What a difference a day makes, en? Last night Zach had it all planned out and today his plans have all gone awry with the Donato Duo overturning the game once again.Here are the events of the day from inside that Big Brother House Crushed Dreams and Ultimate Teams:
- Once again, Evel Dick went for the "hate" move. While this isn't a strategy I like and I'm really not sure how it even works for him, he goes back to that when he thinks he can intimidate folks, shake up their concentration or game, or wants to be the one chosen to evict over Daniele. He planned to do his thing to Zach this time. Zach isn't all that easily intimidated and can control his temper. Not the best target for Dick's ire attack.
- Apparently the Diary Room person wanted him to tone down his Dick Attack -- one word couldn't be used, there could be consequences for his actions. He thinks they panic too easily.
- Zach continued to get closer to Jameka, something aided when he told her he had been a theology student.
- Zach pep-talked himself a lot. He told himself he always chokes in comps and he can't do that today.
- Dick had gotten up around six, but found a lockdown was in effect in prep for the POV comp -- so he couldn't smoke. Uh-oh. The way to make an antsy adrenaline-filled dude even more antsy and adrenaline-filled!
- Jameka prayed.
- Zach prayed.
- They prayed together.
- Dick and Daniele did not pray.
- Dick (apparently forgetting his hate-fest for Zach for a moment) borrowed Zach's HOH CD player to play his own short-reign CD which he hadn't listened to as of yet. Air guitar and dancing. This guy needs Guitar Hero!
- Daniele, on the other hand, was very nervous almost to the point of looking ill.
- The comp started late, as is the usual for the house -- doesn't matter what season, I don't think I've ever seen a comp start at the pre-announced time!
- It finally started about 2:30 their time and the feeds were blocked for almost two hours.
- Then the news came in shortly after the feeds returned. Daniele had won the Power of Veto once again.
- Dick is beside himself with glee ... once again.
- Jameka apologized to her family via the live feed cams.
- Jameka's fate is sealed. She's the only one to put on the block to replace a Donato as Zach is the current HOH. The sole vote will be cast by a Donato.
- It sounds like Dick may have come in second.
- Zach told Jameka he hates Dick -- hopes he wins the money and kills himself. Oh, my!
- Zach told Dick that Daniele carried him (Dick) through the game.
- Dick keeps saying that Zach is racist because he once said "that's very white of you." Now, I never personally heard Zach say it, but others (looking at Dick and whistling while thinking of Amber) have said worse.
- Jameka is using her time left before going to sequester to talk to everyone -- Daniele, Dick, and Zach. She wants to know their strategies, what happened during certain incidents, alliances, etc. She thinks she will bring the knowledge to the rest of the jury -- but it's possible this year the jury might not all be sequestered together and, if they are, game talk is forbidden and handlers are there to enforce that. At least, that's the way it's worked in past seasons.
73 comments:
Aarrrrgghhh, I thought with Jessica and Eric gone that surely at least Jameka or Zach might have a chance. Why oh why oh why?? I am to the point that I want to quit watching. I am so disappointed.
THanks Jackie for keeping us updated!
aspalmertree don't give up hope yet. There is still the final HOH and Zach may surprise everyone again and win it. Once it comes down to the final two it is up to the jury and who knows how this group will vote. Regardless one of the Double D alliance is guaranteed second place now that is final three.
I have said from the start..Dick is going to mess around and win this game..those 2 will get zach out somehow..and then it'll be between dick and daniele, and i think that the house would pick dick over daniele..that's what i would do..her whining would be the main reason that i wouldn't give her the $$..and dick has been straight w/everyone..
