Sunday, September 03, 2006

'Big Brother 7: All Stars' - Live Feeds Report - Sunday 9/03 Into The Afternoon


<--- Mike "Boogie" Malin, a legend in his own mind. I snagged this screen capture from the feeds a bit earlier and kept thinking he looked like an ant or a fly. He is SO not the man of MY dreams!

Today got off to a slow start in the house due to the houseguests once again being up for most of the night. But I feel that now I've gathered enough newsworthy things to make up an entry, so I'm giving it a shot.

Here are the events of Sunday so far in that Big Brother House of a POV Queen and Her Master Manipulator... and The Jealous Ones Who Live With Them:
  • Will told Janelle that her friends would probably advise her not to be friends with him because he plays people. She told him she likes him anyway and that she'll stick with him. He went on to tell her she's affected his game because he likes to play without emotion and he can't when she's in the game. [Editor's note: Mr. Silver Tongue Say The Right Thing At The Right Time strikes again.]
  • Janelle and Will slept together, but no hanky-panky ensued.
  • BB tried to wake everyone up around 12:30, the crack of afternoon.
  • Will told Erika that he feels sorry for Erika because she's going to be worried all day. Janelle told him she planned to tell her (her choice to save) today.
  • After taking on George's housecleaning role for the last few days, Erika declared to Mike that she was no longer going to clean for everyone.
  • Mike and Erika talked for some time while Janelle and Will stayed abed. Erika is pretty sure she'll be leaving and Mike told her he thinks that the final two will indeed be Janelle and Will. They went over who would vote for whom in the jury and think Janelle might win it all.
  • Mike told Erika it would be "awesome" if the finale is moved up a week because he doesn't want to be in a boring house with Janelle and Will for a week. [Editor's note: Be careful what you wish for, Boogie. That's $2,000 less for you!]
  • Erika thinks that Will's girlfriend has probably left him by now.
  • Mike went on about how good things always go for Will - he's handsome, smart, women like him, he seems like he can do no wrong... and he will win BB7 over himself (Mike).
  • Erika told Mike that Will would surely win over him with the jury votes.
  • Will pointed out the differences between Mike's showmance and his own to Janelle. He told Janelle that Mike thinks Erika is "kinda creeepy" while he honestly likes Janelle and they're friends. Janelle thinks that Mike is just getting tired of Erika.

There. That's it.

For now...

123 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Jackie -
I just tried to post and I lost it. Janelle and Will are still sleeping (I have the feeds on). It is 5:45 pm in CT.
Erika and Mike are out by the pool and Mike just asked her if she has ever done swimsuit modelling. Oy - she certianly wears it enough - she should get paid for it!!
Thanks for all you do and have a great holiday weekend!
Cyndi

Anonymous said...

I think it's funny that Will/Janie are talking about their relationship and what will happen outside the house while Mike/Erika are slammin on the other couple. Mike/Erika are two of the most bitter people I've ever seen and they were meant for eachother!! Isn't Will supposed to be Mike's best friend?? Last night I almost felt sorry for Erika, but at her age she should know so much better!! She really is a "Scrubika"!!

Anonymous said...

It's so funny because on the live feeds Mike and Erika are talking strategy on how Mike and Will could beat her in the 3 part HOH. Mike and Erika are such wimps. They are so intimidated by Janelle and are trying to strategize over how to make sure and beat her.

Anonymous said...

What orkmommy said! At this point I just want both of those to people out of the game I wish so bad that Mike wasn't HOH so it could be HIM going next!

Anonymous said...

Will is continuing to play the game. His "A" game is on now. He must convince Janelle that he really really really likes her...(pluuuueeese!) Otherwise she is on to him and she votes him out. Will needs Janelle to BELIEVE that they truly have something "special" or he is out! Game on!
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

Erika is badmouthing Janelle and saying that how "I've never seen anything that bad in my life in how bad she (Janie) has it for Will. I'm like oh my God." Boogie also trashing Janie and Will. Saying how Will will be nice to Janie but nothing more than that. That Janie will go back to Miami and Will to Erin. Now Erika is flat out overplaying how much Janelle told her about Janie's infatuation for Will. Ugh!! Throw that skank Erika out already! And Mike is such a whiney butt, too!! He says that the viewers don't see her as the girl next door but as a bad ass competitor. That it makes it even more impressive that Will cracked Janie. I love Erika talking so big like she's been such a playa when she was just a hanger on groupee!

Anonymous said...

Wake up already, Will and Janie. Mike and Scrubrika are booooring to watch!

Lucy said...

Erika told Boogie that Janell is easily manipulated by guys and she will be upset once she sees how Will has played her.

Hmmm....could say the say thing about Erika, just replace Boogie for Will. I guess "it takes one to know one."

Anonymous said...

I would like to take a poll please.

