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| Paul and Elena talk |
Here's the latest from inside that Big Brother House of Crumbling Cookies:
- The live feeds were blocked for 100 hours yesterday! Some of us have to work for a living, including having to work weekends! Grr.
- Okay, it wasn't a 100 hours. It was more like ten hours. But, still ... they didn't return until almost 2am Eastern Time. I had been awake since 5am and worked all day Friday. I ended up going to bed, getting up early and catching up via Flashback.
- After they returned, they already had the Temptation Challenge done and nominations in.
- Cody won safety this week in the Temptation Challenge.
- Unfortunately, both Cody and Jessica chose to play in that.
- Uh-oh. Jessica did the worst and is put on the block as the third nominee.
- Josh nominated Elena and Mark.
- Hmm.
- Now, of course, IF Cody gets chosen to play PoV and wins, he could take Jessica off the block and she wouldn't be replaced or she might even win PoV -- she's fairly good in many comps. That would end up with either Mark or Elena going home.
- I think I'd personally prefer Elena going home of those two. She often irks me on the live feeds, more so than Mark.
- Oh my. There was a kerfuffle between Josh, Paul and Elena.
- Despite the fact that Elena badmouthed Paul and Alex earlier in the day, now Paul trusts Elena more than he does Josh?
- That's a bit whacked.
- Elena once again is trying to tug the same heartstrings with Paul that she did some time ago with Mark -- Woe is me.. I have no job to go home to, no home to live in. Woe is me. BB is my job.
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- Paul told her he's not the HoH this week -- last week was enough for him.
- He told her that he (Paul) was willing to be a pawn for Josh because Josh was a pawn for him.
- Paul advised her to win the veto to take herself down. He said he'd try to help her if he's chosen to play for veto. But, he didn't promise to take her off the block if he wins.
- Maybe he's just not that into her! Heh.
- Meanwhile, Josh is telling everyone not to talk to Jess and Cody because they're playing "victims."
- Um. Well. They actually were victims of his ridiculous antics.
- He doesn't want people to attack them, just ignore them.
- I would guess BB spoke to him about his outrageous behavior.
- Both Jessica and Cody hung out with the others most of the evening in the kitchen. Well, what evening was left after the feeds came back, that is.
- Jessica talked with others (not about game) and smiled. Cody did his staring with an occasional comment thrown in.
- They feasted at midnight their time when the Have Nots could finally eat again.
- Raven and Christmas both trash-talked about Jessica to Josh.
- Josh thinks that Jessica was incredibly rude to him in her speech while Raven is still going on about cat ears.
- Josh told his crew he wants Jessica out this week.
- That's even after Paul brought up that Elena threw him, Alex and Jason "under the bus" to Josh.
- Mark thinks that Jessica and Cody did the right thing by both competing in the comp. This way, she'd have a chance at veto (maybe two chances if Cody plays) and it wouldn't be a backdoor with no possibility of saving herself.
- He might have a point there.
- Alex hid a two-liter bottle of Coca Cola in the storage room. Kevin and Jason hid bottles of water in the lounge room. I don't know why. Maybe they expect a shortage and plan to make money selling the beverages?
- Josh's ideal final four would be himself, Alex, Jason and Kevin.
- Now, I like the thought of three of them being in the final four.
- He thinks Christmas and Paul should round out the final six.
- Hmm.
- Jason would prefer Elena going home over Jessica this week. He says Elena's playing everyone and thinks she's smarter than all. At least they know where Jessica stands.
- Kevin talked with Jason about the possibility of working with Cody once Jessica goes home. He thinks they could get Cody to realize that Mark, Elena, Matt and Raven were targets more so than them.
- Hmm.
- Kevin is right that Cody does well in comps and would be a lone wolf.
- However, I doubt that Jason and Kevin would make the top of Cody's hit list for targets if he does win HoH.
- If Jessica goes home this week, Kevin is going to whisper to her to tell Cody to work with him because "I've been good to you."
- Hmm.
- A lot will hinge on the veto comp later today.
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75 comments:
Thanks Jackie! That seemed like the loooonnngest comp ever!
Whoohooo - Cody & Jess planned that one would win, one would throw. They succeeded. Mark was correct - very smart.
When discussing noms with Josh, Paul continuously says "we", not "you". Yet he insists he is exhausted from last week (I call b.s. on that).
