As the houseguests sleep, I thought it would be interesting to pick up and run with something commenter Barbwire came up with on a previous entry here.
In thinking about Jameka and Amber's game strategy or lack there of, she wondered about past winners of the show and whether some flew under the radar. I'm offering my take here and would like to open the discussion floor for your thoughts. Does Amber really have a strategy? Jameka? If either wins, will it be a purely under the radar win? How about Zach? Has a lack of strategy won the game before?
Here's my take on the previous winners:
Season 1 Winner: Eddie McGee didn't play under the radar, but no one really had a plan that year.
Season 2 Winner: Will Kirby, didn't play under the radar yet threw every comp, his strategy was to lie and tell them he was lying. Puppetmaster and probably my favorite all-time houseguest.
Season 3 Winner: Lisa Donahue - now, I think she played a bit under the radar. Not my favorite player, nowhere near it. She was strong at times in comps.
Season 4 Winner: Jun Song, had a reputation for playing under the radar but I think she actually had a strategy and was a bit sneaky. I think she was pretty game-smart and used others (especially Jee) to her advantage.
Season 5 Winner: Drew Daniel, not the strongest strategist by a long shot. Joined an alliance and was likable. I think I'd put him in the flew somewhat under the radar camp.
Season 6 Winner: Maggie Ausburn, definitely didn't fly under the radar, but instead had others do all of her dirty work for her. In my opinion, a bit of puppetmaster although certainly not as entertaining for me as was Will Kirby.
Season 7 Winner: Mike "Boogie" Malin, didn't fly under the radar but instead rode on Will Kirby's coattails throughout the season. I was NOT happy to see him win, not at all.
Here's my take on those left in the house right now and their strategies:
Amber: Has no real strategy, had a vision she'd win, thinks she's good and nice, thus worthy of winning. She's playing under the radar, but her tears and whining bring her to the forefront -- that's not strategy, though.
Jameka: Nice and good person, make friends with all and win. Under the radar.
Daniele: Strong in comps, I think her original strategy was to get along well with people, win comps. Immaturity issues, her father in the house, and the personalities of others have affected her strategy. A change to super-alliance with Dad and win at the end because they like her better.
Dick: Studied the game and often says he wants to emulate Will Kirby. Alas, his own personality does him in. Change in strategy to work with Daniele. He'll be thrilled if she wins, but is also thinking about his own position in the house. Cooks, cleans, makes himself useful even in rant stages.
Jessica: Under the radar, nice, but uses Eric and others to do her dirty work for her, thus still coming up in favor of others. Decent people skills and she's using them. Decent in comps. I do think her strategy is a bit under the radar when compared with others in the house, but a stronger player than Amber or Jameka. She actually tries to think ahead in the game.
Zach: Almost under the radar, but his strategy is showing more as the numbers in the house dwindle. He puts himself in the position of siding with the HOH each week promising to vote their way in an effort to keep the spotlight off himself. He listens and picks up on everything. He would have been more successful with different housemates. I could see him and Roddy teaming up, etc. Zach puts himself in the position where he never offends anyone by nominating them, never wins any comps. Maybe he can't win comps because he did really want to save his own butt with the POV this week.
Eric: He's the Big Brother scholar, but his strategy has had to change due to America's Player. If he were at his own devices, I think he could have every move planned out ahead. Unfortunately for him, the AP has thrown him some curve balls. I think he's handled the cover-up with the stray votes and such better than I ever could. I'd actually like to see how he'd play the game on his own. I think he could very well be the best strategist in the house if not for the AP intervention.
Your thoughts?
44 comments:
I have read several comments about AP and Eric sucking. AP has made a big impact on this game. The AP vote caused spection and doubt on several players, which lead to thier evection. Dustin eveiction was all because of AP. That was a turning point in the game and in Eric thought process. I personally think that D&D and E&J would have eventally teamed up anyway. because before the false votes and banner Dick and Eric were close. Eric proved his lastability when he survived the banner. This is not a game of truth and honesty, it is a game to win 500 thou. While Eric does have a fowl mouth and can say vile things, all of the house guest have. At least he is making an effort to play the game, he is very prusading when it comes to the votes. All and all he has done a good job. Imagine Amber tring to pull off AP.. O-Tay off my high horse on Eric now..
MB
MB - AP didn't cause the Dustin eviction, Zach came up with that idea before Eric got the AP vote. America wanted Dustin to get nominated and it didn't happen, then Dustin volunteered to go up against Dick when he won POV. That's when Zach mentioned to Jessica that they should vote him out. Then Eric got the AP vote, put the cherry on the sundae and Dustin was sent to sequester.