Who thinks that Will really likes Janie???

Anonymous said...

Yeah,Mike looks like a fly with those ocular diverse fly-glasses in the graphic. If you squint your eyes just right, his appearance takes on one of a vulture, complete with the long flesh eating beak. I better stop now, I'm getting to personal with his part in the grand scheme of life.
I would, if I could, do anything to divert or discourage a T.V. relationship. It would open up a door of spoof that would be egregious to a good relationship. But I'm sure the producers are encouraging them (Will & Janelle). Again, I would hope that character would be maintained in integrity between the two.

Anonymous said...

He is a great actor if he doesn't really have any feeling for her at all.

Anonymous said...

I totally think Will likes Janie, and he is putting on a show pretending to be playing her.....

Anonymous said...

I'm totally sucked into the soap opera that is WINNELLE and I' totally disgusted by the whiney/rant that is BOOGIKA... actually, I think I'm ready for this season to be over... How about some nice fresh STRANGERS for next year?? Robin in Manchester

Anonymous said...

Petals...that was funny..LOL

Lucy said...

anonymous @ 6:15 - I think Will likes having Janelle in the game and enjoys their "flirtmance," walks in the yard, card games, and story telling.

It seems at times he has genuine feelings for her and their body language indicates there is something there but I don't think he "likes" her in the way that Janelle "likes" him.

Personally, I think they would not be a couple outside the house - friends perhaps, but not a couple.

But then again the puppetmaster may have me fooled.

Anonymous said...

Here's my BB Fairie Tale...

Queen Janie evicts the Evil Witch Erika on Tuesday. She then wins the all important HOH and is able to rule the land.

Queen Janie realizes that Wizard Will hasn't been advising her with the Queen's best interests in mind. She kicks him to the curb and takes Boogie the Troll to the final 2.

The loyal subjects see fit to give the grand prize to their faithful Queen in a uninamous vote! Boogie the Troll is stunned because he thought he was the most popular troll in all the land!!! He slinks back to the swamp from which he came vowing vengance!!

(Ok...I know it's a bit much...what with the faithful subjects and all, but it is a Fairie Tale)

Anonymous said...

P.S. Hi Petals! Did you call your mom yet? :)

Anonymous said...

I think both Will and Janelle are playing each other. may the best "player" win.

Anonymous said...

Hahahaa - Jackie your awesome - wonderfully well written - I laughed aloud - turned around made sure nobody heard me, after reading-- Mike thinks Erika is "kinda creeepy" that's to much --long night ahead time for work and no play,lol Thank You Jackie, for great informative updates -
Sincerely,
Tom S

Anonymous said...

I really would LOVE to see Janie win POV and take Mike to the final! It would be a tough coupla days in the house for her with only him for company, but it would be worth it!

The only jury votes I can even remotely see him getting would be from Will and Scarika. With that said, I hope both of them would vote for the best player. Mike is definitly NOT the best player in that scenario. Even if Will votes for Janie, he can schmooze Mike and make him realize Janie was the best choice.

Can't wait to see Mike's face when Janie kicks his bootie! That will be fun night on TV for me. I may even tape it so I can watch it over and over and over and over and over!

Petals -- I'll leave you alone about your mom now. She was around this morning again...

Anonymous said...

petals....the wicked "witch" stole Toto no the bike! lol

Anonymous said...

ok....Petals adore you, love you, that was so funny I got the giggles...also Okrmommy your fairy tale was divine...you two are precious!
Now..for the pollster..I think will genuinely likes Janelle, but not in a romantic way...a flirty friends way...had those in my day...fun, not serious.
Erin bothers me cause she stiffed that guy for the money and will needs someone else..but not Janelle she is far toomuch woman for him...

Anonymous said...

Will is continuing to play the game. His "A" game is on now. He must convince Janelle that he really really really likes her...(pluuuueeese!) Otherwise she is on to him and she votes him out. Will needs Janelle to BELIEVE that they truly have something "special" or he is out! Game on! I do NOT believe for a second that really cares for anyone except himself!
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

Janie should be up by now with her ears burning as much as Erika keeps bashing her. Boy is she jealous of her! Seeing her in the pool in her bikini now lets me know what a skeleton with boob implants would look like.

Anonymous said...

It is amusing listening to Mike and Erika convince themselves that they could be Janelle in the final two.

I think Janelle has been a class act in this game; she really has not bashed anyone even though she has received quite the bashing herself....

Anonymous said...

I completely forgot the poll...

I think Will and Janelle are experiencing a classic case of "take what you can get". They genuinely like eachother in the house, but I don't think they'll be so close outside the house. I can't see Janie with a guy like Will. I see her more with a buff fireman, a weathered hockey player, a ripped construction worker, or a hot pro football player. (Can I have a moment please......)

