory.
I think she is totally a tomboy.
Also with the industry she works in she has to be tuff.
Friends of mine say I am really hard and to the point and I think she is like that in real life.
She lives only about ninety minutes awayfrom me and her daughter actually goes to school with a coworkers grandchild.
I was telling him that this year I really want to go to their school fair to just have the chance to meet her in person. Hey maybe she can get me a six figure job...(lol)
There is something about her that is very interesting and I can't put my finger on it.
chacha said;
here is a link to what shelly does for a living.
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/12971567997259xg7zesj
Thanks for the link on Shelly, very interesting! I guess 'you can't judge a book by it's cover'
She appears to be quite the businesswoman. She was probably trying to apply her business experiences and skills to the game but even that can only get you so far.
Ed
ChaCha, I like Shelly, too. AN interesting woman. PQ
I kind of think America voted for Brendon because they assumed the hamsters would do their part and get rid of RACHEL!!!
M
Let me just say I think Shelly letting Rachel know that Brendon is guilty of abuse is the best thing to come out of this season. I am by means no Rachel fan, but he is disgusting. As far as the game goes I hope the newbies start playing the game. I feel like they are just on vacation. Shelly is sneaky but at least she is trying to play, and if they don't vote out Brendon they are all morons. If you take him out you cripple Rachel and Jeff both, taking Shelly out removes the person who does the dishes. LOL
Angie in KC
When did Rachel say that Brendan abused her? I totally missed that!!
M
Ok, enough chit chat. Jackie, ARE YOU OK?
Agreed Justine... Of course, if she's really sick, she's probably not reading this either.
Jackie... let us know you're OK as soon as you can!!!
Ditto Justene. I'm getting really worried about Jackie. Is there anyone who can call and check on her?
I just spoke to Miss Jackie and she has a terrible stomach virus. She said it is difficult to sit up at the computer but hopes to be back posting tomorrow. She has to reschedule her appointment with the knee Dr. She did say that it is a little better.
Margo
Thanks Margo!!
Thanks Margo... you are super!!
Margo, thank you!! Ok, back to chit chat. I like Shelly too. I don't think either Brendan or Jeff are abusive. I am guessing that they have a lot of competitions that play to various strengths, they pace them out in the beginning and then it just looks like it swings back and forth.
(Just pretending not to worry now.)
Thanks Margo. Good to hear she's better.
my wv is metter: Jackie is feeling metter! I tolk funnie!
A stomach virus is just what Jackie didn't need, on top of her knee situation and strong pain meds. It's good news that the knee seems a bit better, but don't try to hurry things.
Margo, thanks for keeping us posted!
If nothing else, Jackie's absense makes me realize just how much I depend on her for BB information, analysis and insight between shows. This place is downright addicting.
Thanks for letting us know about Jackie, Margo. I think we all realize now just how much her blog means to all of us. I like to check in during the day to see if anyone has posted what is going on in the house.
I checked out the link on Shelly. I think she is a tough woman. I am glad she offered to help JJ get good jobs. Of course I am laughing as I remember her giving Jordan the "interview". Jordan might not become a brain surgeon, but her sweet persona would make a likable person to greet people. I am glad that Jeff knows what a treasure he has in her.
WV: nales -- I hope they put the nales in Brendon's coffin and send him on his way Thursday.
I don't think brendan is Physically Abusive. Verbally, mentally and emoitonally abusive, IMO- absolutly.
Jeff on the other hand dishes to Jordan what she actually dishes to me. When he says- Jordan you are so stupid, she will say it back to him. I believe they are playing.
Onto BB news- Rachel got Porsche alone to ask to keep Brendan.
Porsche said why are you coming to me and not Brendan.
She said she got nowhere last time she kept him so why should she now.
Rachel said that Shelly will put her up if she is HOH.
Porsche came back with I am going to talk with Shelly and see what she can offer me.
Brendan and Rachel told Dani what Porsche was saying and she said she will talk to her later about that.
Dani is tryng to make Brendan she is still holding the deal.
I believe this is so Rachel is distraught at HOH.
At this moment all houseguests are outside and getting along
Depends on how you define abusive.
To me, Brendan is a control freak and nags at Rachel. A lot. He'll go on and on forever and pick apart everything she says.
Brendan talks about how awful Jeff talks to Jordan (tells her not to "talk" game with anyone), but he does the same, and worse, to Rachel.
I think it was Sunday night, she was making Queso (sp?) in the kitchen and he started belittling her and saying she doesn't have any "real" friends that she can depend on. She took issue with that and ,unfortunately, gave a bad example of her good friends in Vegas. Of course, that brought out the green-eyed monster in him and he looked like thunder.
Guess she finally got a gut-full of his nagging because she finally snapped that that his friends at UCLA aren't "real" either. Set him back on his heels for a minute. It was good to see. But then he just started in on something else. sheesh
Rachel controls his attitude about people in the game with lies and exaggerations. Gets him all worked up about things people never said.
They are 2 peas in a pod and probably deserve each other.
Margo thanks for checking on Jackie for all of us. I for one have been really concerned about her.
Jackie,
if you get around to reading this please take care. Stay hydrated and do not try to rush back to your adoring fans too soon.
We miss you but would rather you take a few days to get better than to have you over do and be unable to play with us for a long time.
It seems to me that, right or wrong, it takes controlling behavior to keep Rachel from spinning out of control. Jordon's DR sessions said it all -- when Brendon left, she said "I don't know how he does it" and when he returned, she said "thank goodness I don't have to babysit Rachel anymore."
Thanks Margo!! I'm so glad to hear about Jackie feeling a bit better! Strange how going to the Doctor is how you can catch something like that!! I can't tell you how many times today I started to post of FB or here - but work kept interfering!!
