<--- Will and Erika discussing how it was to leave the house after their seasons.
It's been 24 hours of stunning developments with temperatures running high both in the house and on the Internet. I don't think any of us could have predicted the latest turn of events.
Here's what's happened this evening in that Big Brother House Without a Jedi:
- After the feeds returned, even James seemed a bit bereft - "I've never been in the house without Howie here."
- Janelle was crying and saying she hates Danielle, Erika and Chicken George.
- After James consoled her, Will came along. Janelle told him that she thinks everyone hates her because they all cheered when she lost the HOH game. Will said that was the wrong thing to do. He told her that people fear her as a strong player. He also said that he's embarrassed and would understand her hating him for backstabbing her by voting out Howie. [Editor's note: The more you watch Will, the more you see that he thinks ahead and always says what people want to hear. He also sounds so sincere that it's scary. It is kind of amazing.]
- Ohhh! He told her not to let James fool her. Good. Then he told her he wants to get Mike Boogie (new HOH) to put up Danielle and James.
- They discussed how bad Howie took both the nomination and the eviction. According to Will, he "imploded."
- At the end of their talk, he apologized once again and said he was sorry she felt so bad. "I'm feeling better now, Will." [Editor's note: Do you think I can have Will negotiate a raise for me at my workplace?]
- Meanwhile, James and Danielle blame Janelle for every eviction which has taken place this season.
- Will told Janelle that James voted for Howie to stay just for the possible jury vote. [Editor's note: Aha! He did vote for him! I guess the vote was 2 - 4.]
- Will thinks he has no chance of winning. [Editor's note: I think if anyone should win for people manipulation skills, he should. If he gets to the final two, he just may.]
- James thinks he'll be backdoored within two weeks. [Editor's note: Cool!]
- Apparently Howie really lit into Chicken George at the eviction... and just about everyone else. He just lost it.
- Although she felt better for a bit, Janelle cried again claiming she'll never be happy again. She's to the point of being almost physically ill from working herself up so much.
- While she was upset, James kept asking her if Will said anything to her. Looking for clues? Great timing there, James.
- Mike's HOH room tour got the quietest crowd ever. He kept saying that he didn't know the people in the pictures and wondered if Jonah (production staff) was playing a trick on him. At the mention of Jonah, we got flames. They think the pictures are of Howie's family. Now, that's a quite the error, huh?
- Will got Janelle out of her hiding spot and tried to get her to mingle with others and check out the HOH room.
- Janelle said Will voted Howie out because he called out all the alliances in the house.
- Both Will (especially) and Mike Boogie defended Janelle's behavior to Danielle and Erika. For once, the guys seem to be showing some compassion. [Editor's note: Are pigs flying over Hoboken?]
The mood in the house is pretty subdued. It seems that the majority of the house is saddened not only by Howie's eviction, but the way he went out.
I wonder how he's going to get along with Marcellas in sequester?
52 comments:
Girl, get some sleep.....hehe...thanks for the updates...geesh, just reading it made me feel all sad :( I have to wonder why Will is being all nice..is it for real or not?
Jackie,
Thanks for the latest post. The more I read about Will's behavior, the more I am convinced that he is a sociopath. It's about the manipulation of the other HGs for him. That's the part he enjoys, the $$$ is secondary. What a sicko!!! He truly has no feelings for others or remorse for his bad actions. The guy really needs professional help. Did you ever notice Julie can't stand him? She cuts him off and keeps her chats with him to a minimum.
Wow I feel for Howie - That is an awful error if indeed those were pictures of Howie's Family Did Mike eventually get his family photos? I feel for Janelle I don't understand why she has so many haters in the house - its obvious she has many fans outside the house, Its a shame, Thanks Jackie.
Personwithsuperlongname,
WOW, your idea is absolutely genius. If they do THAT, they ABSOLUTELY deserve to win..though, they will make soooooooo many enemies on that scheme, who'd vote for them! LOL
Thanks for letting me know about the feeds Jackie. boy, it is so annoying to constantly be getting those flame/clouds.
I agree with Jackie, no more bashing of each other. Everyone has their opinions and their favourites.
Jackie, I heard CG talking to Erika saying he would explain to her after the show his reasons why he put up Howie, that more went into it that he could not discuss. Do you know anything further about that?
Sallie
Wow good thinking willunrivaledinannalsofrealitytvhistory....wow..im tired from typing :)
It will be most interesting to see how the next few weeks out...I can only imagine the look on Marci's face when he sees Howie...lol
They are jealous of Janelle. They say it's because she's a good competitor, but it's not. It's because she is a fan favorite. I have heard many times that there was a pre-show alliance and I'm believing it.