Raven keeps giving us her Misery Resume'. We ALL have sob stories. We've ALL lost friends, relatives, co-workers, etc to cancer, car wrecks & various other tragedies. Why does Raven believe her woes trump everyone else's? I despise her.
I'd love to see Kevin & Jason work with Cody & Jessica. (Alex is to rabid...).
Anything can happen in 5 days, *sigh* I am hoping Cody & Jess stay another week.
Josh is one of my least favorite players....ever. I don't want him to succeed in his HoH, but I would like to see Elena go, too. If she's using this show as her "job", that is just pathetic!
I'm not a fan of Jody, but glad their plan worked of one winning and one throwing the Temptation, if it irks Paul to no end. Ideally, I would love to see Paul and then Josh walk out the door.
I would have really liked to have seen how the sheeple would have reacted to the game without Paul. Unfortunately, the producers don't feel they can have a cast without a veteran showing up for their 16 minutes of friendsheep and "fame". It has just ruined the show for me this year. How would Kevin be without Paul? Josh without Paul egging him on? Cody's HoH? We'll just never know. *sigh*
Josh wants Elena out big time, not Jessica. So far, he's confided in Xmas and Maven on his plan and they said they'd vote the way he wants. Josh is annoying, but who would have thought he was the only one who could think for himself and not follow Paul blindly. Josh has even stated outloud that Jody is a threat to Paul, not him.....and he's right!
Once again this year, I find myself agreeing with Petals! I'm not sure why people don't like Cody....yes, he's odd and has some quirks, but I think he's been very restrained under the circumstances. And while his ideas of relationships with Jessica may be old fashioned and macho, he's actually treated her very well and has some personality when with her. He doesn't add much entertainment, but getting under Paul's skin is entertainment enough for me. Cody confronting Paul had showed Paul's true colors. He just can't believe someone stood up to him and is also scared to death of Cody coming after him....as he should be!
Raven is so annoying and no one deserves to be at the bottom of Jokers Rankings more than her....and Paul is second to last....yea! I hope once they reach jury, people like Matt will finally stop floating and play the game. Here's to another week of Jody (hopefully)!!
I'm surprised Josh isn't more miffed at Jody's attempt to oust him 2 weeks ago. I don't watch the feeds, but it's also surprising that he so dislikes Elena. I'm not a big fan and she is a bit two-faced, playing both sides of the house. But what has she DONE? Pretty much nothing. I'm surprised she's even on his radar.
Is Josh a fan of the show? In some ways, his targeting Elena seems more in line with the old "get the floaters out" strategy of years past.
REally need Jessica to win POV, if only to see Paul really lose it.
I'm a little unhappy that Kevin's move this week seems to be to figure out how to use Little Orphan Cody to his benefit rather than maybe save his Boston Girl Jessica. I mean, it's not hard to make the case (as Josh seems to be) that removing Elena is to the benefit of the dominant side of the House. She's potentially a Jody ally because of Mark, so it weakens Jody, and it removes a floater who can't be trusted in the long run. Jessica is a bigger target and would remain one, but if you are at all friendly with Jessica (Kevin!), why wouldn't you try to make the case in support of the HOH and maybe save Jessica.
At some point, the Gang of 8-1/2 is going to have to break into suballiances. At that point, a Jessica or Cody are useful. And while there is a disadvantage to keeping couples (er..still a Maven and Marlena, by the way), there is also an advantage when you are building a new alliance: two for the price of one.
Do you think Paul will try to get Christmas to use her POV switch if Cody is selected for veto comp? If there is no expiration she'd probably be smarter to wait til she's personally in some jeopardy to use it.
I wonder if part of Josh targeting Elena is just because it isnt what Paul wants.
Actually, it's no wonder Paul trusts Elena more than Josh now...considering Josh isn't blindly following Paul's dictums, like Paul thought he would!
Not that Paul cares about Elena that much, but [depending on Veto result], I totally expect Paul will continue to try and get Jessica out, despite Josh's wishes. If that happens, Josh just might decide that maybe Paul isn't his BFF after all. LOL
Josh can't seem to make up his mind. First he's adamant about getting Elana out. Then, when he thinks Jessica was rude to him (again), he wants Jessica out. Things never change. I'd love to see Elana go.