Ok, all better now. Will is totally not her type and once the show ends, she'll realize that.

Anonymous said...

They (Will and Janie) are going to have a hot roll in the hay in when this is all over with. As far as being a real couple?? hmmmmmmmm don't know.

Anonymous said...

Orkmommy
You are hysterical! Funny...funny. You should write trashy romance novels " buff fireman, a weathered hockey player, a ripped construction worker, or a hot pro football player"
I'll take one of each please!!!lol
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

I saw a 45 min. clip at youtube the other day of Erika holding and looking longingly at Janelle's Tiara. The caption simple read: envy. So very true.

tbc

Anonymous said...

Newsflash...It looks like Will and Janelle are actually getting up. Get out!

Anonymous said...

Why do they always flash to clouds when they sing? I think the singing is funny/cute.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the compliments guys. I just don't know if I could face my little girl in 20 years when I tell her I supported her writing Harleqin novels ;)

Anon 6:42 -- "skeleton with boob implants" was too much! Maybe I'll try to fit that line in my first novel.

Mike looked to Erika with longing in his eyes. His boyhood fantasy was to find the perfect woman, a skeleton with boob implants and envy in her eyes. He said to himself "I will make her mine and have sex with her for all the internet world to see!" A plan began to formulate in his less than average mind....

(To be continued)

Anonymous said...

Poll question:
Yes, I do honestly believe Will has feelings for Janelle. I think he is fighting them and wants to pretend he doesn't because he doesn't want to hurt his girlfriend but you can tell he really cares for her. I don't think they would make it outside of the house as a couple though. They are cute to watch...
I think Mike knows it too and he is jealous!
Cyndi

Anonymous said...

Hi jackie & all you BB junkies.Do you think we'rew gonna need to go for Rehab after the final.LOL
Glad Jani won th POV,I,m sure she'll use it & Mike'll have to put up Will.Then Jani should evict Erika,If only because Erika is stronger in the HOH comp.
Hopefully Jani will win the HOH,& if she's smart she should get rid of Will.Mike is the least likely to get the jury votes.I think I'd worry if Will were with her at the end.
Of course if Will or Mike get HOH I'm sure Jani will be gone.
Guess we have to wait til Tues. night to see how that goes.
Do they still do the POv the last week?
Thanks Jackie,You're AWESOME.
Tess from Mass.

Anonymous said...

ooops, I just realized that the clip was 45 seconds. DUH!

tbc

Anonymous said...

Jackie, I love you and I love all the work and dedication you put into this blog and I pray you don't take this personally. I am not a fan of Mike by any means, however I was alittle offended for him from your comment re: the pic of him looking like an ant or a fly. No one can help the way they are born, ie their features...he's just trying to do the best w/ what he was delt with. Bless his heart!

Anonymous said...

God this is too funny: lol

1} Boogie a legend in "his own mind"

2} the "crack" of "afternoon"

where do you get this stuff ?!!!

Just write a book would ya?!
{I'm heading for the line now, To Purchase}so funny- so often.

Anonymous said...

i think janelle genuinely likes will and vice wersa for will. Will is trying to be a standup guy saying his "morals" won't let him be with Janelle while erin is still in the pic. If he knew erin waas out of the picture i bet those bed sharing nights might have been a lot different.
wether or not they would last outside the house, i don't know.
But being in that situation(the bb house) for so long can make you do things you wouldn't normally do, or maybe feel things you wouldn't normally feel. At least Will is being up front with Janelle about the Erin thing.
GO JANIE!!

Jackie S. said...

Anon @ 7:26 - My comment had more to do with those sunglasses than his actual personal looks. They made him look like he had huge huge eyes like an ant or a fly. He chose them!

Anon @ 7:28 - I'll be playing here all year. ;-)

Anonymous said...

will we know who they noimate before the show or not tonight

Anonymous said...

I think Will really likes Janelle but didn't expect to and doesn't want to. Girlfriend or not,he's protesting way too much--when someone repeatedly talks about how much they DON'T want someone, you can be sure that that person is who they want most of all. (I'm in my sixties, and I've never seen this fail.) Plus Will's body language is a dead giveaway.

As to a relationship outside the house, maybe Janelle's head will clear once BB is over. I hope she has far better sense than to get involved with Will.

Anonymous said...

is someone going to answer me!

Anonymous said...

Jackie,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your website - I'm addicted to your postings!!!
Jeannie

Jackie S. said...

Anon @ 7:45 0 I assume you're the Anon. who asked about tonight's show? (It's hard when you don't leave a sign-off name.)

I've stated more than a few times that tonight's show is taped. I expect we'll see Mike's HOH Comp, the POV Comp. The POV Ceremony will most likely be tomorrow night - that's where Janelle will announce her decision to save herself. The live eviction will be Tuesday.

Anonymous said...