Lyss
Aspalmertree ~
I also was hoping for Zach and Jameka for F2. Now, I hope Zach wins the final HOH so that he can still be in the F2. I prefer Zach over Dick and Daniele. I agree with the Poster on the other entry - that Dick played an intimidation game and did Daniele's dirty work. Daniele did win 5 POV's and 2 HOH's, but I am not a fan of either of them
It makes me very nervous when Dick assumes both he and Dani will be in F2. After watching all of the previous seasons, we have seen things turn on a dime. Being as the last HOH is 3 parts, I don't think Zach can hold it together enough to win it, but you never know. Boggie wasn't good at comps either, but he pulled it off. I'll be down on my knees praying for Dick. pun intended...lol. I know we get to vote for Eric, but I do hope the entire country gets in on it, not like Thursdays vote.
Shout out to Joe, Willie and Oliver, hope y'all are enjoying this as much as LadyHigh and I are.
Jackie, what in the world would we do without you? Gotta get pay-pal and make a donation, you deserve part of my entertainment budget!
zack saying that dani carried dick is ridiculous. d & d both played a really smart game, whether you like them or not. no-one can say they floated to the end, unlike both jam and zack, who both did float. d & d were in everyones gun sights the whole game, yet no one was smart enough to pull the triger and get rid of at least one of them. now its too late. too bad all you d & d haters.
I don't think Zach can compete for the final HOH. It'll go to one of the D's. Correct if me if I'm wrong.
Zach isn't giving up. He knows Daniele and how she plays the game. He said, as he and Dick fussed with each other, that he wouldn't take Dick with him in F2. Daniele hears this. Then Zach states to all of them several times that he doesn't want 1st place, wouldn't expect first place, and jury wouldn't think he played a good game. But, that Daniele has. Then he tells them that Daniele has 'carried' Dick through out the game. Perfect words to get to a Veto holder.
I don't really think she would send her dad home, I think she would have liked it if someone else did it for her. But, it is fun to watch Zach getting in all the right words, telling Daniele (while yelling at her dad) that he would take Dan to F2 and she would win. At least that is how I hear the convo. : )
Sue
I don't think Zach can compete for the final HOH. It'll go to one of the D's. Correct if me if I'm wrong.
9/08/2007 10:45 PM
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All 3 HG's compete in a 3 part phase, one being an endurance.
like dani is stupid enough to listen to anything zack says. I don't think so. if zack wants f2, he will have to win hoh. the only decision that zack made for himself all season was to put d & d up instead of jam and that didn't work out for him.
Jackie - Thanks for clarifying that the jury members cannot talk game AND that they have "babysitters" to keep them from doing so.
Kwlly in MI
Dick and Danielle were the only players left that actually had a strategy and played a good game, even if it wasn't the way others would play. Jameka and Zach floated and managed to get to the end, not by strategy, but by "bigger fish" had to go first and they are left. Zach did win this last HOH when he needed it most, but that was the only time in the game he actually played.
WOOOOOHOOOOOO
YESSSS! I am so glad the Donatos are winning,I have been rooting for them the entire season.
tb: I'm repeating myself but it happens like this:
all three compete in first comp.
Winner of comp #1 sits out.
Other two play ea other in comp #2
Winner of comp #2 and Winner of comp #1 play each other in comp #3
Winner of comp #3 gets to choose who to take to final #2.
Kat confirmed this earlier... But just to be safe...Jackie are we right?
So what happens next week? D&D compete for HOH and then what one of the D's put up one or two people for eviction? I can't remember what happens when it comes down to the final 3, can some one please explain? Who votes what usually happens?
mark...read my post above yours. You must have been typing as I was posting.
Am I the only person on earth that thinks Dick and Daniele played a good game. I am fine with Dick winning too. He was always interesting to watch and neither one was a floater. I think Jen was fun to watch too. I am fine with Dick winning because he was the star of the show most often...or at the very least made it fun to watch. You must admit this was a boring group of people. One of the worst seasons I think. Nothing can ever replace Janelle. I will NEVER forget her saying "Bye Bye Bitches" She knew how to entertain!!!!!!!!!! Just my opinion. I love to watch BB and I love Jackie's blog. Fabulous. I check to see what she has written several times a day>>Thanks!!!