I'm not a Mike, Danielle, or James fan. This game is very mean, it always has been very mean. They bullied George and then they trash Janelle. They don't like her. They keep on talking about it's a game, but then they trash these people. Just say like it is, you do not like this person. And, Mike is one of the worst ones. These guys are not nice people.
I'm glad Howie exploded. I'm glad he outed the alliances. I'm glad he did everything he did. He was done wrong. It's rediculous.
I hate hearing them trash everyone, that's all they do. They do it to everyone they do not like. It's absolutely rotten. Bad people.
Penny
I don't think that you can put yourself on the block.
When Howie trashed alliances. Who did he say Will/Boogie were with? God knows, CT is in a million alliances. I am VERY curious to see where their true feelings are at. I guess Mike's nominations will tell us oh so well
poor howie :-(
Penny, I so agree with you. They are jealous of Janelle. She and George seem to be the only decent people left in there.
The others are definitely not people I'd want to know. I don't think they could have enough redeeming qualities!
I hate hearing them trash everyone, that's all they do. They do it to everyone they do not like. It's absolutely rotten. Bad people.
Penny
8/19/2006 1:04 AM
I agree Penny - " its a game " is an escape goat " from having to say their actually jealous, envy a certain person - notice each time any of them say its a game its after they've trashed and called Janelle an immature name or its to justify their behavior - ok guys it is a game - however there are some games that should be played with respect and dignity, provided you have a well respected mature NBA players cursing out fans - or what have you - what kind of example are they showing - alright Tomorrow I'll think of a better example, hahaahaaaaa
Sarig
NJ again. I wrote to cbs about Mike Boogie telling people in the house about his special power. Keep emailing CBS so they can evict Boogie and redo the HOH like they did for the HOH malfunction two weeks ago. Julie Chen said in her speech that the person who hold the coupd'etat can tell no one. I would love to see ct if cbs looks into the live feeds and determines he broke the rule. I for one believe in miracles. Get emailing everyone.
NJ
little willy won't go home"-- A montage to Will,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bklv5u2t4U
Hi Jackie, Is George on the feeds? Is he staying with the Dani group or is he alone? What reaction has he had to it all, do you know?
It all seemed to hit Janelle tonight...the house stress and suddenly waking up to the Mean Girl's routine. But how can Janelle still be that person, one who is almost innocent in her game play. Is she too self absorbed to see others or does she only see what others are willing to let her know? I think I am encouraged that she hasn't lost that trusting nature, even after living two summers in BB. I thought the Maggie months would have turned her heart hard and opened her eyes to at least the possibility that some in the world don't want her to succeed.
How can a player as strong as she is, be so untuned into what is going on around her? I noticed that while she and her beefcake Howie practiced trivia and memory games for the comps, that the Woogies were talking various scenarios of who to put up and get rid of and who to coax into doing it the Woogie Way.
Janelle's game plan was more straight forward. Her alliance would win comps and that would lead to winning the game. Woogies were playing the people instead of the comps. Janelle let people know when she didn't like them (the war comment to Danielle) while Will said all the right things and no one knew what he was really thinking.
As you can tell, I don't have any answers or even a good way to wind up this comment. These are just some thoughts that are floating around in my head as I try to figure out people and how they live their lives.
That is really why I watch BB and other reality shows anyway. Bottom line. To watch people and try to understand.
Will was a sweety and appeared to be sincere in his words to calm Janelle. But, what if she believes him and he was really just being Will...won't that just reinforce her feelings of loss and betrayal.
Sue
is WillUnrivaledInAnnalsOfRealityTVHistory Will's brother???
may i add somethin, what if right when that happens, and woogie is on the block, Julie comes in and says, "sorry mike, because you told all about the cdt, you have forfeited your right to use that, lol leaving them to choose one or the other, now thats funny
WillUnrivaledInAnnalsOfRealityTVHistory,
interesting strategy.
but i believe boogs can use his "special power" anytime within the next 2 or 3 weeks right? wouldn't it be smarter to hold on to it in case he or will doesn't win the next hoh?
Anon @1:27--
That scenario is definitely my favorite! It would be priceless.
Sue - George is around. No one is being mean to him. He cooked a bit. Kind of same old. He's been an outsider all along. Some are taling now and then to him.
As for Will, I think some of the compassion may be sincere. For the last several days, he's been quite pro-Janelle at times while talking with Mike. He wanted James out before Janelle. I think he had thoughts of being in the final three or four with her.