Jackie - to be honest, I don't even remember most of the past winners. Lisa who??? I started watching about 1/2 way through season 2 so I remember some of Will and of course I loved him last year. I have very short term memories when it comes to reality shows. I couldn't tell you who won on Survivor just this last season. I think I may have sometimers disease :-)
Part of me thinks that perhaps its hard for Jameka to have too much of a strategy since she can't compete for HOH.
Jameka losing her HOH capabilities is a metaphor for her game play. It has helped her without her actually doing anything. She is a vote that can't nominate...that is all the others see her as. I think the only way a floater could win this year is by default. In other words if people 'refuse to vote' for a player, and a floater is on the block, they win...by default. I guess the money would be be as green, but..., maybe they would go down in history with an asterik by their name. Thanks Jackie. Sue
Okay Jackie, Here's my two cents:
Season 1 - I think the Eddie win was clearly a sympathy win due to his handicap. Didn't America vote for the winner the first year?
Season 2 - Dr. Will's win was total strategy. He lied the entire time and let them know he was lying, but yet he was still very likable. Much more likable than Nicole (was that her name?).
Season 3 - In my opinion, Lisa only won because they showed the jury the Diary Room sessions and they saw what Danielle was really thinking, because otherwise, she had them all fooled. Danielle would have won easily if they hadn't seen those DR sessions! Didn't they stop showing the DR sessions after that season?
Season 4 - Jun was not under the radar at all. She made promises left and right and then broke them left and right. She alligned with Allison at the right time and they took it to the end. She was the lesser of two evils. Remember how disgusted the jury was with the both of them. No one even congratulated her!
Season 5 - Drew was just very likable and managed to make it to the final 2 without royally screwing anybody. Who was he in final 2 with? Was it Cowboy?
Season 6 - Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. Her strategy was to let the other nerd herders take the hits for her. It worked really well. She deserved the win more than Ivette, although Janelle was the winner in my book.
Season 7 - Mike "Boogie" let Dr. Will secure the win for him. He strung Erika along shamelessly and took her to final 2 knowing no one had any respect left for her. Again, in my book Janelle was the true winner.
Season 8 - I don't see any real strategy among any of these people. They are all completely paranoid and change alliances with every gust of wind. I think the final two will either be D&D or E&J. Amber, Jameka and Zach are all collateral damage.
Rbennie
People have commented many times about Jessica being a fairly nice player/HOH etc. I think much of it stems from the fact that she has never endured attacks from Dick.
Dick has said to Dani that he is sparing Jess so that Dani can have somebody in the house for her if Dick goes.
My point: I would really like to see what kind of shape Jess would be in if she had had to deal with one tenth of what Jen did.
It bugs me that Jess is so smug about never being attacked by Dick. Like she thinks it's because she is cute and blond or something. When in reality it is purely strategy on Dick's part.
Hi everyone!
I was also intrigued when Barbwire posed the question...
First, for the current season:
Amber & Jameka appear to have arrived at the house with NO strategy or game. I am not certain that either are wise enough to have thought that far ahead. It appears that they both apply the concept of "what is fair" to life, and most of us are completely aware that life just isn't always fair. ;)
Jessica is a sly little minx. I am not certain she came in with much strategy, as she certainly appeared to be a total airhead (and a bit vicious) in the beginning. My opinion is that her strategy has developed as the game progresses. I am curious how things may have played out if Carol had remained in the house a bit longer.
Dani has game, but not much personality. She really is a brat.
Dick has game, but too much personality. He has been consistently annoying, though, which may play to his benefit as the game moves forward. There will be little memory of Dick doing anything new that is reprehensible or makes the other players mad, as he has done it all along, making the new and unexpected insults and offenses that much more memorable.
Zach was under the radar, but his sucking up to every HOH has made him a joke with a target on his back. How can you trust him?
Eric has game, although I am not sure that I would have liked him as a player even without AP. He may have been a strong competitor that I loved to hate.
I agree with Jackie regarding the previous winners. I am uncertain that Maggie really had any strategy, but just fell into her role and played it out. She is probably my least favorite winner. Or at least ties with Mike Boogie. Those were two heartbreaking wins for me. I did not like them as people, as players, or as strategists.
One thing I have been curious about since the beginning is that it appeared that Dick and Dani each knew that the other would be in the house. They both made comments early on about how "they never thought it would be this hard", and someone commented that Dick needed to sign a release for Dani to get in the house. Any thoughts?