So the donatos think they have played an amazing game and ran the house... unfortunately their game has not been so great, they got quite a lot of help. The Americas player crap twist is the only reason they are there, not their gameplay. This twist was way unfair for the other houseguests, and if I was one of them i would be angry. If it wasn't for Eric manipulating everyone's votes to do what "we" (not me) wanted then those two would have been gone weeks ago, well, at least one them. So, I dont think the Donato's are as great as they or most people think they are, they had a very unfair advantage.
I'm also rooting for D&D to be the F2, I'm hoping Dick wins over Dani and I believe there's a good chance of that happening. Zach was a floater most of the season and, like Jessica, had a great opportunity to change things up drastically and threw their chance away.
Sounds like Zach is being a sore loser, too at the moment. Dick is just being the same old Dick he usually is (NO pun intended). Dick is so disliked by so many, but he's still there.
As someone else mentioned, the only reason Zach is still there, is because the various HGs had bigger fish to fry. I'm hoping he (Zach) chokes again in the last HOH. He doesn't deserve to win this game because he pretty much sucks at it...... and a former theology student wishing Dick would die if he wins? Now he and Jameka have something in common. They pray for money and they pray foe vengeance. Way to go, Christians!
hmm, let's all go in the house, play the game and critique ourselves.
of course dick adn danielle played the game.
why would jameka go to the final 2 - what gmae play did she have? she gave up competitions. what, her game play was prayer?
zach just really started playing. granted all along he cow-towed to whatever the house was voting, but where was his play.
danielle so far has won the most competitions, correct? it will be a janelle all over again, screwed her due.
jackie, i just read that the jury house has handlers and the members can't talk about the show? i never knew that. something else i leared after reading hours of this blog.
i'm remembering how every season dr will could have been voted off and wasn't. he played, he played the game.
dick and danielle are certainly playing the game and have been since the day they set foot in the house.
i don't care which one of them wins, they deserve it.
I don't get the live feeds so I don't know but has Dani ever called Dick "dad" or Dick? I know she says "my dad" when talking about him but I haven't heard her say "dad" to him, just "can I talk to "you". The one time she picked houseguest choice for POV, she pointed at Dick and said "you". Someone should be able to shed some light on this.
Also, I disagree that Eric and AP had that much difference in the game as a whole (just Eric's game plan). People (Jessica included)didn't have to listen to him when he said "Vote out Dustin" or "Nominate Amber". Eric is NOT Dr Will and he's no puppet master so why people listened to him is beyond me.I also believe that being AP kept him in the game longer than he should have been. Making that alliance with D&D, kept him in there a week or 2 longer (I think Dustin and CO would have gunned for him first before getting Zach out)
Kelly - I can only say that was how it used to be. Who knows with Allison Grodner at the helm this season? My only real production connection left after BB6.
meb - It sounds right to me!
anon @ 11:39 - I think they played a good game ... or they wouldn't be where they are now. Zach, in his own way, played a good game kicking in when the numbers got low. I think the only one who's there by circumstance is Jameka. I think she's lasted as long as she has because they all had bigger fish to fry and she couldn't compete for POV. As for Dick and Daniele, I'd rather Dick win than Daniele.
Anon @ 12:28 - Like I said, that's how it was ... not sure about now. In some of the interviews with past jury members it's been mentioned. That's why in previous seasons, they only let them know the new HOH.
mcello77: Winning all those HOH's and POV's don't count for anything, right?
Er, I meant Jameka couldn't compete for HOH, not POV
Oops!
Hey jackie I was wondering if they know about the upcoming schedule because Jameka thinks she is there until Thurs. I thought Julie said Next eviction is Tues. Seems like at this point in the games it would be pointless to keep them in suspense about schedule.
Donna
They know there are two weeks (little less) left, but don't know about the eviction on Tuesday, I don't think. I believe they will let them know, but probably will let them have a worry-free Sunday.