ITs not 3 weeks, its 3 evictions, two of which already occurred
This is Mike's last chance, and he already is HOH, so I don't see how it will do him any good unless that scheme mentioned above happens. It's a GREAT idea, but HIGHLY unlikely, IMO
Wow, what a turn of events! I can't believe George put Howie, the only person who truly befriended him, on the block! I feel shell-shocked.
I think Mike Boogie may be more evil than James, and I never tho't I'd say THAT! He's just riding Will's coat-tails. He has no personality of his own - in or out of the house. That "fat kid" grabbed on to "Mr. Popularity" and is re-living his teenage years!
I feel better now.
SusanB
There have been two evictions since Boogie won the Coup. He can only use it in the next eviction, presumably next Thursday night.
I don't understand why Mike didn't throw this HOH. He just disqualified himself from winning NEXT week when he has no power then.
Thanks for answering my question Jackie. I've thought Will had a tone of protection in his voice when he talks to Janelle, but, you know..its Will. I haven't been able to get a true read on it. Good to hear your thoughts.
I think Will mentioned 'power hungry' and Boogie in the same sentence tonight. Probably was joking, but that is the Boogie I remember from the past season. I think Boogie may really believe he is a master player in the BB All Star House, instead of being Will's lacky. Mr. Self Important.
Thanks, Sue
I dont believe they ever said Boogie couldn't tell anyone what the power was...would probably be in his best interests not to, but they said no one will know about it. I take this to mean, BB won't tell them what the power is. But the holder can do what they chose to do with it. '
also I do believe they said he had it for 3 weeks, not 3 nominations.
The house seems very sad without howie...but it all seems to be picking up some now.
And I'm sorry...but Janelle needs to get over it, it is a game. Yes i do feel sorry for her, it is a hard emotional game. I would be talking crap about the people in the house too if I was stuck in the same house with that many different people. It's what all reality tv shows are...
I honestly like them all but CG and Erika...I would be happy with any of the remaning ones winning
Kansas..
You're right. That was a waste of a week of safety.
I'm with anonymous 12:58 AM
"personwithreallylongname" has come up with a brillant premise. So brillant in fact, and so full of superlatives referring to Dr Will that I feel certain that the poster is the evil Dr Delicious himself. Picture it, somewhere inside the house tonight Dr Mindmeld turns his psychological raygun on some unsuspecting newbie female BB crew member. He convinces her to not only lend him a laptop just long enough to email his sick mother, she also feels certain she is the one who got the call from the hospital. Bang, Dr Smoke & Mirrors is online and posting on this very blog.
Now, if we could just get him to channel his powers for good. Imagine sending him to the Middle East as an Ambassador. He could get all sides to lay down their arms, live happily ever after, and make everyone involved think it was their idea. How 'bout it "he-whose-name-is-too-long-to-type?
Lili
Like everyon else I am astonished that HOWIE is gone. I understand that it is a game, but we all have our favorites, and right now, as it has always been, it is GO JANEY!! Mike Boogy is an ass holding onto his mother's (Will's) apron strings. He was, I think, the last in the viewers choice and I think he is only there because CBS gave into the Dr's demands. I very much dislike him. Roger
It is so sad right now on the feeds. Janelle cannot stop crying and she is talking about suicide.
( there is something else going on besides Howie leaving obviously). At first, she was crying about Howie but as time goes on, looks like something more is going on for Janelle to talk about wanting to Voluntarily Quit..Holy Cow!
( I am hoping it is a temporary anxiety attack and with some sleep and rest, and talking to BB medical staff, she is Ok ). Even if I would not like a houseguest, I worry about anyone who is in the state Janie is in right now.
James and Will are trying to calm her down and get her to see the BB doctor.
Caroline. PS My concern could come from my training/experience in psychology but anyone even talking about suicide should see a doctor or therapist ASAP...for some intervention.
But that is probably from my training. Janie said it is not about the game, so I wonder if perhaps she is struggling with other issues..she is saying she may have a fever...illness can cause depression or severe fatigue can as well. Oh well, enough of my diagnosis by internet...that is wrong of me..forgive me..I got carried away..
Janie having a crying jag gets me crying. This show takes my mind off the fact my son is in Iraq and my mother died last year.
TV and reading help me not to focus on the War all the time and obsess about that.
But with Janie sinking into a depression ( hope it is fleeting and she is just overly tired and sad )....it gets me crying to see her crying..