What was up with this? Janelle and Will spent 12+ hours sleeping in the same bed, then they get up and each go into the store room separately and they immediately hug.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what the lockdown is for....

Anonymous said...

Why does Erika wear her sunglasses and her bathrobe all the time???

Anonymous said...

Okay...again...I guess people aren't hearing what I'm saying...or maybe I wasn't saying it well but either way, maybe I can make myself clearer...

What I mean by "scripted" is not that they have lines to memorize like a regular TV show. They have roles that they are asked to play. For example, the Will/Janelle showmance is manufactured by BB. They tell the HG's you are in the role of "the evil lying doctor," you are in the role of the "competitive buxom blonde," you are in the role of "the frat brother who is a womanizer" etc. And even before the live evictions, they offer incentives to vote a certain way. More $$$, prizes, trips, items, etc. if they vote a certain way. I'm not saying there is an exact "script" but it is "scripted" in that it's not all "drop people off in a house with cameras and see what they'll do on their own." They ARE influenced by producers to behave/vote a certain way. And as far as "live shows" or evictions go...the producers have long ago already stated who they'd like to see in the final two...just vote out someone else that doesn't matter. Will and Janelle are the most popular players...mark my words...it will be them in the final two...I KNOW.

And whether or not you believe me is up to you...but I DO have an inside view of BB. I married one of the show's producers.

Now do people understand what I'm saying about "scripted?"

pisgahscience said...

Will doesn't have feelings for Janelle. Will wants to win.

Janelle doesn't have feelings for Will. She's incapable of a stable relationship...anybody that dependent on a another person they've only known for a few weeks. Janelle can't comb her hair without Will telling her too.

The bottle line is...Woogie is still there.

GROSS...just looked up to the bedroom scene....

pisgahscience said...

Bottle line????

I guess that should be bottom line...

They are soooo gross together...

BOTH COUPLES!!!

Anonymous said...

ork, why are you grabbing your ear in your picture? just wondering since I see it everyday.

Anonymous said...

Yep Yep Yep -- I do believe that they actually like each other - I can see a lot of teasing like siblings. I do believe also that Janie is playing Will also for I agree that I cannot see her with him for she needs an outdoorsy type
not a nerdy.

pisgahscience said...

Everybody in the house really grosses me out!

Would it be so bad if NOBODY won?! Can we just all go home and pretend all stars ever happened?!

Gooooo....nobody.....

There is no "good winner"

pisgahscience said...

ERIKA can't even keep a promise to HERSELF!!!!

OMG!

Anonymous said...

Boogie just telling Will on the live feeds in a private conversation that he hopes Will knows how much this game means to him. And that "it means everything to me." But that Boogie won't be happy getting third place. That if it came down to that he told Will that he's won it before and that he'd need to step aside so Boogie can go against Janelle in the final 2. He told Will that he knows that either he or Will could beat Janelle but that he wants to be in the final 2. Will basically agreed to that but told him don't worry we'll make it to the end.

Anonymous said...

I was pushing my hair behind my ear. It'a a habit of mine...

Actually, it's a signal to James' girlfriend ;)

Anonymous said...

Jackie, please help.
Mike just shared a major concern with Will. I heard everything but didn't understand one thing: WHO WERE THEY TALKING ABOUT: WHICH WOMAN, ERIKA OR JANELLE? One piece missing from my puzzled head. Mike doesn't want what exactly to happen with which woman? ...Which would then leave him out third (I understand that part).

Anonymous said...

Orkmommy, to continue with your story...

The Boogie Man leans in and whispers to the Skeleton with Implants and says, "Hey, would you like to play with my Erector Set?" She smiles knowingly twisting her black bikini straps around her finger, "Sure, and after that we can play with my Easy Bake Oven."

to be continued...

Anonymous said...

OMG!!! Erika has a white bikini!! Where did that come from??

Anonymous said...

She borrowed it from Janelle.

Anonymous said...

Pluheeeze stop the story...it's hard enough to watch.

What was Boogie telling Will on the patio? He doesn't want to share with Janelle three ways and he doesn't want to be third place? So Janelle is expected to split but Woogie won't if Janelle comes in 3rd. Huh? Did anyone else get it?

Anonymous said...

I liked your story Orkmommy. Keep up the good work!!

Anonymous said...

I love it (not), Erika playing pool in a bikini....

Anonymous said...

Puh-Lease!!! It if looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....it must be a HOMANCE!!!!

Anonymous said...

Zowee -- Boy is Mike delusional, he actually thinks that the jury will make him the winner .. quote

Boogie: I think she would have a very hard time beating either one of us in the finals. I think if you go, it will be the awe of everybody, but I honestly think Marcellus would vote for you, based on his parting word. Dani and James are gamers, and they respect you a lot, and obviously me and Erika

Anonymous said...