Penny, I think Josh wants both out, but his preference is to get Elena out first.
Josh is frustrating poor poor Paul. LOL
Delighted Paul is frustrated by Josh!!
I will be delighted if Elena leaves. No...I will be jumping for joy!
Well, looks like Jessica blew any support she might have had from Josh. Should have kept her cool and mouth shut. I think he wants her out more than Elena now. :(
Josh thinks Cody/Jessica are playing personal (like he hasn't?) and says she was 'dissing' him during their conversation. @@
So come on Jessica... win that Veto!!
Hopefully, Cody will be picked to play to add to their chances.
Xmas isn't dumb, she's not going to use her VETO switch on Cody, she's going to save it for when SHE needs it. Like a mental comp, or better yet, to prevent Paul from playing veto down the road so they can get him out (one can only hope). In case you missed it, Xmas actually said she wants to save her power for later, which Paul obviously didn't like hearing.
In some ways, Jessica is more of a hothead than Cody. Even in the Bag Yard Bullying, she was the one who went off in the kitchen when Cody refused to leave the bedroom. Don't get me wrong, Cody has his hot buttons - don't we all - but Jessica really seems more generally hot-headed, even with Cody. Remember how mad she got at him when he offered to leave the House to help her game?
Jessica is upset because Christmas used her Ring of Replacement to take Cody down and is replacing him in the Veto Comp.
Well, looks like we've been giving Christmas way too much credit for smarts.
It's a whole new kind of dumb not to save it for something that will actually help HER in the future. But that's JMO.
*ho hum*
It's Paul's HOH again.
Xmas told Josh she would NOT use the Ring, but Paul put his foot down, so she used it.
Cody cried, it was difficult to watch, bless his heart.
The rest of Our Gang (@@) went to the HOH and Paul instructed them all on how to "fix" the upcoming POV comp. He seems convinced that it is Over/Under, Black Box or OTEV (mind you, he only played one of those). ANY FAN could have explained these comps to the Sheeple, but Paul was teaching to a rapt class of idiots.
Poor Josh sat silently...UNTIL Paul instructed half his Sheeple to dog Jessica during OTEV.
Josh finally spoke, saying, "NO - do not eff with Jessica, leave her alone"
Paul won - they are instructed to yes, follow Jessica & politely bother her during the comps.
Terrible storms here...hope we don't lose power.
Have a good Saturday night, guys.
♥
Be safe Petals. Hopefully you keep your power!
What do you think Cody will do if Jessica gets evicted? I'm not trying to be funny here, I can see him feeling responsible because he is safe and she is not. I'm sure if he could take her place and leave instead, he would do it, but I don't think that's allowed. Do you think he would self-evict? I could see he wanting revenge, but he's basisorking by himself. I'm not a huge fan of either one of them, but I think Jessica would have a much better shot in the game if the situation were reversed.
And for those of you that don't know what basisorking means = basically working. Stupid iPhone.
Be safe Petals. Hope you do not lose power.
Cody actually cried? I am hoping the challenge is a physical challenge. Just to spite Christmas. Maybe Jessica will do well?
All Paul has been doing, since he's been in the house, is try to get Jody out of the house. He's done nothing else. That's game strategy?
I am not a fan of Elena, she makes me sick, but I have to say, Jessica is actually worse, last night when Alex was talking to Josh in the HOH room, about what Jessica did to her, and that she is the one putting her thumb in Paul's a**, and slapping V, and she put her finger in Alex's V, then she needs to go, and Jessica needs the public to know she is a sexual predator, so much for her "high powered job" sickening, just sickening!
Cody is Pauls White Whale. He can not see past him and I hope it destroys his game. The others are (finally) starting to wake up to this. I think Paul is doing this to try and keep everyone's focus on the percieved boogy man so they will not focus on him.
If he had actually got out Cody and Jessica already I think he would be in big trouble now with everyone else. He is just too blind to see it, or as I said, he is holding the shiney object over there to keep the heat off himself.
Either way, the best thing for his game would be to actually evict Elena this week and keep the shiney objects in the game.
And.....Jessica had a grip on Codys Penis at the eviction on Thur. and BB had to yell at her to let it go!!! It is all on the feeds! Sickening!