Season 1 - I liked Eddie from the beginning and was glad he won. The game was different, but he did play it, so I don't think you could say he flew under the radar.
Season 2 - so much fun watching Will play the game and win
Season 3 - Lisa was strong in the comps when it counted, but flew under the radar most of the time. She remained likable, which I guess is a strategy some years....when the players dislike each other intensely, it's an art to be someone everyone likes.
Season 4 - Jun played the game well, using her cooking skills and her ex boyfriend. She was pretty observant and sharp. I was hoping she would win over Allison, though by the end I didn't like a lot of what Jun said or her attitude. She and Allison went over the top with comments.
Season 5 - Drew flew under the radar and used Diane and Cowboy. He was a real cutie though.
Season 6 - The house was divided in two, and it came down to a numbers game....eliminate a side or be eliminated. Maggie's side won. Maggie was able to garner her side's favor by being friends with Eric, who was eliminated, but who Ivette and Maggie adored, and by being the most thoughtful, (not emotional) of the women on her side. When she spoke, they listened, and so they did do the dirty work. It was luck and the lesser of two evils. UGH! What a season!
Season 7 - Will played an excellent game. Will brought Boogie right to the winner's circle. No way did Boogie play a good game, or even a game, except for leading on Erica, which was a strategy although it was so mean-spirited that you couldn't congratulate him on it.
Oh Janelle, why didn't you wake up? You could have had it.
Please please please.... Make the "ChillTown Gone Bad" video go away! I keep bouncing directly to that area and I am so tired of it! Boogie makes me want to hurl!
I got hooked on Big Brother in season 2. What a great cast to garner my interest. Like Orkmommy, I don't remember the winner of season 3, and quite honestly , I don't remember much of that season at all.
My feeling is that will be the way I remember this season's cast - very forgettable.
I was trying to remember some of my favorite houseguests from past seasons. Nicole in season 2, Marcellas from 3 ( he's the only thing I can remember, maybe that's why he's my favorite???), Jack from season 4, Drew and Jennifer and Jennifer from season 5, and believe it or not, I liked Maggie and Kaysar both - from season 6. My all time fave will be Dr. Will - he was so much fun to watch.
jl
I'm glad seveal of you mentioned the show being pushed back into the wee hours by football in some locales. I just checked the local CBS affiliate and they are showing the Packer game at 7 p.m., and then plan to rebroadcast it at 12:30.m. I am a Packer fan, but airing a preseason game twice on the same evening??? I'll have to wait until 12:30 a.m. Saturday to see Thursday's show. So Jackie, even if you can't recap the show until Friday p.m., it'll still be news to some of us. :)
Prevost
i, too tend to forget the people after the show is over, until someone mentions their name, & then i think "oh, yea, i remember them" - i really dislike amber, i think she has some personality issues that rub me the wrong way - but the season with maggie, was that whole cappie, or caddie, or chippie, or whatever his name was, & the way the nerd herd adored him, & still tried to play the game the way he would have wanted !! OMG, that makes me want to hurl !!
I'm not sure I've ever heard my mom use the word "hurl". I didn't even know she knew it! :-)
just checked our local listing, and it looks like the show's on as scheduled here in Portland.
Nana, if it's showing at 1:30 AM in Tacoma, remember, we're only a couple hours away. You could come on down, watch the show, then still be back home and snuggled in your bed before the east coast would see it! :)
Thanks, barbwire for getting the comments started about past winners. My memory is so short I have trouble remembering what's going on this season!
Talking about flying under the radar, I guess there's something to be said for being a "strong" player with a target on your back and being able to dodge the bullet. Some would look at that as being a good game player.
As for me, I'd rather stay out of the line of fire for as long as I could. I'd try to make friends, listen a lot and plan my strategy as I went, depending on what's going on in the house.
So, would that make me a floater, or someone who was flying under the radar? Is there a difference? And if I was playing like this, why wouldn't I deserve to win as much as someone who's involved in conflicts and manages to stay in anyway?
Just wondering, 'cause I'd never make it in there to find out for myself - nor do I think I'd want to!!