Sheila.
After Danielle, Ericka, etc. cheered when she was eliminated from HOH, and with Howie gone, Janelle probably feels very much alone. That would get anyone down. I, too, hope she's okay.
SusanB
I am pleased that Dr. Will is a good doctor and recognizes that talking about suicide is nothing to joke about. I used to tell my patients " suicide is not something to even discuss or think about, not an option". I felt a bond with Will ( briefly I am sure) as his training is kicking in as he is keeping her talking about other things and off that subject. Good job Will! ( and I normally cannot stand Chilltown at all)
Caroline
I am so disappointed in chicken George for nomianting Howie. What a stupid move!! Howie would have helped him! It seems like season 6 lost last year and this year because of their trust in people. They are good players, but they have hearts too. This legion of doom alliance is wicked! I can't wait to see them turn on each other.
This is the saddest of all of the comments pages so far, ya'll. I am getting depressed myself. I cannot believe Howie is out and that George of all people put him up. I guess he is scared of everyone else. I also liked him. I still do, but I just don't get it. I feel really badly for Janelle. She has always been pretty straight up about this game, plaything the game, but not nasty. I am really disappointed in Danelle. She is older and a wife and mother, so she has probably gone through a few more life experiences, other than George, than the rest of them, and she is setting a terrible example. I don't know how old her children are, but I know that I have an 11 year old and a 13 year old and if I was acting exactly like her, I would be horrified to have my children see me act that way. There is playing a game and then there is being mean and spiteful and vendictive. I really can't believe all of this is going on. I do hope Will is being sincere with Janey because she doesn't deserve anymore deception and I hope she is okay. I will definitely miss the almighty Jedi! Vivian
P.S. Loved the comment from whomever said something about Boogey holding onto his mother's apron strings (Will). That made me lol.
Thanks Jackie, once again, don't know how you keep up with all of this, but am so glad you do.
I find it so odd that all of sudden WOOGIE have compassion when Janelle has treated Danielle like shit. I think she's acting like a spoiled brat right now. You win some, you lose some, deal with it. SO NOT the Janelle from last season.
Sorry to disagree, anon 3:40; but I don't think Janelle has treated Danielle badly at all. Where do you get that? it IS a game, after all, as Dani is noted for saying.
I do agree with everyone about Mike Boogie, though. Without Will, he'd be gone. Or he wouldn't have been there in the first place. At least Will, like him or hate him, is good for entertainment.
SusanB
Too many people pull out the 'high and mighty' act. That act basically places you on a pedestal and some of the 'evil' big brother players beneath you. I'm sorry, but when was the last time you were in Big Brother competing for $500k? Never. Attitudes change depending on situations, surely you went over this in psychology. My favorite case is the stanford prison experiment. Now that I have defended the actions of the houseguests....
I'd like to see Dani or James leave, hopefully it happens.
Anon 5:13: I don't understand what you're talking about at all. It didn't make sense to me. (And it sounds a little condescending.)
Anyway, I agree with you about James and Danielle going.
SusanB
I am in agreement with SusanB about what anon 5:13 said. I am not bashing anyone who is writing in, really I am not, but I did not understand it and it did sound a bit condescending. I do agree, however that either Danielle or James, or both (Hah) should go next. I am still perplexed how Dani can act that way knowing her children are watching possibly or will see it one day. $500,000 or not guys, I just could not set that kind of example for my children and I do think mine would be truly disappointed in me and lose respect for me. Just my opinion. Vivian
Howie's the only man I know who could talk about boobies and "f-this" and "f-that" and still have women defending him...even though he WAS joking MOST of the time...he was still a chauvinist. I strongly disliked his objectification of women and his "sex drive on overdrive" persona. Public masturbation...come on! And people are laughing!! What if people at your work went into a store room closet to "jack shack" it? He couldn't even control himself for 30 days!!! Come on! I can't believe that everyone only sees Howie as "Jedi" Howie and not the pervert that he really was. IMHO or IMNSHO.
I still don't understand why CG put Howie up!!
Whoever said Janelle is acting like a spoiled brat hit the nail on the head. She is shallow and selfish, don't understand why she has so many fans. Her game play has stunk as well. I hope Boogie backdoors her this week, then CT can reign supreme since Howie is also gone (thankfully!).
The behavior of everyone in that house, with no exclusions, is a disgrace. One can only hope it's due to the frustration of the game and their cooped up situation and that the hgs are NOT like that outside of the game. As for Danielle and Janelle, they're BOTH equally guilty of being nasty to each other. I don't understand the feeling by some that one form of being mean is any better than another. But of course we all put a spin on it so that we can feel better about our favorite player.