They tried to screw with jess during a comp before and it didn't work.Why do they think this have a different outcome?? I hope she can pull out the win.I want Jody to stay in the house,mainly because they haven't drunk the Paul kool-aid..lol. I have to say, I am surprised by Josh this week.I may even give in and watch the show tomorrow night.
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Anon 7:29. I have heard talk of Elena doing stuff like that, but, last night was the first I have heard of Jessica doing it also. I saw it on BBAD last night but it was cut in in the middle of the conversation and I am not sure what was said just before that.
Since Jessica is almost never with anyone but Cody, and I don't ever see her getting up close and personal with anyone else, I need more information before I would go throwing out accusations like that.
Since the conversation was cut in and out a few times, she may have said Jessica when she meant Elena or Alex was intentionally telling the Elena story, which I have heard from Alex before, to Josh but intentionally changed the name trying to make Jessica look bad. Which actually makes Alex look bad if that's what she was doing.
I reserve judgement on that whole thing. More evidence than Alex telling a story to Josh for unknown or personal reasons is not something to ruin someones life over.
I don't get the feeds, I read about them online. Jessica really had her hand on Cody's private area? WOW. In front of everyone.????
Anon 7:36 The feeds are off during the live show so........
I've never seen any of that (myself) on the feeds, even though they've talked about it. Until I see it for myself, I'm not taking any of the story telling as gospel. The other stuff in the HOH this afternoon was just smart game strategy to keep one (for most) and three (for Josh/Christmas/Alex) from winning the veto. Most don't want Jessica to win, but Josh/Christmas/Alex don't want the nominations changed so they just don't want Jess or Marlena to win. That's smart, not evil.
Petals, hate to hear about the storms. Stay safe out there and I hope your power stays on too. There's nothing worse than losing power in the summer or the winter. Been there too many times. ♥♥
Anon 7:59 - do you really think if Jessica were sexually assaulting multiple house-guests, that Production wouldn't step in and stop it? AND why didn't any of them report this alleged assault? The house-guests making these kind of serious allegations on television is slanderous and is actionable.
Similar to when Raven accused Josh of "peeping" at her in the shower, obviously when they are being filmed from different angles 24/7, Big Brother didn't find any evidence of it.
These are serious allegations and not to be thrown-about lightly; obviously I do not believe it. Like Monty - I know that Jess has been Cody 95% of the time; when was she available to assault Paul & Alex?
*smh* Come on!
They were all talking about Jessica doing that during the eviction ceremony, and Jessica did all the grabbing and thumbing the week Cody was out of the house! Alex was talking to Josh in HOH about not apologizing to Jessica since she has called Josh a sexual predator, when in fact Jessica is the predator, apparently Alex has a family member who was raped and tortured, she said she could really mess up Jessica's game for what Jessica did to Alex! Not trying to start a rumor, I watched it on the Live feeds!
Power is off and on. Lightning striking and those LOUD claps of thunder, then the lights dim & go out. Flash flooding, etc. It will pass tonight and head your way, my friend, so prepare.
We have candles, matches, flashlights at the ready. 1/2 the city is out of power now, we're still on (for now, fingers crossed)
Off topic: Is anyone watching the Netflix series Ozark? OMG - it is sooooo good. the best line from ep 1: "Lake of the Ozarks? Where is that??" "a place where camouflage is a primary color!"
Bwhahahaha (because it's true)
Stay safe Petals. Are you getting our "Rocky Mountain" storms rolling through your area, or are they coming up from the south?
Colorado is having June Gloom in August. Cloudy/overcast most of the day (very little sun), and then rain every afternoon/evening for the past 2 weeks. Can't complain since it raises the water table, keeps the lakes full, and there's only been a couple of fires in CO this year.
GOOOO Jessica... win VETO!!!!!
Yes, that is another one Petals. I couldn't follow everything Alex was saying last night (err, this morning) because she mentioned something that caused the feeds to cut to fish and I heard, Jessica and Raven among things she was talking about. I don't know just as David said the full extent of it because of the feed cut. I hopped on the Alex train this morning for Alex's pep talk about not letting others play to his emotions. Some of what I got out of it about Raven and her multiple ailments and obvious play for sympathy, I thought was spot on.
The other stuff is just hearsay to me. If I haven't seen it for myself, it doesn't factor into my opinion on people/things/situations.