PDX Granny
i keep going directly to the chilltown video, too. no thank you. i came in on season four, therefore got my first look at danielle, boogie, and will in season 7. i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone thinks highly of will at all. he makes my skin crawl. and boogie didn't win all stars...will won it and gave it to boogie. boogie makes my skin crawl, too. they remind me of someone who would gladly admit to being a pimp if it made them money and was legal. i don't think lack of ethics automatically makes someone the best player. the best players are those who play a good game and have ethics. jun and allison had no ethics. they're also both pigs, IMO. i would have been glad to see drew or cowboy win. i also did not watch season 6, but saw lots of them in action in season 7. not sure of janelle's ethics, but that girl can play and doesn't hide it.
this group...jameka is the only one i think i would like outside the house. i'd like to see her win, but don't see it happening. out of dick/daniele/jessica/eric i would like to see eric win only because i think he's had the most difficult game of all to play.
I agree with MB that it was Eric and the influence of the AP that really put the evict Dustin plan in action. Not much consideration is usually given to what Zach thinks!
LOL Barbwire...that's why when I commented on that season, I called him Eric - I could never bring myself to call him cappie ewwww...hurl.
I have been reading your blog for a couple of years now (though I never have commented).Thought I would mention that so far it shows Big Brother at it's regular time slot on my Comcast DVR on Thursday. Whether or not that will change, I don't know (I'm also on the east coast, Delaware). If ot is on, I might post a spoiler or two.
There are legends to the game, too. Those who didn't win, but we remember them. I, too, have trouble with names some times. And spelling of the names I do remember. I usually call them 'Gay Guy Who Gave Up The Veto' (Marcellas?) Nakomis/Jennifer 'creator of back door when backdooring was smart', Then there are the not so legend worthy, but memorable: Hairy Back Gay Guy (Bunky?) Girl Who Liked Cheese (Amy) Girl of many hair colors who wanted to hook up with every guy in the house (1st season?) Girl Who Used Enemy's toothbrush to clean toilet (have no idea of name) Thanks for the memories of BB Past. Sue
These guys are strategic lightweights, even Eric. They'd be eaten alive by any of the past BB winners, with possible exception of Drew or Lisa. Eric only looks like a strategic mastermind because everyone else sucks so bad at it.
It wasn't until you broke down the seasons that it occurred to me that Jessica's play so far is a lot like Maggie's, in the not getting hands dirty part. Yikes. I mean, I like her much better than Maggie, but it's similar.
For me, right up there with Will was Dani of BB3 (not so much in All Stars, when she lost it ringing that doorbell, hee hee). If you wanted ANYTHING to happen in BB3, talk to Dani, and she'd make it happen. It was amazing to watch.
Sissy, I am also in DE. and have not seen anything about Thursday night being preempted, So I was thinking about posting a few spoilers of my own. MB
Hey Jackie - I'm in the "non preempted" group too. How bout you make a post and those of us watching it live can update those of you who are stuck with football. We've all gotta stick together here!!
Hey Kids!!
You can watch the show on the internet live! I gave Nana in the NW the link and she watches it with us East/Central peeps
Here it is:
http://www.5tags.com/bb/
Anyone see Eric finally kiss Jessica? It looked like he was kissing a corpse! At first I thought it was sweet, but now it seems like either she wasn't into it because she's not into him, or wasn't into it because of cameras.
I pretty much agree with your assessment of each player. Hard to say who will win at this point, probably not one of the hardcore players though.
Questions:
1) Why are they not allowed to have good cutlery? Is it from back in season 3 when we had the knife incident?
2) Why is the public not allowed to know the game rules?
3) Banner planes - don't they have a no-fly zone over the house? How would a plane have slipped through?
Thought on PO-10:
As this show normally airs on Wednesday, could they have just squared off to see who played FIRST? As in perhaps they both had a shot at some winnings? All in the name of PR of course.
Kelly in MI
Plaidchick--thanks for posting that link again---someone from the previous post asked about it.
Sissy--welcome to our "family" the more the merrier. You must give us stuck with football some spoilers....we count on it!!
Jayne--Jackie says the Boogie video will go away soon...if not we may have to call Dr. Will to come remove it!!! LOL
Plaidchick(and anyone else who SAW the kiss) tell me more...I read Joker's and it sounded like Jess was uncomfortable yet she told Eric he was a good kisser. It also sounded like she wanted to go to sleep but he wouldn't shut up. I'm going to check out Youtube and see if there is a video
Must go I just heard and Amber Alert on the radio about a little boy missing in my close neighborhood--I need to go online and find out more details.....
Kelly in MI:
1: I guess they consider knives a weapon, and I do think there was an incident, just don't know what
2: The public wants to see the rule book, but since BB changes the rules as they please, we're not going to see it
3: There is no "no fly zone" over CBS studios, it shaped the way season 2 went (didn't watch it) so they have the BB interns watching out for banner planes and when they see one coming there is a lockdown-- the reason why this banner plane got in a few weeks ago was because who ever ordered the plane was brillant enough to do it during an enduance contest. Now during outside HoH competitions there is a tarp overhead so the HG's can't see anything.