So, what happens after Jameka's eviction on Tuesday? There are three more shows right? Thursday, Sunday and the final show Tuesday. What will we see on those shows?
Donato's all the way! Woohooo, it would awesome if both D & D were in the final two with Dick winning. The man acts all crude on the show but in reality he's the biggest sweetheart.
The last few seasons, the final two had a few days alone. Julie said live shows Tuesday (eviction) and Thursday -- I'd say that's the start of the final HOH comp, taped results Sunday, then the live finale Tuesday. Supposedly we're going to get a sequester segment during one of them.
GODDESSES DON'T WATCH TV
Jameka is being such a good sport. She's in the kitchen talking with D & D.
This reminds me of last season when all hope was lost, with Booger and Erica the final two. I hope Zach pulls something out of his hat. I really want to see Daniele go home.
~Susan in MA
I dont think the Donatos are only still in the house because of Americas Player. If Erics(Americas) vote wouldn't have been so off in the beginning, then Nick wouldn't have been accused of casting that stray vote and would have remained strong with D&D. Yes, the Donatos were helped towards the end by the AP vote, but they were also screwed by it in the beginning. Besides, Daniele just beat Janelle's POV record for 1 season of BB and together they have had HOH 4 times. Not too bad in my book. They play strategically and always think of their next step. That is what BB is all about. I think we ought to give credit where credit is due. Because if Eric wasnt AP, we have no idea how this season may have played out and I think Eric may have been a goner sooner if it wasnt for DR encouraging some HG's to keep him in after Amber tore him a new one.
AAARGH! AAARGH! Why did that little brat have to win. Drat and double drat.
Oh well, I have faith that Z will at least be able to pull out a win in the F2. At least I hope he can.
Kay
Excuse me but if we(America) really had a choice to nominate someone...anyone, I truly believe Eric would not have lasted as long as he did! WE were never allowed to cast a vote for his nomination/eviction. So sorry for US and him, he "loses" by taking home his $750.00 a week PLUS his $40,000.00! Bite me, he should be happier than a pig in sh_t!
Go Dick...not only would I be proud to have you sitting at my dinner table, I'd welcome your brat daughter to join us.
ps: As I remember from past seasons, when the jury was squestered, they have never been allowed to mull over the game with each other. Jameka gathering info to take back to the jury house will only help her in her own vote. Go Dick!!!!
I remember from last season when they weren't allowed to leave the house but Will and Company went over the wall and were photographed at a bar.
Just because CBS says the jury can't speak about something doesn't mean that they can actually stop them from doing something.
P.S. Steff, If I were you when I had the dastardly duo over for dinner, I'd have either a gas mask or some Beano on hand. LOL
Dick is absolutely disgusting. He's outside (spitting) and cursing Zach. He has the mentality of a 7th grader.
~Susan in MA
And as to AP, I don't think that the idea was stupid or even that some of the tasks were dumb or that we never got to vote for a nomination. I think the biggest problem was with Eric himself. No one really liked him and everyone in America's vote wasn't for him to get further in the game and thus ourselves. Everyone voted for him to do what was best for their favorite player. Hey, as much as I dislike Dick, I even voted for Eric to vote out Dustin, as did most of everyone else it seems. I think if they had had someone like say Janelle or Will whom most everyone in America could like and could get behind, that person would have won this game hands down. Do you really think that if Will had been given the task of getting into bed with Joe while pretending to be sleepwalking, he would failed at it. Oh no, not Will. He would have calmly walked up to the bed, climbed into it with Joe and even pushed Joe out into the floor. Then he would claimed that he had been sleepwalking and that he was sorry. The next thing you know Will would have been in the DR rolling on the couch about the look on Joe's face when he hit the floor the whole time dying laughing right along with me.
Kay
Being as I live in FL, we would be dining al fresco...let 'em rip, down wind.
Hey steff, you better not light any candles or torches though.
By the way did you ever read the post where I told you what I did with my cat JR who used to like to bite me?