I gotcha, Anon. I understand you were repeating what you heard on feeds...I do it, too. lol
I'm just saying that what is being said on feeds about that particular thing (sexual assault) is a serious thing, and can ruin someone.
I just really doubt it happened the way they are describing it now. If anything came even close to that, it was probably horseplay. I mean, it is nearly physically impossible without a willing participant, especially with cameras everywhere.
Ultimately,if anything DID happen, action would have been taken to remove the offender from the game, period. JMO
Couple of doozies here:
Sat 3:33 PM BBT Cody to Jess: Every 1 of those ppl up there want to be remembered for something. They think they have to be a cartoon character to be remembered. They'll never be f*n be remembered. YOU'RE going to be remembered, for going after it strong the entire game. WHole f*N house going after a strong woman the entire game. That's huge.
HaHaHa LMAO Yeah we always remember the HG that crawls into a showmance first chance she gets.
Sat 3:34 PM BBT Jessica: I wish I could've pulled a Janelle this season- and just fought 'em all till the end.
Uh,that would have required having a personality capable of having a social game and an understanding of the game as a whole. Oh,and Janelle didn't need a showmance with someone who was perceived as a strong player. Rule #1. Don't get into a showmance.
Finally our favorite psycho...
Sat 3:35 PM BBT Cody to Jessica. I'm going to take a bite of ravens food and then spit it out on the floor. And then say that taste like sh**
Big bad Cody has been crying off and on all afternoon.
YEEPS -
just heard Elena won veto.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Feeds still on animal cam. The veto is only two hours in so I doubt there is any winner yet.
Petals,Yeah,Ozark is awesome. I just finished episode 8. 2 more to go. Ever watch Bloodline? That's another great one.
I saw that conversation also, they went to feeds when Alex mentioned her relative, but it went back quickly, I thought she was talking about Raven, then Elena, but she clearly referred to Jessica. Sooooo I don't know.........
Oh, Artie -you aren't normally so mean-spirited. Cody really gets under your skin, doesn't he?
Where is cuddly, fun Uncle Artie?
I was skeptical of their instant romance, but now it's been 43 days and it's still going. I've had first dates that lasted 5 months, so I can't judge Cody & Jess, because it seems like they genuinely care for one another.
Ozark... that's the one with Laura Linney isn't it? Love her and I've been meaning to start it. I'll have to catch so I can comment with you guys on it. Sounds like a great show.
Apparently Artie has the same white whale as Paul.
Jessica winning the POV would NOT change the noms as she can't be replaced.
As for Christmas, I've converted to Judaism and will only be celebrating Hanukkah from now on. They've got 3 legitimate targets on the block. Jessica can NOT be replaced on the block. There is NO reason for her to waste her power on trying to get Jessica out. HER game - as opposed to Paul's - is equally served by any of the 3 nominees being evicted. Well, other than the fact that she's obeying her cult leader and trying to show loyalty to him.
There have always been alliances and blocks and unpopular HGs. The closest thing to this has to be Brenchel. But even then, the House didn't rise to the same level of animus as this group. It's the craziest obsession I can remember.
yes, Monty! OMG about Ozark. It seems like you're watching a calm, quiet story then BAM! and the BAMS keep coming. Let me know how you feel about it.
Exactly, lemonjello. I didn't get that she was saying that about Jessica at all, but it was hard following it with the feed cut and multiple names thrown around. Too little evidence to say anything about all of it. Agree with Petals also about adult horseplay. If any of that happened in the house, and I mean if, BB would be on that in a hot second. That's not something to take lightly. I don't factor in the hearsay as I said up there ^^
Frankly, for all those plotting morons, Elena winning veto would be WORSE than Jessica because one of those idiots will have to play pawn. And, as we all know, sometimes pawns go home. And didn't Paul volunteer to Josh to be a pawn if he needed one? Now that would be fun. Put Paul on the block with Jessica and see if anyone might decide that getting rid of Paul is more in their long term interests than Jess.
I'd like to know how/why Jessica would have even gotten close enough to Paul's butt to insert anything. The whole story is so implausible. They KNOW they are on camera 24/7.
I guess I'm once again in the minority for thinking Christmas did a smart thing here. She kept Cody AND Jessica playing in the comp together so that weakens at least Jessica, so to speak. There's no mistaking that JODY is still a HUGE target in there for all of the other side of the house. I would have done it. They want one of them out before jury and if the plan pans out, they MIGHT get their wish.