I hope the evil prejudice bitch called Jani does not win this BB.
She gets drunk and her real side comes out. She has called Dani "a spade" and used other discriminating terms to refer to people. She acts so sweet but when she has a few drinks her true side comes out and it is very very ugly. She is not the girl everyone thinks she is and does not deserve to win.

I liked her last year but then again we never saw her true side as much as we have seen it this week. She is pure EVIL.

Anybody for the win at this point but this bitch.

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Anonymous said...

Doubtful that Will and Janelle will be friends after she views the shows and feeds. That is to be expected. However the friendship between Will and Boogie may not survive BB7 if Will doesn't "step aside" for Boogie as Boogie expects. Doubtful that Wily Will would give up a half mil for friendship. And truly, a good friend wouldn't expect you to.

Anonymous said...

The only bad thing about the show being this far into the season is that I can't stand watching two of the four people in the house. The producers only have so much they can show and unfortunately more than half of that has Mike Boogie in it. I'm so ready to NEVER see him again!

Jackie S. said...

Anon @ 8:57 - You're free not to like her, but I've watched her on live feeds for two seasons now. I never saw her display any sort of racial slurs, nor did I hear her ever call Danielle a "spade." Nor have I seen it in any reports elsewhere.

If you have some actual reference for this, please post it. Otherwise, I'll just go with you being outrageous without basis because you don't care for her in the game.

Anonymous said...

will this help? they were talking bout Janelle.....

Boogie: But what I DON"T WANT, is I don't want you with her in the Final 2. She, has been pushing for that. The math is so much more in our favor, I just don't want to finish 3rd. You've already won this, I just worry about not getting second.
Will: She's cool. Last night, she said, obviously I'm not keeping you. I just want everybody to be happy
Boogie: I want to do it, this means everything to me. But in the event it doesn't happen, I don't want to be third. No matter what, you and I are always going to be 50/50
Boogie: I"m afraid she is SO in love with you, that I may go 3rd.When you beat her, it's not fair if you take her.
Will: What would be the bonus?
Boogie: MAybe the winner takes half, the other gets the rest of the pool.
I swear, Will, we can both beat her.
Will: OK.

Anonymous said...

I have never liked Evil Dr. Will. I was rooting for Chicken George from the beginning. However watching Will play the game....He is Thee Master Manipulator. Unbelievable! He is trly someone you love to hate. I think Will is a man lacking all character and integrity. But I must give him this... he has outwit, outlasted and outplayed everyone (including sleezebag Boogie). He could sell ice cream to an eskimo! He unfortunately deserves to win BB7. I hope his money keeps him warm at night. The only women who will ever give him a chance in the future are scumbags like Erika. Good luck Dr. Evil and good riddance.
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

There is a song from the past...maybe the 1970s, 'If you Can't Be With the One you Love, Love the One You're With'. Keeps going through my head. Anybody else hear it? Mary

Anonymous said...

I agree Janelle is not the girl she is portraying. The act of the season has not been her game playing the audience playing. She acts so cute and sweet but is really a vicous wench. Don't care for her at all. I would hate to see this terrible girl win any money. She is not nice.

Anonymous said...

The only thing that could make this BB7 better is if Janelle is playing Dr. Will and boots his butt Tuesday night. Then Janelle (not Will) will be Thee Master Manipulator.
I am of course dreaming because I really don't think Janelle is that bright. I really hope she surprises me. Anyone else?
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

Do you know Janelle personally?

Anonymous said...

I'd LOVE to see Janelle kick out Will!

Anonymous said...

Over 11 minutes of the past show... commercials and then ends at 855P. Guess we got about 35 minutes of actual show!!!! Real disappointed that they did not show the sequester house!!!!

Anonymous said...

Jackie,

I agree w/your post re: Janelle.

Never, EVER have I seen her use a racial slur or even hint at having racist views. Rather, it's been exactly the OPPOSITE.

She and Marcie were closerthanthis before Will & Boogie started in with their mind games and lying about Marcie taking the prizes and then not fessing up to doing so. (Of course he did not need to admit to taking the loot--he didn't do it!)

In fairness to Janelle and to keep the specter of race from being inserted into the game at this point, please consider removing that post. No need to incite feelings that are not there with NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support such claims.

THANK YOU!

On a side note, Will just told Janelle that Mike and he were the ones who took the money, trips and prizes in that comp. She does not look or sound too pleased at his confessing this -- she's feeling bad for Marcie!

Maybe this will give her a hint to stop taking Will at face value & start to question what else he's lied to her about. There's still time for her to change her mind about who to keep in play!

Anonymous said...