Kay
Lets just say anyone this season could have won just as many HOH, POV,considering who all was in the house, there literally was no competion among the mentals
Yes Kay, I did...there aren't many things in this world I'm afraid of... but no way am I gonna toss my cat into the shower. She would rip the canvas curtain to shreds, then come after me! I suppose if I had doors on my shower I might try it, but being its just a piece of cloth between me and her...nope, not gonna try it. I have a spare shower curtain, but only one life! Thanks anyway.
Jameka had no game, she just floated along
Zack had game, his game was to stay cool & calm & under the radar, & come out fighting in the end when he had to
Dick had game from the very beginning - i didn't like his game play, but at least he was playing the game - and it could have back fired on him at any time, & i'm sure he knew that
Dani whines & cries, but she is good at comps, & that is as much a part of the game as anything else
The whole AP at this point is hindsight, no matter what happened, if something different happened, we can only speculate as to how it would have turned out - alliances change, & shift, people turn on each other in the space of a few hours, so we don't know how the game would be at this point if things were different
I believe that Dani is smart enough to know that if her & Dick are 1 & 2, he will share the money with her, if she is 1 & 2 with Zack, she may only end up with $50 K
Yeah,the D's are two self centered,self absorbed individuals who don't care much for the feelings of others,they are happy as long as they are on top and if crossed,they become sullen,ill tempered and,in dick's case,they throw tantrums,abuse people and act even more disgusting than usual.Daniele is a brat,but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Where was he when she was growing up? Indulging in drugs,booze and off marrying multiple times. You can see most of his life has been about me,me,me and now she's the same way and he now wants to be "father of the year"! I'm not buying that,and neither is she,apparently.
I think the BB staff owe all the other hamsters a big apology,because putting these two in the house together gave them a big advantage over all the rest.Jess and Dustin had nowhere near the chance of an alliance as strong as family,no matter how disfunctional. Dani knows dick feels guilty,as well he should,and she has ridden that for all it's worth. In most cases,blood is always thicker than with strangers.So it won't be a big surprise when they walk away with all the big money. I still don't think their "estrangment" was as big a deal as they made it out to be. JMO
GO ZACH...I'm still holding out hope!
Sharon, i agree about the disfunctional family of D/D, but i don't think they went into the game with anymore advantage than anyone else, there were other 2 person alliances, & they could have won, or controlled the game as well as D/D - it just worked out this way - either or both of them could have been booted at any time, but the other hamsters had bigger fish to fry when they had the chance
Yes Meb you are right that is how the final HOH is played
Someone threw their cat into a shower? Awful.
I've had cats all my life, and I'd never use abuse as discipline. There are plenty of other ways.
Julie said it would be down to the final 2 by Thursday....I thought it was eviction and HOH on Tuesday...they usually have show with the final 2 doing not a whole lot and the jury would get to ask questions as I remember it, although who knows this season!!!
Is that true what they're saying on the other blogs about the penalty vote against the Donato's for the letter and the secret code? Then Zach would cast the tie-breaking vote and Jameka will be saved. Awesome!
I think if the final 2 come down to Dick and Zach (i hope) Then dani will guilt dick into giving her the money with her "this sucks and i hate everyone" speach and then after she gets the cash not talk to dick for another few years! SHE SUCKS! GO ZACH!!!
:)
In the end, has any 2 person alliance won as many total comps as D/D?
Isn't it a total of 4 HOHs (out of 12?) and 6 POVs (out of 12?) That's 1/3 of the HOHs and 1/2 the POVs.
People keep saying that the other hamsters were week and anyone could beat them. All that proves is that the Ds were the anyones and deserve to win.
As I think back on all the old comp warriors from season past like Maggie and Yvette, Dr. Will and Boogie, Erika and Howie, good old Kayser...oh wait, I don't think those 7 people combined won as many comps as the Ds...
In the end, I will quote Dr. Will in explaining why he never one comps, "What I realized early on was that this was a psychological game not a physical game..."