Jackie, an excellent overall assessment...I would say that Jun was much more of a strategist than you feel she was, however. I thought that she was a genius, and used Jee perfectly and intentionally--AND, he was on-board (foolishly). She was easily the second-best player ever, IMHO.
Nana in the NW,
what I saw via YouTube was not a clear picture, and Jessica never moved during the kiss. She did look very uncomfortable. She told him he was a good kisser, but who knows.
Sissy and mb... I'm originally from DE and still have family there. From Dover area. Where are you from?
My best friend is "Sissy" to my grandchildren and of course my initials are also mb.
Just coincidence.
Just wondering... If they show the noms and the veto comp tonight then we will have a way to vote on what AP does with the veto....
Please tell me someone at CBS thought of that too so we can tell Eric to veto one of the noms and get D or D on the backdoor block...
Wishful thinking I am sure... but something to ponder..
I was not a big watcher many seasons but did watch 3 4 and 7 and of course now I am obsessed...
I have to be honest I am a HUGE fan of ChillTown and was quite happy with the Boggie win as Will had won already... I guess I am the only one out there...
I am game for Jess to take it all or Eric.... anyone but D or D would be fine with me!
Heather in Boca
plaidchick:
1) The incident was early on in the game...like first few days or first week. Someone got a little temper flare and threatened one of the female HG with a knife, actually held it up. I think he was instantly evicted. Memory is failing, it was 5 years ago.
2) Sounds like they change rules to suit their needs as the game goes each season. Sounds shady. But then, the "reality" of reality TV is shady.
3) In one of the early seasons they did have a no-fly zone enforced. I think after season 2 or 3. It was giving away too many details and trashing the integrity of the game, ha, a game with very little integrity. Maybe they couldn't keep it enforced. Season 1 they would sit and watch them go like crazy. It did cause one or two evictions. But the public voted back then too.
New question:
Are they allowed to talk game and strategy in sequester?
Kelly in MI
Season 2 Justin S in week two held a knife to Krista and asked,
"Would you get mad if I killed you? Evicted immediately! Both were drunk...
Jayne said...
i keep going directly to the chilltown video, too. no thank you.
How much longer are we going to have to put up with the Chill Town video? Is there any way to delete it?
I started watching BB during season three or four. I have been hooked since. I found Jackie's blog three years ago and have been hooked on it since. Great job, Jackie.
I was not a Will fan, could not stand Allison, Jun, Boogie and his pasty (Erica) who was made a fool on national TV.
As for this year, I have no favorite. I can't stand most of the players.
Oops Krista's throat see above
BB on here 130am Thurs BOO HISS
If you want a good laugh bo to YouTube and watch the videos of Jess/Eric kissing!!! LOL He reminds of being in junior high school and kissing for the first time....kiss, kiss,kiss...."Was that alright?? Do I have to wait for the next kiss??"
Eric really needs to know when to SHUT UP! And Jess...she could have at least put her arm around him!! I don't know if she was really uncomfortable with having it aired, was tired, or just not really into him. I think tonight will give us more insight because we know Eric will be all over her tonight--
like that country song---
"I like it, I love it, I want some more of it"--go to blue water...no singing!!
What is this video that everyone is talking about??
MMM
The game in Rochester is being shown on ABC for some reason and on CBS in Syracuse. Through cable, we get both cities channels, so I can still watch it at normal time here. Thank Goodness! But with all these different scheduled showings all over the country, won't the AP vote be affected for a lot of people?
Meb,
m I'm from the Wilmington area in Delaware. Born, raised and probably will die here!! Unless I win the powerball, then we may move. Hubby's family is close to the Dover area though.
MEB and Sissy,
It is official there is 3 of us, enough to Start a BBA chapter in delaware( Big brother anonymous). LOL I am in Newark.
MB
delee, thank you.
Kelly in MI
Season #1 Eddie flew under the radar. I would have like for Josh to win, he played hard and was liked. I loved his dancing and that smile! I took a liking to Brittany. I was always interested in what she would wear or what color or style her hair would be. I thought Karen brought in too much of her outside life. And then, there was "Chicken George" and the so called "voting scam".