I agree...I saw Will tell Janelle about the prizes also. I wonder if he showed his hand two early... thinking he has Janelle all locked up. Hope it backfires. Think Janelle...please think!
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

Jackie:

I do remember her saying something about Danielle when she was drunk with every one at the tub. They were talking about Danielle and janelle said something like a "spade is spade." Boogie, Will and Erika looked directly in the cameras and said something like we didn't say that we don't believe that way. She then said something else that I can't remember that was very nasty and prejudice and the other group of 3 again yelled BB we don't agree with that and didn't say that.

She did make these comments and she was very very drunk if I remember. It is true.

Anonymous said...

Jackie,

Is it just me or are the recaps at the top of the show getting longer?

jk in Los Angeles

Anonymous said...

I cant believe that I actually feel sorry for Erika, but after tonights show I kinda do. I don't like her, but Boog is really being horrible. She is insane to talk about having a baby with him??!!??!! Doesn't she see that when she tries to talk to him about thier future he backs off and gets wierd??
About Will really liking Janelle- I didn't think he did before, but when they did the gnome-pie in face HOH comp, did anyone see how when Boog won Will went over to Jani and was gently wiping her face off? I thought that was sweet. Now if that is an act, he really does deserve the money.

Anonymous said...

Wow - such harsh words going on in here!! What's going on?? I know not everyone on here is nice, I have dealt with it first hand and just never rebuked it because, well, what's the point... but come on guys, don't spread rumors about houseguests because you don't like them... That's not cool.
Besides did you see the show tonight? Did you hear what Mike was saying about Erika??? He actually has her believing he LOVES her!! I mean come on now, if we are going to bad mouth someone -at least let it be someone who deserves it!!!
Cyndi

Anonymous said...

ok....I am NOT a Janelle fan. But I jave always thought thta the saying "a spade is a spade" is about someone showing their true colors (character). I had know idea that was a racial slur. If so...I will never use it again. Please let me know?
Not Prejudiced in Florida

Anonymous said...

Did they have an indoor lockdown like was announced earlier, before the 8:00 show? They were all in the kitchen making food. I went in to watch the TV program and now I come back and they're outside (except for Boogie). What happened? meb

Anonymous said...

So Boogie is making sure that Will bows out if Janelle wins the next HOH? What a loser.

Jackie S. said...

Anon @ 9:26 - If using the expression "calling a spade a spade" is your basis for saying she's prejudiced, you're way off base and blowing things out of proportion.

I have seen Janelle cuss, I've heard her call others names behind their backs. She isn't an angel. But, after watching her on the feeds for two seasons, one thing I'd say she certainly isn't is a racist.

Sometimes when folks don't like someone on a show, any little thing said can all of a sudden take on a different meaning out of context.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, saying "a spade is a spade" isn't racist. She could have said that about anybody regardless of their race. The phrase actually goes back much further than anyone realizes. Here's a quote from The Phrase Finder:

This phrase goes back to Greek text at least as early as 300BC and doesn't have racist origins. John Knox introduced it into English when translating a Latin text by Erasmus. "I have learned to call wickedness by its own terms: A fig is a fig and a spade a spade...The "spade" referred to in the phrase, incidentally, was the digging implement, and not the black character on playing cards that underlies the racial epithet."

Anonymous said...

I actually feel sorry for Erika at this point. When she leaves this week and later sees all the footage of Boogie playing her, I have a feeling she'll end up needing years of therapy.

Anonymous said...

I thought Erika told Janelle that she would never date Mike outside the house? What is all this talk about "their future"? Is she still playing the game (I hope) or is she serious?

Anonymous said...

I don't think the term is appropriate to use especially referring to Danielle. It was very inappropriate and no matter what meaning Jani had using it, it could be construed very badly and could be taken as a racial slur.

Was this her real meaning or not? Who knows but it does cast doubt on some of her behavior to date and with drinking was she more "free" to say what she really feels. Interesting.

Anonymous said...

Jackie,
Has anyone heard about the former HGs in the sequester house? I read they were evicted due to hurricane John.
Also, we haven't seen James', CG, or Dani's arrivals and reactions from Marci and Howie?
I want to thank you for the great job that you do. My family has been wondering why I'm spending more time on the computer.
I have had to stifle my laughter at some of the theories presented here. I especially enjoyed orkmommy's new romance novel. I lied-told them I was doing "research".

Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

IN RESPONSE TO:
ok....I am NOT a Janelle fan. But I jave always thought thta the saying "a spade is a spade" is about someone showing their true colors (character). I had know idea that was a racial slur. If so...I will never use it again. Please let me know?
Not Prejudiced in Florida

9/03/2006 9:30 PM
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We had a similiar "discussion" (full blown fisticuffs in truth) over another expression from one chatter to another "Have not seen you in a coon's age" when someone entered chat that had not been in in some time.

Some people were highly offened crying "RACE HATER, PREJUDICE, etc. when there was NO SUCH INTENT made with that old-time saying very common in the South referring to RACOON's!