Y'know, much as I despise Dani and Dick makes me uncomfortable, they dominated physically AND psychologically. It is hard to argue that they don't deserve to be the final 2, other than out of pure dislike for them.
hi everyone - just fyi - i'm playing text twist, & blog wasn't accepted as a word - so what are we doing here ??
anon 9:21
Other blogs must be lying. BB gave them the letter, they can't penalize them for not censoring the content. Plus, I don't think there was any real code there, just speculation on Dick's part.
Not to mention there would be a huge outcry if BB took the decision out of the HGs hand at this point. (And I doubt CBS wants Jam and Zack to survive at the expense of the Donatos who are disgusting but less boring than J/Z)
Yo, shout out to Steff and LadyHigh!!!
(Y'know, I'm single again... :)
joe in NY - i agree with you, D/D are the only ones who really played the game from the beginning, i don't like Dani's whining & complaining, & i really didn't like Dick's verbal attacks on everyone, but... they played the game, & Dick played it with a target on his back the whole time !!
wont the donatos definitly be final 2? b/c i dont think zach can compete as outgoing hoh. or can he because its the final one?
All three will get to compete for final HOH,
anon 9:50am - read my post of 11:34a above, which was posted yesterday. It explains how final 3 competitions work.
On other subject: I have a dog, Buddy, who would not come in the house from the fenced in back yard when I called him. He would run from me when I would go to get him. He was playing, but there were times when I would be late from work if I just ignored him, so I had to teach him to come when called.
I took the hose (without the pressure do=hicky) and managed to corner him and soaked the crap out of him. All I have to do now is ask, "Want me to get the water?" and he flies through the door. It only happened once, but it worked. It didn't hurt him, it wasn't abuse, and he learned a lesson.
I can never give him a bath, but there are always trade offs. Smile.
Um shouldn't Zack not be allowed to compete for the next HOH b/c he will be outgoing HOH?
I just don't think that there should be any cheating or lying on the show. It isn't right. Only people who tell the truth should be allowed to play. They should disqualify you and kick you off the show if you are deceitful.
ooops.. I mean "late FOR work".
Barbwire,
I agree totally, especially the taget.
That's why I think it is unfair to complain that D/D being in the house was unfair. Sure, they are tight now, but their presence early on made them targets (like Joe and Carol).
Anon at 10:13
Are you kidding? That's what the game is all about...there wouldn't be any contestants left.
Donna
Meb--
About your dog and the shower--they're much different from cats. Cats hate water and would be absolutely terrified. We have to bathe our dog and get her groomed, it's part of the deal. I'd never subject a cat to a shower, though. I can't even imagine it.
meb,
What you did to your dog was the equivalent to the abuse Dick heaped on Jen with the iced tea. You might not want to tell that story, you remember how people on this board wanted CBS to boot him or jail him after that...
anon 10:19... I agree... cats do clean themselves usually, but there are cats who get bathed. Certainly those in contests get baths and that's not considered abuse. If the cat was a biter, he needed to be broken of it and if the shower did it for him, then so be it. He didn't die and he wasn't hurt..... and why am I taking up for somebody else...
joe in ny ... you're right... I must learn when to mind my own business. LOL I see your other loves have abandoned you (too). friendly xoxox's
On my way to hospital to see my BFF, so back later.
The Ds have played the game well. I don't know of any minute Daniele wasn't working it, and Dick claims he is only abusive to get his way. That seemed to work, and he excused his way by saying he was doing it for the better good..meaning saving his daughter. I always have a let down at this time in the show. I think it is because I realize how out of step I am with the BB contestants and their fans. And that they have many fans. And that I like their fans that post on this board and I like hearing the diverse opinions stated. It opens up my world by letting me see and hear what others are thinking and doing. And if I am not understanding the personal approval of the Ds, then it carries over in that I will be out of step with many people in the outside world. That always gives me pause. Some part of me must enjoy the low down dirty dealings it takes to play BB or I wouldn't get involved in it. I don't think I even want a "good person" to win. : ) Good thing, 'cause I haven't seen many good hgs in all the years of BB. Maybe the lesson is that none of us are good enough, we just are who we are.