SueGee
Margo, thanks for checking on Jackie for us. If there's one thing she doesn't need right now, it's a stomach bug.
Jackie, please take it easy! :::hugs:::
Witt :)
Does Jackie know about the recall on beef, maybe she might be one of those people?
As hard as it should be to feel sorry for Rachel, I do. She is obviously the one more deeply invested in the relationship and he uses that to "keep her in line" with what is just basically cruelty. Watch them when they're together... she is the one crawling all over him, throwing herself at him. I'm trying to remember if I've even see him kiss her. He can say what he wants about how much he loves her and how much she means to him... actions speak louder than words and his say that he has no respect for her. They are painful to watch and I wish him no luck and a quick trip out of the house.
THANKS MARGO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel confirming the deal made with Dani a day or 2 ago. Dani is promising "on her life" to keep Rachel safe if Brendan goes.
The other night, Dani was telling Shelly not to worry - that Brendan doesn't have the votes. So it looks like Dani plans getting Brendan out and then having Rachel as a stronger player on her side, along with Kalia and Porch.
I don't think Shelly will flip, but at that point, I have to wonder if Adam would. He's a wild card.
J&J will need to win to keep their allies and stay.
I have not heard the phrase, "I'm not gonna lie" so much in my life!
and I am not lying! =)
Jackie, we miss you! Get well soon!
Caraleigh
Rachel is going to flip from J/J to Dani if/when Brendon goes?!?!?! It sounds like Rachel is actually planning on that happening. Have all the votes really swung from Shelly to Brendon? I guess they are finally trying to get out someone who is an actual threat in the game. When did they all finally start playing the game?
Witt :)
Feel better soon Jackie.
Has anyone noticed how Adam is
suddenly winning?
Playing possum all along?
Estelle
What did I miss? Did he win something other than the POV?
Dani is using color coated candy korn to map out strategy now. In her season she used jelly beans.
Last night Dani was talking with Kalia and said that if she wins she knows she has to put up J/J. Kalia says she knows.she was going over the scenarios with kalia.
A few hours later Dani was talking and spilling a little to J/J. Everyone has a final three with Shelly.
Dani made a final three with J/J. although three hours earlier she was talking again about Kalia putting out Jeff next week.
J/J Have to win HOH this week.(MHO)
I am just waiting to see when all houseguests start talking about how not only shelly but Dani has final three with everyone..
Jackie--hope you are feeling better this morning. The last thing you needed was a stomach virus while trying to recover from knee surgery...Take it easy!!
I was thinking about why the show didn't air any footage of the "trashy wedding". I think they are saving it for the finale OR they are actually comtemplating paying for the real wedding!
This has been a pretty boring season. I am glad I didn't pay for the live feeds!
They need to get Brendan out and start playing the game! There are really only 2 people doing that right now and that is Dani and Jeff.
BTW--As the song says...."The bluest skies are in Seattle!!" Gorgeous day today, light breeze, 78 degrees and not a cloud in the sky.
Not to defend outright abuse, but look at all the annoyance and aggravation Rachel causes just on this board—to people who don't even know her! For a couple hours a week, we see the tip of the iceberg of what Brendon has to live with 24/7. Not only can you understand his impatience with her, but you wonder what (if anything, beyond the physical) he really sees in her.
For insight into Shelly's ongoing loyalty in a game for money, take a look at her job and career path. Don't think she doesn't know how to climb the ladder, and when to hold, fold, and jump ship.
Thanks Margo!! I was really getting worried! Hope you get to feeling better Jackie!
And Thanks everyone for the updates=)
anon 12:59
I am a feed watcher and in my opinion Brendan may seem like he has self esteem but in reality he must have little to none and having Rachel seems like a catch.
He seems really needy as does she.
I remember last year the very unflattering interview the x girlfriend gave on the the show.
I believe those two should really not be together. They are like vinegar and oil.
I also believe that neither of them are 100% comfortable with each other or themselves that they have to say I love you or My fiance repeatedly through the day.
How the parents of these two can be happy for them is besides me.
I just don't see how they are much different out of the house. We really don't know how much pressure the house brings on but I am sure alot.
Its just funny that Jeff and Jordan don't smother each other like that. I could be the fact they live in seperate states and had a friendship before romance became involved
Pretty interesting article i just read on jokers
http://www.jokersupdates.com/jarticles/article.php?article=1794
Adam is "honesty by omission."
People talk to him, he nods or gives an uh-huh, but doesn't say much.
Shelly is as loyal to J&J as she can be, but Dani has been extra nice to Shelly lately and has garnered appreciation. Does Shelly actually have any real deals with anyone but J&J?
J&J questioning Shelly's loyalty because she spends a lot of time being nice to the "dark side" now. Actually, she's being nicer to everyone since she achieved Solitary and the block, so that doesn't mean much. But...
Rachel has deals with both sides, and despite her claims of 'always being loyal' she lies (like the rest) and she'll stab each and every one of them in the back.
Brendan was ripping Rachel last night. She popped Porch's beer and gave a sneaky grin and he wasn't happy. He lectured about pulling crap that will turn people even more against her. That she's her own worst enemy. He went on and on and they were pretty much yelling at each other. (They might get married, but I don't see their relationship as lasting.)
chacha....loved the article about Jeff and Jordan on jokers...THANK YOU! :-)
ChaCha... loved the link to J&J. May not be 100% factual as the writer admits, but it's good reading.
Jackie...see you tonight, right? You were truly missed.
Thank you, Jackie! I hope you're feeling better soon.
Thank you, Jackie. i enjoy your updates! I hope you're feeling better soon!
I hope your feeling ok was a little worried until I seen other peoples posts....
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