Janelle is crying because she's now alone in the house and her chance of the game going her way, with her and Howie being in the final two, is over . I feel bad for her but isn't the point of the game TO BE ALONE IN THE HOUSE?! Get over it Janelle..it's one more out of the way to win the big bucks. That being said, I hope Will or Danielle wins!!!!
Mags25
Well, that started my day off sad....Howie gone??!! I can't believe it!
Jackie you have the best posters! They are smart and have opinions that add to the discussion. I don't find that on other boards. Those comments add so much to the game. I see the "game" going on but add in the layers of personality differences, the maturity levels, the stories the hgs tell about themselves from outside the house and we can watch Life from a safe distance. "It" is a game, but the people are real.
Janelle was hit with a lot at one time yesterday. A pie (it sounds like, but I'm not sure about that), humiliation, taunts, loosing her support system of the Big Jedi...just about everything crumbled, on top of the stress of living in the house for the last weeks. Everything she has done since coming into the house must have been giving her deja vu, also, from the similaries of last year. She talked one day of her time after last year making her sort of shut down from things (I don't remember her exact words and they aren't important any way, just that when something sad happens and something reminds us of that sadness, the the New Sadness becomes larger) I think that is what happened last night. Janelle had no control over anything that was done or said, including Howie's rant..which may have been very ugly...and the eviction. One sentence I heard from either Will or James last night was that they told her Howie and Kaysar had other alliances besides her. How difficult that would have been for her to hear. Especially in the climate of doubting herself already. Janelle is an 'in your face' person, attack the enemy, let them know where they stand. I would guess, even with evidence to the contrary, that she still thinks the rest of the world prefers things that way, too. So imagine her surprise when that belief was torn away. Will sounds kind but is scary too. That technique is used in brainwashing.
And Lili, great comment. I think Will is the ultimate Spin Doctor. I think he might be aware that he has cheapened himself and his professional reputation by being on a TV show and outing his gift of manipulation. But, I'm guessing he'll be able to talk himself out of any bad press that comes his way.
I also hope that the last 24 hours has led Janelle through the darkness into that light of rejuvenation and rededication. She doesn't have to win, she already made the extra money they have all talked about getting in Sequester. She'll begin to see all that and get herself together and try to play the game to the end.
Thank you Jackie, Sue
Chicken George is just that!!!"CHICKEN"!!!!!!
I used to like the Chicken Man and thought he was very smart, NOT ANYMORE
BSD
Oh My! I am suffering serious BB withdrawals of having no TV and TIVO.
I can't believe all that have happened in the last few days. Howie, howie I will miss him -- that is so surprising! Boogie as HoH interesting.
Wow George too! I think he played well.
Thanks again Jackie for having this blog.
Maria
If Janelle goes, I'm done because I really can't stand anyone else in the house. I hate CG for what he did to Howie. Will could be OK if he takes care of Janie. I still haven't gotten over the fact that WE voted for Janelle for prom queen and she got ZILCH! Basically, everyone in the house had the opportunity to an advanage EXCEPT Janelle! I am also so mad at Mike Boogie telling people about the CDT! That alone could be the reason CG was bullied into putting Howie up and thus changing the entire outcome of this game! NOT FAIR! CBS should bring back Howie before it airs on Sunday!
That would be stupid if they brought Howie back. It's part of the game it's not fair but it is what it is. Some people are getting way to emotional over a reality show.
Howie lasted longer than he should. He was nothing but a floater too. Janelle carried him under her wings.
I am also sad that Howie is gone. How do you email cbs about Boogie telling he won the Coup? And also can someone please tell me how to cancel the live feed. I can't take it anymore. I have looked everywhere. Thanks. Also, about Danielle, if I was aware that my children were watching me on TV I sure wouldn't want them to see me lie to people's faces and out my friends, especially when her vote wouldn't have saved Marcellas but at least she would have kept her dignity. She's awful.
I am very surprised that Janelle has so many backers. Its kinda scary to think we live in a world that thinks her attitude is acceptable. I know that they all lie, however they are not all laying in there room saying poor me! She lies and only looks out for herself. Don't feel sorry for her. She is the reason that her alliance broke up, she was only looking out for herself and not her alliance. I think it is kinda funny that she is getting what she has dealt out. I wouldn't feel sorry for her, has she felt sorry for anyone else! Wasn't she the one that said if you start war you better finish it!
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