I think the best part of the finale is that I can release myself from the summer fling I had with BB and go out and find my own little niche in which to hide from the rough characters of the world. I like to learn things from all experiences and BB this year has brought a few things into focus.
I sound a little down, as I reread the above note. But, it isn't because I don't think any of the F3 don't deserve to win the game. Surviving to the F3 means..just by the fact a hg is there...that they did something right. Zach played an internal game, that only he was privy too, while D and D were outthere keeping us informed on every move. I see BB as a cross section of our Society and I get to be the Mad Scientist who watches how they behave under certain controled circumstances. And that is what bothers me the most. Thank you Jackie, Sue
I know this will bug the heck out of some readers, that said, so sorry just skip my post. ty.
Not all cats hate water, I did have one a few years ago that i couldn't keep out of the shower, she loved it! I don't think putting one in the shower would be abusive, however, I don't know if Lady would realize she was in the shower for biting me. She has trained me well...I now watch where and how I pet her. Don't try to lift her up either, unless you have a good supply of bandaids.
Goooooooooo Dick!!! Even Dani is getting points for telling ED to calm down, they HAVE NOT WON YET!
Close but they need that last HOH. This is where it usually goes wrong for me, cheering on someone all summer only to have them blow it in F3.
Sorry your blogmance didn't work out for you Joe. I haven't been posting for a few days cause I broke my wrist Monday. Ouch Ouch.
If you need a keyboard to cry on, mine is still available.
Okay, it was my cat and I can take up for myself thank you very much. I was just asleep and therefore wasn't here to defend myself. I put him in the shower and I'd do it again if I had to. Unfortunately, Junior died last year and I still miss and love him. He was one of the best cats I have ever had. He used to sleep with me every night and every day when I came home from work he was right there meeting me at the car...most likely wanting to eat but still he didn't meet anyone else in my family. I have an elderly mother who has difficulty healing from cuts and the like. She currently has a sore that we've tried to get healed now for the past three months and it's still not properly healing despite repeated trips to the doctor for it and antiboiotics and neosporin. I loved Junior but it wasn't just me he was biting. It was either the shower or put him down at that point. I chose the shower. The only thing that was hurt on him was his pride and he had too much of that. I can't help it. it was partly my fault. I spoiled him. When Junior who was fully grown moved to our house, he had been abused by his previous owners. I never knew for sure but I could kinda tell you know so I didn't want to spank him. I did spank him once with a rolled up newspaper but he turned around and attacked it and tore it to shreds and I felt guilty as hell about that. After the three shower incidents, he never bite or scratched anyone again. I think he finally realized how good he had it at our house where he was allowed to come in every day, sleep in a big soft recliner, watch tv whenever he wanted, got first dibs on all the food and slept in a big soft feather bed while the other cats were outside looking in. I loved him the best probably because he was such a brat. If he had wanted to move back to his old house, he could have. He spent a lot of time outside, whenever he wanted in fact. He wanted to be with us. We wanted him here with us. We all loved him dearly.
I don't feel like I abused him. I also don't think Dick throwing tea on Jen was abuse either. It wasn't very nice but Jen wasn't scarred for life. (Gawd I'm having to defend Dick now. I will never forgive you people for thIS.) But then Dick isn't a very nice person is he? You don't know well enough to judge me. You've heard one story about me. If I was ashamed of it, I wouldn't have told it to you.
So in short, you raise your kids the way you want to. I'll raise mine the way I want to. I can guarantee you one thing though, my kids will be well-behaved.
Kay
ONe more thing, thanks to everyone who stood up for me. I appreciate it. I'm sorry you got labeled as an abuser too.
Kay
OMG!
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