Juicy gossip. If BB followers don't see/hear it with their own eyes/ears on the live-feeds, BBAD, or on the show, maybe take the rumors being spread IN THE HOUSE [by the other players] as a "Gaming Grain of Salt."
I'm not liking all the talk about sexual predators in the house. Words like sexual-predator are getting tossed around a bit too loosely IMO, and can ruin lives. It's more likely an attempt to try and turn people against others. If actions like that were actually happening, I'm pretty sure BB would put the skids to it post-haste.
This week, all the rumors are about Jessica, but think about it... they are trying to ensure she gets voted out. And a few weeks back, they started accusing Josh of being a predator... saying that he was peeking at the girls while they were taking showers. Now they are acting like Josh's BFF.
Feeds back
Sounds like Mark won
But, Monty, that's groupthink. Christmas making jury only requires that Christmas not be voted out this week. If Jess wins veto, it GUARANTEES that Christmas can't be put on the block. If Elena wins veto, Christmas COULD be put on the block. Frankly, you could argue that it is in Christmas' personal best interest to throw the comp TO JESS!
Given what just happened at ABC on that dating show, I'm pretty sure CBS wouldn't stand for any borderline predatory behavior.
Mark won POV
It was something messy and looks like Christmas wasn't allowed to play because she's clean as a whistle, lol
Should we take bets on whether Paul continues to volunteer to be a pawn? :)
I think Christmas should be the pawn, if only to show her the folly of her ways.
No, Joe. She doesn't want Jess and Cody both in jury because they will vote as one. I guess she'd take her chances with the other showmances but not with them.
Ditto BF Joe. ♥
This is beyond anything I can remember (though I do not have the BB memory that you, Jackie and Monty possess).
Christmas has already offered to be the pawn
I'm not sure that a couple in jury need vote as one. And, even if they did, who does Christmas think they would vote for?
Newest plan is to make Mark _not_ use the POV in order to declare he's not with Cody. Smart move.
Monty and Jackie, yes. I can't remember who was evicted last week, much less in season 2. LOL
How the eff would Mark taking himself off the block show that he's WITH Cody? It would mean he's with HIMSELF? Only an idiot would buy that line of malarky. [We'll soon find out if Mark is an idiot.] And why would they care if Mark takes himself off? If they are all solidly voting for Jess or even Elena, it doesn't make any difference who the replacement pawn would be?
Mark won? *sigh* Darn it. Guess he isn't as much of a floater as I've been thinking. Won 2 comps so far.
All this talk of Paul volunteering to go on the block must've happened off-cam, b/c I sure didn't hear him say it. LOL Not that it matters now.
Oh well, Jody put up a great fight, I'm just sayin.
Wait - can you imagine how AWESOME it would be if Josh replaced Mark with PAUL? (sorry, friend)
bwhahaha
These people are just bullies for the sake of being bullies. IF they feel the need to pressure/trick/convince Mark NOT to save himself, it is only to stroke their own ego so Paul can go in the Diary Room and tell us all how brilliantly he played this week. Like last week when he was stroking himself, saying how only a BB genius could convince Jess to NOT use the Hex.
Has to be a shocker to Paul.
He didn't think Mark could win anything. LMAO
If you are on the block and you have the veto, you take yourself down or you are forever remembered as the idiot who self-evicted like what's his name back in Season 1 or 2. [See Petals, I can't remember anything. LOL]
Maybe, Paul and Jessica had a secret alliance going into BB, they have mentioned having mutual friends on the outside, so they get in there and Jessica goes ga ga for Cody, makes Paul furious so he hates Cody, wants him out, thinking Jessica will come back to him, then Cody comes back, she runs to him again, Paul is still furious, now wants Jessica out! On a side note........ Jessica does seem to be obsessed with a**holes(no pun intended) She was talking about A-holes the other night, as in putting fingers in other people's and turning! Don't ask me why, didn't hear her reasoning on it. ;(
Jackie has a new post up
Wouldn't it be funny if Mark agreed not to use it on himself.
And then used it to save Elena... because she has nothing ya'know.
Oh, and he's in loooove.
Joe in NY,You thinking of Marcellus?
BF - lol
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