It just affirms the necessity of being very careful and giving the benefit of the doubt as to what someone really means before accusing them of any Racial bigotry!

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:43 -- It's not so much a romance novel as a horror novel :)

Anonymous said...

Those are NOT racial slurs - anyone who plays cards know what it all means - this was explained in regards to having a black heart - which is a person who is cold-hearted non-caring in other words back in the day were referred to a clock ticking not a real human heart - then you red hearts, purple hearts or for that matter to have a heart of gold... pick your cards how you live your life..this was a big saying prior the millennium - short of preaching.

Anonymous said...

From The Maven's Word of the Day:
Let's get two things straight here: first, the expression to call a spade a spade is thousands of years old and etymologically has nothing whatsoever to do with any racial sentiment. The second is that in spite of this, some people think it is a racial statement, and therefore it should be treated with some caution.

Dear Anon 9:30 PM,
You make a good point. So I looked up the origin of Call a spade a spade. After reading the complete origin, I have decided to err on the side of caution and to refrain fromusing the idiom.
Peace! And on with THE [TV] Show!!!
Love this blog!!!
PQ

PS I also agree with the suggestion that the comment accusing a HG of being racist should be considered for deletion.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry you're right. I have enjoyed your rough draft, so far.

Anonymous said...

9:19 and 9:27 Thank you both for your posts because I had been thinking the same thing! New footage was few and far between and the editing was very obvious tonight. In fact once Boogie was speaking and they were showing Will. It looked like a quickly thrown together show...but Sunday is a regular night. I watched it all...anyway. I am ready for it to end, but I want to see it all in the meantime. Sue

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much to everyone clearing up the true definition of the saying " spade ..."
My father used to say it when he would make us weed the garden with a "hoe" (sorry Erika...I did'nt mean anything by that) lol.

I love this blog...You guys rock!

Not Prejudiced in Florida

Anonymous said...

Just saw a commercial for the Steelers vs. Dolphins game on Thursday night on CBS. Those of you in those areas might want to check your local listings...

Anonymous said...

OK...I am confused. Really! I thought Erica & Boogie were dating even before they came into the house. So, he gives the impression this shomance is totally a ploy. I wouldn't think he could be saying the things he is if they had been a real dating couple. Whatchathink?

Anonymous said...

"Have not seen you in a coon's age"

I guess - I'm clueless - I have never heard of that - I guess it's how one is raised.

Anonymous said...

I think it is a true "Showmance" used for the players benefit of the game play. However me thinks poor, sad, desperate Erika believes that Booger the Scumbag really likes her. Poor girl!
BBLover in Cali

Anonymous said...

Everyone, on the "other blog" that Jackie gave us info. about yesterday in case she wasn't around when the POV winner was announced, I just checked it and Will is telling Janelle stories about bad things Mike did to some of her friends before they were evicted. He is saying it like he is just telling more of his stories, but, they all have similar themes... Mike did this to Howie (behind his back); Mike did this to Marcellis (behind his back). Janelle does not sound happy. My point is does this sound like someone who will "step aside" for the sake of his 'friendship'?

Also, it sounds like that was a promise Will made to Mike before coming in the house because Will already one. He is outrageous! He liked to Mike, he is lying to Janelle and anyone else who will listen to him for more than 5 seconds. Sounds like Dr. Will is laying the ground work for Janelle to give Mike the royal boot if she wins HOH. Either way, Will is planning on going to the final two and I don't think he cares to take Mike along for this ride.

Anonymous said...

The anti-Janelle movement ain't and won't grow fast!
What terrible things to say, when it's not true. Just mean! If it were true I maybe would understand.

Anonymous said...

History of "coon's age" expression:

I was not aware that raccoons have unusually long lives. Why does the phrase coon's age mean "once in a blue moon"? I understand that a blue moon is an actual occurrence, and there is a long period between blue moons.
A coon's age does indeed mean "a long time". Some etymologists claim that people mistakenly thought that raccoons lived for a very long time, and that is how the phrase arose. One source claims, instead, that the phrase is an alteration of a crow's age, which is supposedly a British phrase, but we have been able to find no evidence of that. We have to suppose that raccoons were thought to live long lives, for whatever reason (historians and animal behaviorists could probably come up with several reasons for this misconception). They do live up to 14 years, which, when compared with other forest animals, might seem a long time.
The phrase first turns up in the written record in 1843. The term coon as an aphetic form of raccoon dates from 1741. By 1832 it was being used as a term for a "frontier rustic person", by 1839 it was used to refer to members of the Whig party (the raccoon was their symbol), and by 1862 we find it used to refer to African Americans. In that sense it is now always considered offensive. However, if you are inclined not to use a coon's age because you think it refers to African Americans and not raccoons, look at the dates and think again.

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Anonymous said...