#2 Many tried to outwit the next one. Will played under the radar, however his strategy of lying and telling the HG he was was great. Nicole managed to be runner up after being put up so much in the beginning. Having alcohol in the house lead to Justin being expelled for the knife incident with Krista. Once again there was a hard body in the house, Hardy. He was too shy to go too far. Will's lying still was a good payout for him in the end, winning season #2
#3 There really was no strategy I felt in this season. Love blossomed in the house with Lisa and Eric, but did not spill over in the real world. Danielle lost a close family member while she was in the house. Amy ate cheese non-stop. Who could forget Mike/Boogie proposed to Krista during the final episode?
#4 This was the season of the exes. IMO there was not too much strategy, but a lot of bad mouthing and back stabbing going on. I was hoping to see Jack bring more of his FBI traits out and team up with Justin, Alison's ex. Jun used Jee to go far and in the end it paid off for her, she won. Alison was runner up. The F2 were IMO the most disliked winners.
#5 Back dooring people became famous by Jennifer AKA:Nakomis. It was a season were long lost brother & sisters united and the game had a twist with the twin sisters, Adria and Natalie. The horseman Club was formed. Drew had no strategy but he was the so liked and he won. Cowboy rode his horse into the F2.
#6 It seemed like it was the season where teams were formed and let's not forget it was the season we were entertained by Howie holding the "Jedi Power" and even stowed Janelle into becoming "Jedi Janey". Cappy was born and Ivette held her captain in high regards. We almost seen a showdown between Howie and Cappy. Kaysar IMO was the brains of this show. Maggie was the winner and was always flying under the radar and able to get others to do her dirty work. Ivette was runner up.
#7 Haven't we seen these players before? It turned out to be a season that past player were given another chance to outsmart, outwit, and outplay some of the former season's BB HG. Some were hoping there would be something between Dr. Will and Janelle. Does Will still have his girlfriend he always referred to in the game? As Jackie said in her post, Mike/Boogie rode the coattail of Will. Mike had no strategy, but he won the game. Will sat next to him letting his buddy Mike take home the cash.
And this brings us to season #8. With who is left in the game, IMO it looks like Dick is the only one that may have some strategy happening. He knows how to pull in the others to play the game the way he would like it to be played. Daniele is strong in the comps, however she is getting farther by having her father in the game. Jen made BB history by going against the rules and in the end it cost her. Hopefully CBS will take a hint a abolish having a AP in the future. I am predicting it will be Eric and Jessica battling Dick and Daniele in the F4. I think it may be Dick and Eric in the F2.
There is a recap of the seasons. I hope it jars the memory of the past seasons and a few more names will come to mind.
I am addicting to BB! (sorry for typo's)
I agree with you on the past winners.I so did not like maggie at all. She was hateful and as a nurse her mouth said all the wrong things for my tastes.
I think Amber is a crakcpot for sure. Did anyone else notice how she told Jamica right after Jessica won that she prayed to God that jessica would win and not herself? Whatever! She also cracks me up when she is praying how she tells God; Bless you God!She is also very conceited. She told the lady who put her makeup on for the TV show that the audience was going to love her because she has that kind of personality.If she can be a model then somebody needs to sign my fat a** up too! She will also tell all your secrets so fast your head will spin. I will not be sorry to see her go.
Eric is one of the best spinmasters I have ever seen and I think he would have a great carrer in politics. He does spin a web for sure.I love how he can trun whatever America throws at him into a positive move for him! I do think thoguh that if the producers had not manipulated the other houseguests the week he was on the block that they would have voted him off.
Talking about previous seasons... I only started watching in Season 5 but since then I would have to say that none of the winners were real "under-the-radar" players.
- S5 - Drew - Drew somehow got involved with both of the major alliances in the house, each of which was determined to wipe out the other. Plus he won HOH at least a couple of times and not by accident either. He definitely had a strategy as well: get rid of people that would get rid of you, without pissing off too many of those left behind.
- S6 - Maggie - definitely not under-the-radar, just not the loudest. In my opinion she won the game when she got Howie to nominate two people from his own alliance. It was a good example of her gameplay as well: subtly plant the seed of a "good idea" in someone else's head, and have them do it, making them the target. She only stepped up when she needed to, but definitely did so. I hated her but she definitely played well.
- S7 - Mike - Mike shouldn't have won, but you can't deny that he constantly made himself a target, actually won comps, pissed people off like crazy, yet somehow always avoided eviction. I don't know that he had much of a strategy of his own but he definitely didn't lay back and do nothing either.
- S8 - Jam & Wahmber - both are completely useless, they just expected to get in with people and somehow end up winning, probably by the hand of God.
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