The anti-janelle movement is growing!

9/03/2006 8:59 PM
your a sicko to encourage that prooly you

pisgahscience said...

Gooooo Willllllll

I hope he takes all the money. He's the only one in the house that deserves it!

pisgahscience said...

The anti-janelle movement is growing!

9/03/2006 8:59 PM
your a sicko to encourage that prooly you

ANON 8:59...

You're right...it was not my intent to encourage. My post was meant to "makefun of it." In my head it sounded sarcastic, but on paper (screen) it sounded bad.

I have already deleted the post..

Thanks again for pointing it out....

My appologies...

However,
I still don't want Janelle to win!

Anonymous said...

I meant to say Will already "won". Sorry typing too quickly.

Anonymous said...

Well Well, tonight Janelle tells us she trust CT "a little".
Good for you girl.
You know when a man is playing you.
good to know, thank goodness.

It's a tough one for Janelle. To put Will out-- could put Will in a position to sweet talk the Jury to Vote for Mike to get the money. Man that is a scream to me, I had to laugh just thinking those words.

But we all know Will is good with the words.

To put Erika out-- puts my girl Janelle up against the two guys who are for the "two guys" all the way.

To put Boogie out. Well, just flat out unthinkable.

Janelle Janelle, you better win HOH girl, "if" there is another HOH.
Never know when BB will change the game.
Good Luck Janelle. You are the best player of all the Big Brothers. Will is an extremely close second; almost first "with you girl".

All the Voting Polls show you are the # 1 favorite with the Viewers Janelle.
{okay, maybe Janelle will read Jackies site after BB7 is over.}
I can hope...

Jackie S. said...

Anon @ 10:00 - Jokers Updates is much more than a blog. They have 'round the clock volunteers posting feeds minute by minute and an actual budget! ;-) It's more of a full-blown site than my own little dog-and-pony show. I'll be posting on those events when I put up my next entry a bit later tonight. I wanted to get the recap folks asked for out of the way first.

As for those who think I should delete the comment that falsely accused Janelle of being prejudiced - I seriously considered it. However, with the responses based on fact and reason, I'll let it stand. It's obviously that person's singular interpretation of Janelle based on his or her own perception or prejudices.

Anonymous said...

If anon at 9:12 wants to call Janelle a "vicious" wench she should learn how to spell. "Nice" is a much easier word to spell and Janelle has presented herself as a nice person on both the feeds and live show for two seasons. Nice, not perfect...and how many of us can claim to be that? I think the real point is that we don't "know" any of these people and therefore should resist the temptation to disparage them as people rather than comment on their game abilities or lack thereof.

Anonymous said...

I think Will wants to PRETEND he is playing Janie, but he has fallen for her big time. I think he might have quite the dilemma with Erin once he leaves the house.

I DO give will credit though. He has tried to be faithful to Erin and has not crossed any physical boundaries. He has tried his best to resist

pisgahscience said...

I don't think ANY of the houseguests that are left have been "NICE" at all! Janelle has been rude, mean, and just blackhearted....but THEY ALL HAVE.

She's not special. Geesh you Janelle fans think she's got some halo on...

Janelle shouldn't win.

Anonymous said...

With regard to Will...as the old saying goes..."How can you tell if he is lying." Answer..."if he is talking."

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't Janey be HAPPY he took the prizes? IT meant he went against Dani to try to save Janey that week? Janey would be happy he took stuff because it helped her win that contest, right?

Anonymous said...

Also, perhaps Will telling Janey the bad things mike has done is to help SAVE Mike. If she thinks Mike dissed all these people, she is more likely to keep him thinking she can beat him in the final 2.

I hope Will and Mike stick together. They are the only pair to stick it out and I'd be disappointed if they sold each other out at this point

Anonymous said...

please kick janelle to the curb,she is so cocky and nasty mouth.with mike being so nasty to erika,which i think she really cares for him.if will and mike have a restaraunt together,i wonder if all this will hurt there business on the out side.hope erika is one of the 2 at the end.from central fl :)

Anonymous said...

I know this isn't about Big Brother, but just heard the following and am really sad:

Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin Killed.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14663786/

kac

Jackie S. said...

kac - I was so tied up in BB that I hadn't heard that. Sad news indeed. I always got a kick out of Steve Irwin - he was always so positive and excited about the animals. Sigh.

Anonymous said...

fsTo all the people saying Janelle is mean, cold hearted etc..., this goes for all the players, THIS IS A GAME! It is about lies, deciet, and getting to the final 2 and becoming the winner. If these people were not playing the game this way, WE would not be addicted to the show. Blogging, watching live feeds etc... We hate but enjoy these charaters and we know it. I dont care who wins, would I like to see Janelle win, yeah! I couldnt stand her, but she is SMART and has played with sheer brilliance. I think we need to get a life!